Sugars/Intolerance? Help me Understand.
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arditarose wrote: »I don't really understand what I would need "treatment" for, for those who are saying I need to see a doctor. I don't have a deadly allergy or anything.
Ah. I'm a shy person. Now kind of regretting making this post.
Personally, I wish you'd keep posting here and specifically the reduction of sugar either by gram or day or something. You have a very well informed group helping out and for some people lurking the answers you find can help them too. Continued success. It is a joy to watch your progression.
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Reading through the posts it occured to me that when I was very thin, whenever we went out to dinner and I indulged myself I got a case of inflamation, joints, pain in on the oute thighs etc. and the longer I was eating over my regular caloric plan I got worse. The remedy, as you pointed out OP is to eat less. Basically food causes me inflamation, so I limit what I eat.
Are you in the healthy bmi range?0 -
I would make a gynecological appointment at your County Health Center. It will be free if your income is low/none. They can do blood work if you state your symptoms.0
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Reading through the posts it occured to me that when I was very thin, whenever we went out to dinner and I indulged myself I got a case of inflamation, joints, pain in on the oute thighs etc. and the longer I was eating over my regular caloric plan I got worse. The remedy, as you pointed out OP is to eat less. Basically food causes me inflamation, so I limit what I eat.
Are you in the healthy bmi range?
Yeah, I've been in a healthy range for awhile. I'm bulking actually...
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »arditarose wrote: »I don't really understand what I would need "treatment" for, for those who are saying I need to see a doctor. I don't have a deadly allergy or anything.
Ah. I'm a shy person. Now kind of regretting making this post.
Personally, I wish you'd keep posting here and specifically the reduction of sugar either by gram or day or something. You have a very well informed group helping out and for some people lurking the answers you find can help them too. Continued success. It is a joy to watch your progression.
Thank you for encouraging me. I just get shy!
Okay. I am going to address something @kkenseth mentioned that we have all kind of ignored.
Before I made this post I was aware that this was a symptom many bingers/anorexics would get after eating a lot of food. Now, I don't have an eating disorder. I might be anxious about food, and I may have tried a semi-agressive cut in Semptember (which ended up not being aggressive since I didn't lose much weight anyway)...but no eating disorder.
So at first, before the apple incident, I thought this was mainly from eating TOO much food. But now I'm just kind of pissed because I'm not cutting and then eating a huge cheat meal...I'm bulking on 2000 calories per day (yeah pathetic I know). On Saturday I eat 2500 calories and one meal is usually very high calorie/restaurant.
Anyway, the issue is also embarrassing because it definitely happens when I over do it. For example, it was very bad around Thanksgiving. I probably ate half a pecan pie in two days. And a slice or so of pumpkin pie. I couldn't stop. So yeah, a lot of pie...but still, most people would not experience these symptoms after that.
Now you guys have me a little nervous. I'm thinking about what to do. If it's an allergy I just have to learn to eat properly (which I'm already trying to do for my new size anyway). If it's something more serious....I don't know.
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Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.0
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Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.0 -
I have a wheat and corn intolerance. It causes me to develope autoimmune disorders. Try just eating rice as your only carb. And for sweets. I can't eat apples either or grapes and a few other fruit.0
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arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
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arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
sedentary v. anaerobic v. aerobic; starch v. honey v. sugar? Do you mean this? Are you looking for activity and the reaction pre-during-post?
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rankinsect wrote: »There is one risk, though - if you're diagnosed with something, and you want to purchase insurance to cover the treatment, then this becomes a pre-existing condition and insurance isn't required to cover it for the first year of your new policy, after which they have to cover it fully. If you get the insurance first (even if the condition started previously but you sought no medical advice) they will be paying from day 1.rankinsect wrote: »Essentially, while insurers can no longer disqualify or raise rates because of pre-existing conditions, if you don't have continuous health coverage (no more than 90 consecutive days uninsured) they may give you an 'exclusion period' of up to 12 months (18 if you enroll late) where any condition for which you received any medical advice, care, or diagnosis within the 6 months prior to your enrollment are not covered. After the exclusion period, insurance will cover it as normal. Essentially it's a way to ensure people don't just wait until they need insurance and then try to buy it.
This used to be the case, but it no longer true in the US (and never was true most other places). The ACA requires coverage of pre-existing conditions from day 1 (and it is currently an open enrollment period).
https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage/pre-existing-conditions/ (The only exceptions are grandfathered plans, which can't apply to someone who doesn't currently have insurance.)0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
sedentary v. anaerobic v. aerobic; starch v. honey v. sugar? Do you mean this? Are you looking for activity and the reaction pre-during-post?
I think so. I guess I'm just confused about carbs/sugar in general. Sugar in bread vs. sugar in fruit.0 -
I have the same thing when I go crazy with sugar. I just always assumed it was due to the bloating putting pressure on nerves and making my skin more sensitive, because I retail fluid BAD when I overdo on sugar or carbs.0
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If you're interested, why aren't you tracking it?arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
Hope you don't mind my saying that. I know you're shy.
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arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
They type of sugar (glucose, fructose, dextrose, lactose, maltose, etc...) will determine where it's being processed (intestines vs liver) and what it being accompanied by (aka fiber, etc) will determine the speed.
Here is an article that will discuss how sugars are digested and metabolized.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »
If you're interested, why aren't you tracking it?arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
Hope you don't mind my saying that. I know you're shy.
Because I just realized what the problem may be and though I don't track it daily I have looked and am for the most part under the goal suggested here daily.
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arditarose wrote: »I don't really understand what I would need "treatment" for, for those who are saying I need to see a doctor. I don't have a deadly allergy or anything.
Ah. I'm a shy person. Now kind of regretting making this post.
The problem with allergies is they get worse with continued exposure. If you are reacting to something and keep exposing yourself to it, it can become a deadly allergy.0 -
arditarose wrote: »I don't really understand what I would need "treatment" for, for those who are saying I need to see a doctor. I don't have a deadly allergy or anything.
Ah. I'm a shy person. Now kind of regretting making this post.
The problem with allergies is they get worse with continued exposure. If you are reacting to something and keep exposing yourself to it, it can become a deadly allergy.
This is getting serious.0 -
JanetYellen wrote: »I would make a gynecological appointment at your County Health Center. It will be free if your income is low/none. They can do blood work if you state your symptoms.
A GYN deals with woman's reproductive health, not food issues.0 -
arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
They type of sugar (glucose, fructose, dextrose, lactose, maltose, etc...) will determine where it's being processed (intestines vs liver) and what it being accompanied by (aka fiber, etc) will determine the speed.
Here is an article that will discuss how sugars are digested and metabolized.
It's not letting me use the link0 -
If it was an allergy you think I would have symptoms now matter how much I ate. Even just a small serving? I don't know. I appreciate your help guys but I am not one to go running to a doctor quickly, and some of you are freaking me out lol.0
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arditarose wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
They type of sugar (glucose, fructose, dextrose, lactose, maltose, etc...) will determine where it's being processed (intestines vs liver) and what it being accompanied by (aka fiber, etc) will determine the speed.
Here is an article that will discuss how sugars are digested and metabolized.
It's not letting me use the link
Start with this. I will try to get the other link working later and will repost if it works.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate_digestion0 -
arditarose wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Talk to a dr. Save some money and pay without insurance if there is no other way. It could be anything from an allergy to fibromyalgia. No one can diagnose it online.
Yeah, I wasn't really looking for a diagnoses online. Like I said, I wanted more information about how our body uses sugar from different sources.
Actually, when I had the problem while I was fat I was convinced it was fibromyalgia.
Why do you need to know what it does from different sources?
I'm interested.
They type of sugar (glucose, fructose, dextrose, lactose, maltose, etc...) will determine where it's being processed (intestines vs liver) and what it being accompanied by (aka fiber, etc) will determine the speed.
Here is an article that will discuss how sugars are digested and metabolized.
It's not letting me use the link
Start with this. I will try to get the other link working later and will repost if it works.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate_digestion
Thank you. I'm a little derp when it comes to science. Music major.0 -
arditarose wrote: »If it was an allergy you think I would have symptoms now matter how much I ate. Even just a small serving? I don't know. I appreciate your help guys but I am not one to go running to a doctor quickly, and some of you are freaking me out lol.
For my one allergy its quantity dependant.
I will note, its not the sugar but more likely specific foods.
I would be interested if you went wild on protein, fats and veggies if you would get a similar reaction.0 -
arditarose wrote: »If it was an allergy you think I would have symptoms now matter how much I ate. Even just a small serving? I don't know. I appreciate your help guys but I am not one to go running to a doctor quickly, and some of you are freaking me out lol.
For my one allergy its quantity dependant.
I will note, its not the sugar but more likely specific foods.
I would be interested if you went wild on protein, fats and veggies if you would get a similar reaction.
I already go wild on protein. Check my diary lol. Veggies are pretty high volume, maybe not in the last few weeks but usually a whole bag of lettuce for lunch and about 400g of zucchini/squash for dinner. My fats were low in the past and are actually up closer to .35-.4g per lb of body weight now and I feel much better.0 -
Here is a little less sciencey but good link
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate0 -
Here is a little less sciencey but good link
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
So what kind of sugar is in breads vs. fruit?0 -
arditarose wrote: »Here is a little less sciencey but good link
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
So what kind of sugar is in breads vs. fruit?
It depends on the bread. Glucose for sure but brands add a variety such as hfcs, dextrose, cellose, etc..0 -
Here is a little less sciencey but good link
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
This is more my speed, thanks.
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