1 stone to loose by Feb the 1st.
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Slimdownmb wrote: »My personal note: I Iost a lot of weight once in a very fast manner like you're attempting. It did not go well for me. It came back. After losing it again, more slowly with realistic goals, I've maintained for years. Good luck.
Sorry but what?
1 stone IS NOT a lot of weight to loose when your 20 stone - and 4 WEEKS... is not a that bad. - My main aim is just to give myself a boost, and i'm sorry but the majority of posts on this discussion has plummeted my mood - i was motivated, confident and extremely happy this morning. I totally regret my decision to write on here and try to obtain a few simple tips and tricks.
wasn't worth it
It was just a personal note. I'm sorry that you've taken other people's cautions as attacks. I'm sorry that your motivation has been affected by the well meaning words of others.
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bethclabburn wrote: »Technically I am right as they have the qualification. The all important piece of paper. In a job world it's qualifications first... That's what I was always told anyways.
What does it matter what I'm eating a day?
I hold a master's degree in communications. That doesn't mean that the 3 credit hours of history I took makes me more qualified to talk about the Civil War than my grandfather who has no degree but has been studying it extensively for over a decade.0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...
So we agree that you know better than your gp
So what you going to do now?
I'm going to do exactly what i said - Loose 1 stone in 4 weeks... nothing has changed.
I regret making this post and I've learnt a valuable lesson from it.
What is it you find so disheartening about people encouraging you to have more realistic goals that are attainable and sustainable in the long run? How will you feel when Feb 1 comes around if you haven't lost a stone?
Why are you so sure 1 stone in 4 weeks isnt realistic... 1 stone to you may be significant, when you have 10-12 stone to loose... its not that much.
You want to lose a pound every other day.
Can you, being absolutely honest with yourself, sustain eating 2000 calories under your requirements in a healthy way? Do you know how much you burn in a day and how little you would need to eat to achieve this?0 -
Slimbdownmp I think you are taking the earlier comments the wrong way. Think about where you want to be this time next year- do you want to be at the same weight (having lost a stone by feb but then having put it all back on due to binge eating after starving for jan) Or would you rather be two stone lighter having slowly lost a few pounds each month in a healthy sustainable way? Crash dieting is not healthy in the long term. Healthy eating and regular exercise should be your lifestyle goal instead of this low cal diet you seem to want.0
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bethclabburn wrote: »Technically I am right as they have the qualification. The all important piece of paper. In a job world it's qualifications first... That's what I was always told anyways.
What does it matter what I'm eating a day?
So, if I took the same nutrition class in college while obtaining a BA in English Lit, would you say I'm equally qualified?
I asked about how much you eat because I suspect you eat a dangerously low amount of calories, which is making you white knight the OP as a defense mechanism. Prove me wrong.0 -
Let me ask you a sincere question.
If you lost the stone in 2 months instead of one month - would you be disappointed, or would you be happy that you lost the weight?0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »Technically I am right as they have the qualification. The all important piece of paper. In a job world it's qualifications first... That's what I was always told anyways.
What does it matter what I'm eating a day?
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bethclabburn wrote: »Technically I am right as they have the qualification. The all important piece of paper. In a job world it's qualifications first... That's what I was always told anyways.
What does it matter what I'm eating a day?
I hold a master's degree in communications. That doesn't mean that the 3 credit hours of history I took makes me more qualified to talk about the Civil War than my grandfather who has no degree but has been studying it extensively for over a decade.
Great example, thanks.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »Technically I am right as they have the qualification. The all important piece of paper. In a job world it's qualifications first... That's what I was always told anyways.
What does it matter what I'm eating a day?
I hold a master's degree in communications. That doesn't mean that the 3 credit hours of history I took makes me more qualified to talk about the Civil War than my grandfather who has no degree but has been studying it extensively for over a decade.
I had a class on electrical circuits in my Computer Science studies. I think I'm gonna go tell electricians how to do their job because obviously I'm more qualified than them.0 -
Did you consider there is a reason why MFP doesn't have a 4 pound per week rate of loss?0
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Slimdownmb wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...
So we agree that you know better than your gp
So what you going to do now?
I'm going to do exactly what i said - Loose 1 stone in 4 weeks... nothing has changed.
I regret making this post and I've learnt a valuable lesson from it.
Well, you said 3 weeks before.
What happens if you don't?0 -
Ok you are all correct I apologise to you all. Obviously I didn't realise you are all highly qualified in nutrition...
When I return to the UK I'll be asking my GP about all this.
I've come to realise the forums are only helpful if it's what you believe in and any other way is wrong. You're all quite quick to judge and tell someone their goals are wrong.
This app is great for logging it's a shame I can't say the same for the 'support' from the community.0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »
Sorry but what?
1 stone IS NOT a lot of weight to loose when your 20 stone - and 4 WEEKS... is not a that bad. - My main aim is just to give myself a boost, and i'm sorry but the majority of posts on this discussion has plummeted my mood - i was motivated, confident and extremely happy this morning. I totally regret my decision to write on here and try to obtain a few simple tips and tricks.
wasn't worth it
Well, if you take one thing from your post, that should be that there are 'no simple tips and tricks' that will help you lose weight super fast, that are actually safe and not just water weight.
And someone already said upthread that 3 pounds per week while you are still in the obese category is probably okay. It's the jump to 4 that has everyone upset.
And the 2000 calories you thought someone was saying that you should eat per day? No, that is just showing a lack of understanding on your part. He was saying that 4 pounds per week requires a DEFICIT of 2000 calories per day from your maintenance calories. (For every pound you want to lose per week, it requires a deficit of 500 calories per day. 3500/7 x 4=2000)
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bethclabburn wrote: »Ok you are all correct I apologise to you all. Obviously I didn't realise you are all highly qualified in nutrition...
When I return to the UK I'll be asking my GP about all this.
I've come to realise the forums are only helpful if it's what you believe in and any other way is wrong. You're all quite quick to judge and tell someone their goals are wrong.
This app is great for logging it's a shame I can't say the same for the 'support' from the community.
Apology accepted! So, I missed where you answered the question about how many calories you consume.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »Ok you are all correct I apologise to you all. Obviously I didn't realise you are all highly qualified in nutrition...
When I return to the UK I'll be asking my GP about all this.
I've come to realise the forums are only helpful if it's what you believe in and any other way is wrong. You're all quite quick to judge and tell someone their goals are wrong.
This app is great for logging it's a shame I can't say the same for the 'support' from the community.
Rather than asking just your GP... how about ask your GP and then ask a nutritionist. See how in line they are. Some GPs are better than others, some more knowledgeable than others, and some keep up with the information instead of letting it die shortly after they were tested on it and passed.
I was phenomenal at advanced calculus in University, but I doubt I could do a simple derivation right now. I still claim my degree in math... but my ability is significantly reduced some 20 years later.0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »
Sorry but what?
1 stone IS NOT a lot of weight to loose when your 20 stone - and 4 WEEKS... is not a that bad. - My main aim is just to give myself a boost, and i'm sorry but the majority of posts on this discussion has plummeted my mood - i was motivated, confident and extremely happy this morning. I totally regret my decision to write on here and try to obtain a few simple tips and tricks.
wasn't worth it
Well, if you take one thing from your post, that should be that there are 'no simple tips and tricks' that will help you lose weight super fast, that are actually safe and not just water weight.
And someone already said upthread that 3 pounds per week while you are still in the obese category is probably okay. It's the jump to 4 that has everyone upset.
And the 2000 calories you thought someone was saying that you should eat per day? No, that is just showing a lack of understanding on your part. He was saying that 4 pounds per week requires a DEFICIT of 2000 calories per day from your maintenance calories. (For every pound you want to lose per week, it requires a deficit of 500 calories per day. 3500/7 x 4=2000)
edited to fix horribly messed up quoting from PP
This, and a quick TDEE estimate that'd probably be between TDEE-60 to 80%, which is normally quite inadvisable.
I would consider that support, but I guess some don't.0 -
At one point in my life I was a residential property manager, I knew a great deal about tenancy law as I had to work within its parameters every single day for years. I went to work for a company that had in house solicitor, highly qualified in law, better qualified than me you would say? Well guess what, he didn't specialise in residential tenancy laws and I had to correct some of his mistakes pertaining to the management of giving notices etc to our tenants. So I have no qualifications but was far more specialised in a field because I worked with it every day whereas the person with the law degree only had a broad overview and gladly took my advice (with his own further research to satisfy himself I knew my stuff).
So it's the same with a GP with a broad overview of medical qualifications vs someone who, in the pursuit of being as knowledgeable as possible has very specialist knowledge on diet and weight loss, can be the one more informed and better to take advice from. I have even gone to my GP with my own research and medication recommendations because she isn't specialised in mental illness and is open to patient insight and intelligent research by me. Not all doctors are created equal, it's why they do different things, psychiatrists, paediatricians, GPs etc.
One qualification and MD after a name doesn't make them all knowing. Just looking at the meal plan should show you that. It's nutritionally lacking and would result in a very poorly patient if by some miracle they did manage to comply for years on end.0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...
So we agree that you know better than your gp
So what you going to do now?
I'm going to do exactly what i said - Loose 1 stone in 4 weeks... nothing has changed.
I regret making this post and I've learnt a valuable lesson from it.
What is it you find so disheartening about people encouraging you to have more realistic goals that are attainable and sustainable in the long run? How will you feel when Feb 1 comes around if you haven't lost a stone?
Why are you so sure 1 stone in 4 weeks isnt realistic... 1 stone to you may be significant, when you have 10-12 stone to loose... its not that much.
In 12 weeks using a VLCD of ~800 cals these women lost about 10% of body weight, but weren't quite as heavy as 20 stone.
You could discuss a VLCD with your GP, they are a recognised short term intervention in the NHS.0 -
That's a good study
Average starting weigh 105kg (231lbs/ 16 stone 6)
Average Loss 10.5kg (23lbs)
Over 12 weeks ...average weekly weight loss = 1.9lbs
On a Medically supervised VLCD
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That's a good study
Average starting weigh 105kg (231lbs/ 16 stone 6)
Average Loss 10.5kg (23lbs)
Over 12 weeks ...average weekly weight loss = 1.9lbs
On a Medically supervised VLCD
Wow. My first 12 weeks on MFP (after I'd already lost my first 10, so none of the usual big water weight drop), I lost 30 lbs, no VLCD. Sure glad I didn't do any silly VLCD.0
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