1 stone to loose by Feb the 1st.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »So let me get this straight, all you people that probably don't have any qualifications (correct me if I'm wrong) are telling this girl to ignore her doctor?
Great advice folks.
No, all of these people who probably have more qualifications and experience specifically in nutrition and weightloss than a GP are advising her not to follow that plan.
See, there's a difference
How do they have more qualifications than a GP?
You think a knowledgeable GP wrote that diet plan for a carb sensitive person?
Are we reading the same diet plan? Just think I'd rather take my doctors advice.
Plus isn't that class more than you lot0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »My personal note: I Iost a lot of weight once in a very fast manner like you're attempting. It did not go well for me. It came back. After losing it again, more slowly with realistic goals, I've maintained for years. Good luck.
Sorry but what?
1 stone IS NOT a lot of weight to loose when your 20 stone - and 4 WEEKS... is not a that bad. - My main aim is just to give myself a boost, and i'm sorry but the majority of posts on this discussion has plummeted my mood - i was motivated, confident and extremely happy this morning. I totally regret my decision to write on here and try to obtain a few simple tips and tricks.
wasn't worth it
People are just trying to save you from mistakes they made and are offering tips to lose weight safely, slowly, and sustainably.
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Slimdownmb wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »I am actually following the calorie intake and foods from the plan my doctor gave me, her words were "do this for the rest of your life" - BAD ADVICE, even i know it isn't healthy to do this for large periods of time.
4 weeks is short term. - i wont be doing this for the rest of my life as its not sustainable. Obviously?
How many calories per day did your doctor tell you to eat?
She didnt - She wrote me a food plan -
Breakfast - all bran/cornflakes with milk, and fruit
Lunch - Tuna/Egg Salad
Dinner - Lean Meat salad or veg
snacks - raw veg.. or fruit
She wants me to do that everyday. You work out how many calories that is. - Its way lower than 1300 - I recon 900 at a push.
That breakfast alone can be 500+ depending on the type of cornflakes and fruit.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »So let me get this straight, all you people that probably don't have any qualifications (correct me if I'm wrong) are telling this girl to ignore her doctor?
Great advice folks.
No, all of these people who probably have more qualifications and experience specifically in nutrition and weightloss than a GP are advising her not to follow that plan.
See, there's a difference
How do they have more qualifications than a GP?
GPs have not much more knowledge of nutrition than high school students. It's barely present in their university curriculum.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »So let me get this straight, all you people that probably don't have any qualifications (correct me if I'm wrong) are telling this girl to ignore her doctor?
Great advice folks.
No, all of these people who probably have more qualifications and experience specifically in nutrition and weightloss than a GP are advising her not to follow that plan.
See, there's a difference
How do they have more qualifications than a GP?
You think a knowledgeable GP wrote that diet plan for a carb sensitive person?
Are we reading the same diet plan? Just think I'd rather take my doctors advice.
Plus isn't that class more than you lot
A single university class won't have much more content than what you can google teach yourself in a week.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »So let me get this straight, all you people that probably don't have any qualifications (correct me if I'm wrong) are telling this girl to ignore her doctor?
Great advice folks.
No, all of these people who probably have more qualifications and experience specifically in nutrition and weightloss than a GP are advising her not to follow that plan.
See, there's a difference
How do they have more qualifications than a GP?
You think a knowledgeable GP wrote that diet plan for a carb sensitive person?
Are we reading the same diet plan? Just think I'd rather take my doctors advice.
Plus isn't that class more than you lot
Honest answer?
I mean we are talking about this meal plan...right....eating it every day?
Breakfast - all bran/cornflakes with milk, and fruit
Lunch - Tuna/Egg Salad
Dinner - Lean Meat salad or veg
snacks - raw veg.. or fruit
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bethclabburn wrote: »RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »bethclabburn wrote: »So let me get this straight, all you people that probably don't have any qualifications (correct me if I'm wrong) are telling this girl to ignore her doctor?
Great advice folks.
No, all of these people who probably have more qualifications and experience specifically in nutrition and weightloss than a GP are advising her not to follow that plan.
See, there's a difference
How do they have more qualifications than a GP?
You think a knowledgeable GP wrote that diet plan for a carb sensitive person?
Are we reading the same diet plan? Just think I'd rather take my doctors advice.
Plus isn't that class more than you lot
If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »Sorry but what?
1 stone IS NOT a lot of weight to loose when your 20 stone - and 4 WEEKS... is not a that bad. - My main aim is just to give myself a boost, and i'm sorry but the majority of posts on this discussion has plummeted my mood - i was motivated, confident and extremely happy this morning. I totally regret my decision to write on here and try to obtain a few simple tips and tricks.
wasn't worth it
OP, 14 pounds is a lot to lose by 2/1, especially if you're not just starting out. You've already lost a lot of the water weight that leads to those massive drops n00bies get, and it only gets harder to drop the pounds as you lose more. You're looking for "a few simple tips and tricks" to lose weight in an unhealthy manner, which doesn't really fly with most of the crowd on MFP.0 -
I suggest you stick to a low carb diet for the remaining 3 weeks, maybe have 70 grams as your max. 1300 calories max is good enough (would say you could eat 1400) and you just need to exercise around 3/4 times per week. Consistency is key, I believe you can lose a stone by February so make sure you start now and stick to your diet. Best of luck towards your goal anyway, even if you don't hit the stone by then, you will have lost a good amount of weight.0
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If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...
So we agree that you know better than your gp
So what you going to do now?0 -
For the record, my GP tried to put ME on 1200. I need 3400 to maintain my weight and I am 175, 6' tall and 11% BF, down from 255, mind you. So yea, most GPs have no idea what they are talking about.0
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Wow I'm not arguing with you all.
I disagree completely.
Of course I would take the advice of a qualified doctor over people that google.
There's a difference between people who go and study for 4/5 years and people who go and look on Google and then think they are just as qualified.
I believe I am initialed to my own option here.
You'd all tell me my diet is too low and wrong etc. But I feel healthier, fitter, I've lost weight, my skin and hair is much better.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »Wow I'm not arguing with you all.
I disagree completely.
Of course I would take the advice of a qualified doctor over people that google.
There's a difference between people who go and study for 4/5 years and people who go and look on Google and then think they are just as qualified.
I believe I am initialed to my own option here.
You'd all tell me my diet is too low and wrong etc. But I feel healthier, fitter, I've lost weight, my skin and hair is much better.
I've studied for 4/5 years but get this. I don't know *kitten* about the things I didn't actually have during my studies. As do doctors.0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »Wow I'm not arguing with you all.
I disagree completely.
Of course I would take the advice of a qualified doctor over people that google.
There's a difference between people who go and study for 4/5 years and people who go and look on Google and then think they are just as qualified.
I believe I am initialed to my own option here.
You'd all tell me my diet is too low and wrong etc. But I feel healthier, fitter, I've lost weight, my skin and hair is much better.
So how many calories are you eating a day?0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...
So we agree that you know better than your gp
So what you going to do now?
I'm going to do exactly what i said - Loose 1 stone in 4 weeks... nothing has changed.
I regret making this post and I've learnt a valuable lesson from it.
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Slimdownmb wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »If my GP gave me the "diet" plan cited by the OP, I'd laugh. When they told me to do it for the rest of my life, I'd laugh all the way out the door on my way to find a new doctor.
I honestly was so shocked, i laughed and said to her, you cant be serious. She was totally serious. Sad really...
So we agree that you know better than your gp
So what you going to do now?
I'm going to do exactly what i said - Loose 1 stone in 4 weeks... nothing has changed.
I regret making this post and I've learnt a valuable lesson from it.
Fair enough
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bethclabburn wrote: »Wow I'm not arguing with you all.
I disagree completely.
Of course I would take the advice of a qualified doctor over people that google.
There's a difference between people who go and study for 4/5 years and people who go and look on Google and then think they are just as qualified.
I believe I am initialed to my own option here.
You'd all tell me my diet is too low and wrong etc. But I feel healthier, fitter, I've lost weight, my skin and hair is much better.
Are we going to cover what they study for that 4-5 years, or is it just that they went to school for 4-5 years?
Me, I'll take the advice of people who still study and renew their knowledge of fitness and nutrition as a part of their lifestyle, job, etc...rather than someone who took it as a semester class the 2nd year of 10 years worth of school (would be nice to get a phd in 4-5 years though, wouldn't it?), but I guess that's just me I guess....
I mean, we're still talking about this meal plan, right....that the OP was advised to eat everyday?
Breakfast - all bran/cornflakes with milk, and fruit
Lunch - Tuna/Egg Salad
Dinner - Lean Meat salad or veg
snacks - raw veg.. or fruit0 -
bethclabburn wrote: »Wow I'm not arguing with you all.
I disagree completely.
Of course I would take the advice of a qualified doctor over people that google.
There's a difference between people who go and study for 4/5 years and people who go and look on Google and then think they are just as qualified.
I believe I am initialed to my own option here.
You'd all tell me my diet is too low and wrong etc. But I feel healthier, fitter, I've lost weight, my skin and hair is much better.
Are we going to cover what they study for that 4-5 years, or is it just that they went to school for 4-5 years?
Me, I'll take the advice of people who still study and renew their knowledge of fitness and nutrition as a part of their lifestyle, job, etc...rather than someone who took it as a semester class the 2nd year of 10 years worth of school (would be nice to get a phd in 4-5 years though, wouldn't it?), but I guess that's just me I guess....
I mean, we're still talking about this meal plan, right....that the OP was advised to eat everyday?
Breakfast - all bran/cornflakes with milk, and fruit
Lunch - Tuna/Egg Salad
Dinner - Lean Meat salad or veg
snacks - raw veg.. or fruit
Methinks that would be a lot for Beth. I'm guessing this is hitting a sore spot because she eats a VLCD and doesn't like people advocating against them.0 -
Slimdownmb wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Slimdownmb wrote: »So dissapointed right now,
There are carbs in veg - obviously i ment unhealthy starchy processed carbs.
How about i don't bother at all. I wouldn't set myself this goal if i think think i could achieve it, keep it off and do it in a safe and enjoyable way.
I fail to see how a deficit of 2000 kcal every day is in any way enjoyable or safe.
So are you suggesting i eat 2000 calories every single day?
If so - why am i on mfp, since even they are suggesting 1580...
I'm more interested in the stuff i put in my body is clean and healthy, reducing carbs and sugar, increasing exercise and water intake. There is nothing wrong with it i've been doing this for the past 6 weeks - the only difference in what i want to do now is up my exercise and drop my calories slightly for 3 and half weeks.
Everyone here is so quick to criticize. All i was looking for was some hints and tips and everyones just made me feel *kitten* about it. So cheers guys thanks for the support.
No you don't get it.
To lose a pound one must have a calories deficit of 3500. so 3 pounds in a week would be 10500 calorie deficit and 4 pounds in a week would be 14.000 - or 2000 per day.
To get to a 2000 calorie deficit per day then you would have to eat/exercise such that your body was using 2000 cal more than you eat. Now that is easier when one is larger because your body just uses more fuel to survive. When I started in the mid 400s my maintenance level was over 3000 calories per day.
Exercise uses some calories, and is really important for maintaining muscle tone and mass, but the main way we lose weight is by eating less. Your calorie goal is pretty low and may be doable, but even at that you probably cannot exercise enough to generate a 2000 per day deficit. For example at my size walking at a brisk pace (4mph)burns something like 150 cal per mile.
No one is trying to discourage you. What I am reading is folks trying to make sure that your goals will work and that you will not get discouraged if you do not meet them.
I am 120 pounds into a 200 pound weight loss goal. I have been at this for 24 months and figure I have another 18-24 to go. I started out just trying to maintain, then ramped up to .5 pound per week loss, then 1 pond per week and now 1.5 pound per week loss calorie goal. I don't measure my food the best so I am hitting about 1 pound per week - which is fine for me.
I figure I didn't get fat overnight - it took 25 years - so I'm OK with taking some time to lose it as long as I can keep it off. I've done quick weight loss attempts before and always gained it all back and more when I went away from the methods that just were not sustainable over the long haul. What I am doing now is a complete re-thinking of what and how I eat and how I structure my day so that I move around more. this is not a change to make weight - it is a total change in the way I live. that way I can continue it.
Good luck and we are pulling for you.0
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