Don't be that Vegetarian...
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Don't be that kind of meat eater either. Insinuating that your food choices are superior to others is always uncool. That goes both ways.3
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Don't be that kind of meat eater either. Insinuating that your food choices are superior to others is always uncool. That goes both ways.
I wouldn't do that...but...humans have consumed meat, milk and eggs for millions of years...somebody came across you mumbling newly hypothesis, people who has running filtered water, vaccines, genetically modified veggies, genetically modified fruits, chlorinated water and yet they say they're naturalists, and that they know and I don't.
That my farm's poultry offends them and that some how..I gonna die sooner because of my feeding...
Half the vegans I cross paths with deceive and lie for imposing their point...I haven't seen this the way around with people in a party explaining why eating meat is for us, or saying that they're morally superior for having milk...2 -
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Don't be that kind of meat eater either. Insinuating that your food choices are superior to others is always uncool. That goes both ways.
Agreed. I think often with considerate people the issue won't even come up unless you know people well enough, or happen to eat together at times.peppermintpudgy wrote: »Most of my family is vegetarian, and none of them are "that" vegetarian. Seems like it's the carnivores who have chips on their shoulders and always want to start a discussion...
But then there was my best friend in high school, who blasted "Meat Is Murder" every time her parents grilled brats... She was the worst. I slipped a small morsel of chicken into her cheese sandwich one day. She ate it. I am not sorry.
Hold on with the labels now. I'm a carnivore and have never tricked someone into eating meat. Though I do have a vegan neighbor who is the type that deserves it. Name your price and I may be willing to employ you to do the dirty work!!
I actually have two neighbors that are vegan. One is well informed, considerate of other eating habits, and doesn't judge. The other is essentially a nutcase, judging people, protesting anything that comes along, trying to provoke, etc. He wasn't quite sure what to do when I asked him when they were going to free the captive animals they call pets. Of course in his mind that is different!2 -
I won't be cause imma keep eating meat on purpose.0
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I'm sorry, @robertw486, but my days of secret meat sabotage are long past! It was a special circumstance nearly 30 years ago. Judgmental loudmouthed hypocrites are awful, whatever their diets.0
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peppermintpudgy wrote: »I'm sorry, @robertw486, but my days of secret meat sabotage are long past! It was a special circumstance nearly 30 years ago. Judgmental loudmouthed hypocrites are awful, whatever their diets.
I couldn't do it anyway. And I completely agree about the hypocrites are awful thing. When they are at their worst, I force them to look in a mirror. Usually shuts them down then they have to face themselves.0 -
Yes, agreed! Almost as bad as passive-aggressive narcissists!0
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HypotheticallyFabulous wrote: »robertw486 wrote: »In my personal experience, most people that are the loud judgement types when it comes to ways of eating are more into it just for that reason. The people I know that do it for themselves rarely bring it up, and then only when it applies such as a food conversation or something.
Some people just like to judge other people. Sadly it applies to people in all walks of life, and many ways of eating. It seems to me the worst offenders often judge others in a much different way than they judge themselves. What a waste of energy IMO.
The hypocrisy in your post is outstanding. You waste most of your posts crying and moaning about how other people are online then you post that, priceless. You forgot to post how things were so much better back in your day. Don't change your ways now Robert.
Time to judge yourself.
You're much more transparent than you seem to think. And it's complete comedy to me that you take yourself so seriously. You keep fishing though, maybe someone else will bite. Having seen your willingness to apply judgement, it's no shock that a new user name might come into play.
Unlike some who choose to only cast judgement outward, I judge myself harder than anyone I would ever utter a word about. And I know that as fact. But keep fishing!0 -
What I put in my mouth is nobody's business.1
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This thread cracks me up. My response to a lot of this... on both sides:
Let's just agree that food is food and nourishment. People can choose to have different nourishment, but no one's method is "superior". That's why there are so many options.
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marcelo_templario wrote: »Vegans are the worst.marcelo_templario wrote: »Don't be that kind of meat eater either. Insinuating that your food choices are superior to others is always uncool. That goes both ways.
I wouldn't do that...but...humans have consumed meat, milk and eggs for millions of years...somebody came across you mumbling newly hypothesis, people who has running filtered water, vaccines, genetically modified veggies, genetically modified fruits, chlorinated water and yet they say they're naturalists, and that they know and I don't.
That my farm's poultry offends them and that some how..I gonna die sooner because of my feeding...
Half the vegans I cross paths with deceive and lie for imposing their point...I haven't seen this the way around with people in a party explaining why eating meat is for us, or saying that they're morally superior for having milk...
Deceit and lies, eh?
Oh, poultry farmer - nuff said.1 -
I agree that everyone should be able to eat as they see fit. As a carnivore though, I feel a bit threatened by all the “plant only” propaganda out in the community and the media. It’s at the point where now, some institutions are imposing meat free days in their cafeterias or their food offerings as if that’s somehow a good thing. Many people are made to feel guilty about eating meat and are being brainwashed into thinking that the planet would be better off if we were all vegetarian. You see and hear it all the time in the media and on social network sites. The jury is still out on that score. Plant based agriculture is not benign to the planet, it thins the topsoil and strips out nutrients from the soil whereas ruminant based agriculture can add to the soil and sequester carbon. I think that any members and researchers on food guidelines advisory panels ( like the WHO ) should disclose if they are vegan or vegetarian as a conflict of interest because they often have an ideological agenda that influences their decisions.1
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vivmom2014 wrote: »Okaaaay. I'm a pescatarian. I do what's right for me and keep my mouth shut around others. However, if the subject of factory farming arises, I'm not going to keep my mouth shut. I don't have qualms with people eating meat, I have BIG problems with industrial farming. Still, I don't want to eat meat even if it comes from a lovely little family farm.
This year I'm working on finding humane sources for dairy. And seafood that isn't overfished.
Another mostly pescetarian - my goal is meat a few times a year, on holidays. You might find these resources of interest:
https://www.ewg.org/research/labeldecoder/
https://www.ewg.org/research/ewgs-good-seafood-guide0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »We don't have to be perfect. But there is nothing wrong with us speaking for those who don't have a voice, those who are used for the pleasure of others.
I have no judgment for those who have accidentally eaten animal products.
What about those poor plants who don't have a voice? you know they are living things too...3 -
capnrus789 wrote: »If everyone were a vegetarian you'd have to walk around with a hatchet or machete, carving your way through the hordes of turkeys, chickens and cows wildly roaming the planet.
You have no idea. When the vegetarian uprising frees all the animals from their prisons, the cows will take vengeance on us all. Have you ever seen an angry herd of carnivorous cows?1 -
Holy necromancy Batman2
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People dont even realize Im vegetarian until we go out and eat in public or something. I used to be preachy but know that it does not spread the message by just spouting "YOU EAT MEAT, HOW COULD YOU...YOURE THE SPAWN OF SATAN!!!1!!1"....Instead.. people usually just ask why I dont eat meat and I can explain it rationally with facts without making them out to be a villian and vegetarians/vegans to be some super enlightened chosen people . I know why people do get passionate about it, the animal agriculture industry is depleting the Earth's resources, causes uneccessary suffering and that just makes me sad. It is cognitive dissonance, but all you can do is try understand someones point of view, educate and the maybe agree to disagree.3
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Typical christmas dinner:
me: minding my own food and munching away happily.
Uncle A: Why are you not eating the meat?
me: I am a vegetarian
Uncle a: Why?
me: I dislike the way we (humanity) treat our animals and i do not want to be part of that.
Uncle A+The whole table: Whole tirade about how meat eating is necessary and 500 other reasons for eating meat and that i am another rotten vegetarian that preaches about eating vegetarian.
me: just minding my own food
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What's REALLY fun to do to the loud jerky vegetarians, is to research and and have facts about 1- how migrant workers who pick vegetables and fruit are treated, 2- lots of 'vegan' or 'vegetarian' processed foods is just as bad for the environment as processed non-vegetarian foods and 3- locally sourced farm meat (I live pretty rural so can buy meat from small family farms) is more ego friendly than mass produced vegetarian options
Granted I NEVER bring it up first, only if they start harping on me for my food choice.3 -
Vegetarians are cool. Some vegans are overly fanatical and judgy imo.0
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Vegetarians and crossfitters.....thank god they tell you how healthy they are because you could never tell by looking at them.
Im kidding.......kind of7 -
“If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian”
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I'm a vegetarian who acknowledges that the vegetables I eat are grown in soil that contains animal waste and decay, bugs that you probably don't notice...so am I truly vegetarian? Hmmm. It's all just a cycle.
I also have no problem picking pepperoni or bacon (way harder) off pizza and don't care if I miss some.
I know wine processing uses bone or something and my gummy bears have bovine or porcine cartilage in them to make the gelatin, don't care.
Looking at all my bruises sometimes makes me wonder if a steak would do me good...but nah, I much prefer the taste of lentil soup and always my #1 - potatoes, they give me joy!2 -
I would say in reality i have no beef with vegetarians.....pun intended. . I would say the bigger problem they have is, about 80% of them dont do it right and arent getting the proper amount of nutrients. If you arent taking a boatload of supplements odds are you will suffer being unhealthy for your beliefs......3
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I would say in reality i have no beef with vegetarians.....pun intended. . I would say the bigger problem they have is, about 80% of them dont do it right and arent getting the proper amount of nutrients. If you arent taking a boatload of supplements odds are you will suffer being unhealthy for your beliefs......
Lemme see if I've got this right:
You're not a vegetarian. You probably don't really totally approve of vegetarians, given the "jokes".
But you know how most of us do vegetarian-ing (around 80% of us), and are ready to lecture us on our nutritional requirements.
All righty, then.
There's a boatload of something here, but I don't think it's supplements.3 -
I would say in reality i have no beef with vegetarians.....pun intended. . I would say the bigger problem they have is, about 80% of them dont do it right and arent getting the proper amount of nutrients. If you arent taking a boatload of supplements odds are you will suffer being unhealthy for your beliefs......
Lemme see if I've got this right:
You're not a vegetarian. You probably don't really totally approve of vegetarians, given the "jokes".
But you know how most of us do vegetarian-ing (around 80% of us), and are ready to lecture us on our nutritional requirements.
All righty, then.
There's a boatload of something here, but I don't think it's supplements.
Well it is kind of my job to asisst people in their fitness and health goals. It has nothing to do with how or what i eat. I support every client in what they are most comfortable whether its paleo or Vegetarianism. However, being a vegetarian is quite a bit harder to do properly than most people think and it has nothing to do with my opinion or any difference of beliefs. I would venture to wager being a trainer in the greater NY area i probably encounter and train more vegans and vegetarians than most. Thers sre some amazing healthy people that are vegan, but from what i have seen, and what i have studied, very few get it right at first, and it takes a lot of effort to make it work long term without potential health issues after a couple of years.
I joke about Vegans, because im not uptight, not because i dislike them. Lighten up Francis5
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