Carbs..
pierson_lauren
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You heard me.. carbs. They pasta, the bread, all that. How do y I u get over it. It's been about a week and a half where I haven't had any of it and I feel like I'm dieing. I know that sounds dramatic and I really am doing well with food and staying within my calorie diet, I just feel unhappy.. sad that I supposition have to just give up my pasta and bread..
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Why do you have to give it up?0
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Everyone says it's like a crazy horrible thing. Like the worst to put in your body. The only positive thing I've heard is pasta and bread is good when you have lost all your weight and yiu are maintaining and watching it.0
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pierson_lauren wrote: »Everyone says it's like a crazy horrible thing. Like the worst to put in your body. The only positive thing I've heard is pasta and bread is good when you have lost all your weight and yiu are maintaining and watching it.
I would suggest not taking nutrition advice from anyone that says such nonsense. Are you diabetic?0 -
Unless you have a medical condition that requires you to eat a low carbohydrate diet, you don't have to limit them. Some people choose to limit them because they find it easier to feel full on a diet that is lower than carbohydrates. But if it makes you unhappy to avoid them, why not include some in your diet?0
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No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..0
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Some people are healthier without breads and pastas, and for others it makes no noticeable difference. People give up those foods for health reasons and not typically to lose weight, unless you are eating way too much of it and that is your way of cutting calories.
Are you cutting other carbs too, such as fruits, grains, and sugars ?
Some people experience a withdrawal when some (often problem) foods are removed from their diets. If that is your case it usually passes within 2 weeks. For example, up to about 30% of celiacs, and those with Non-celiac Gluten Sensitivity, experience withdrawal when they stop eating gluten. I did, and I know it wasn't from lowered carbs because there was no change in carb intake; in fact it might have gone up.
Feeling poorly (fatigue, headache, ill) can be caused by an electrolyte imbalance from water weight lost when carbs were cut. 3000-5000mg of sodium per day is often recommended for a low carb diet. Try salting more food, drinking broth/bouilon, or even adding a teaspoon of salt to some water every day. It sounds extreme but it really does help.
If sodium gets too low, potassium and magnesium will get low too which may lead to muscle cramps. Many low carbers find supplementing K and Mg. along with Na, is helpful.0 -
I eat pasta all the time. Other carbs too -- I usually make my meals, especially dinner, a balance between carbs, protein, and fat, and so intentionally include some kind of grain/starch as part of dinner (pasta, potato, sweet potato, corn, etc.), as well as vegetables and protein. Last night I had some Japanese noodles. Lost lots of weight eating this way, and have been maintaining it doing the same.
The thing with a lot of these foods -- it was true for me with pasta -- is that people may have proportion distortion. If you measure out a serving of pasta and eat it with lots of vegetables and some lean meat you have a very healthy meal that's not particularly high cal, and for me quite filling. Back in the day I'd eyeball what a proper amount would be and of course it always makes lots more than you think, and I'd eat more than I really wanted because it was there and tasty. (And some restaurants will give you a weird idea of portion size too, at least in the US.) I'd also overdo higher cal things that you can add, like cheese or olive oil. My pasta meals now are every bit as tasty and satisfying as before, though.0 -
This is where my mom would say, "If 'everyone' was jumping off a bridge, would you follow them?"
Bread, pasta, etc are not evil. All things in moderation. Stick with appropriate serving sizes, switch to the whole grain versions, and serve with protein. No problem.
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I am high carb. I eat oatmeal, barley, quinoa, fiber cereal, sweet potatoes, brown rice, wheat pasta.
(not lately though due to family drama).
Don't be so hard on yourself. Just go for healthier carbs.0 -
To lose fat all you need to do is eat less calories than you burn in a day. Some carb heavy foods can be less satiating than protein or fat rich foods, but that doesn't mean you have to give them up. Look for pasta and bread that has a decent amount of fiber. Fiber slows digestion and helps keep you full longer. Also, it's not a bad idea to cut back, but that's not the same as cutting it out totally. Try using a higher fiber pasta and only eating 1/2 or 1/3 as much usual. Less noodles and more sauce isn't a bad thing.0
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pierson_lauren wrote: »Everyone says it's like a crazy horrible thing. Like the worst to put in your body. The only positive thing I've heard is pasta and bread is good when you have lost all your weight and yiu are maintaining and watching it.
If this were true Italians would be the most obese, least healthy people on the planet. They're not.
You don't need to give up carbs to lose weight, you need to give up big portion sizes. Low carb is an easy way out sometimes. If you severely restrict one macro, then you may not need to think about portions at all. The problem with the easy way out, is you learn nothing you need for maintenance. Will you be eating low carb forever? Maybe just 2 or 3 low carb days a week for the rest of your life?
Weighing and measuring regular food (all types of food) seems tedious. But you learn from it (and you get used to it).
I'm not trying to be mean. This has been my experience; I've lost weight and regained it. Find some lifestyle changes not temporary ones.0 -
When you say burn as many calories as I eat.. if I am on a 1200 calories diet.. I need to burn 1200 a day?0
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pierson_lauren wrote: »When you say burn as many calories as I eat.. if I am on a 1200 calories diet.. I need to burn 1200 a day?
It depends on how much you have to lose, your age, weight, height. Most Ppl burn that much or more just by being alive. You should check your TDEE on an online calculator and go from there. I know it seems like a great idea to lose all your weight super quick but, typically the slower you lose the more likely you will keep it off. I eat carbs throughout my day. I have lost 34 lbs doing that. A majority of Ppl though good intentions have no idea about nutrition or losing weight properly. Do your own research and decide what works for you and your lifestyle.
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I literally eat english muffins every morning, pasta every day for lunch, and definitely some sort of carb everyday for dinner, along with carb-y snacks... Just pay attention to serving sizes and also read the nutrition labels, not all carbs are created equally - look for ones with high fiber especially, and if you're trying to lose weight (which you mentioned) look at calories and serving size, and make sure you weigh your food - it makes all the difference in the world.0
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JanetYellen wrote: »I am high carb. I eat oatmeal, barley, quinoa, fiber cereal, sweet potatoes, brown rice, wheat pasta.
(not lately though due to family drama).
Don't be so hard on yourself. Just go for healthier carbs.
I second the healthier carb idea. Instead of highly processed white bread, go for the whole wheat, or get your crabs from steel cut oats, etc. Carbs aren't bad just misunderstood.
If you want to limit your carbs don't cut them completely. Still get some quality carbs from some source.0 -
thisNeed2Exerc1se wrote: »Why do you have to give it up?Need2Exerc1se wrote: »pierson_lauren wrote: »Everyone says it's like a crazy horrible thing. Like the worst to put in your body. The only positive thing I've heard is pasta and bread is good when you have lost all your weight and yiu are maintaining and watching it.
I would suggest not taking nutrition advice from anyone that says such nonsense. Are you diabetic?
This
And you need to read the stickies cos you're doing it wrong
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pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
You need to educate yourself. Your body needs carbs to be healthy. Your brain needs carbs to be healthy! Losing weight is about moderation and eating in a way that is sustainable FOR LIFE. You can't and shouldn't completely eliminate any foods or food groups. Do you track your macros on MFP? Mine are 40% carbs every day.0 -
pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
These people are wrong. There is no need to deprive yourself of the things you enjoy. I am nearly half way through a 90+lb weight loss. I am regularly (almost daily) eating ice cream or having a beer. I enjoy pastas and breads. These things are fine, you need to control the serving size only. You will find as you go along some things are more filling than others. So you need to keep playing around with it until you figure what works for you. A nice pasta with meat (if you eat meat) and veggie sauce and some cheese is very satisfying and can be well balanced nutritionally. If you plan on having pasta and bread once you have lost the weight, doesn't it make sense to learn to fit it into your nutritional plan now? I so this with treat foods and restaurants, because I want to enjoy these 5 hints throughout my life, plus a don't feel like I'm on a diet.
Read the stickied threads at the top of the getting started and general weight loss boards titled "Most Helpful Posts". Particularly the ones on logging accurately, this is where many people make mistakes.
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pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
You need to educate yourself. Your body needs carbs to be healthy. Your brain needs carbs to be healthy! Losing weight is about moderation and eating in a way that is sustainable FOR LIFE. You can't and shouldn't completely eliminate any foods or food groups. Do you track your macros on MFP? Mine are 40% carbs every day.
^^^This! Track your macros with MFP and weigh and log everything... don't search the databases either because people are crazy... scan it or manually put it in, if you can. And then just live a well-balanced life with moderate sized portions.0 -
pierson_lauren wrote: »When you say burn as many calories as I eat.. if I am on a 1200 calories diet.. I need to burn 1200 a day?
To lose fat you need to burn more than 1200. But that doesn't mean burn 1200 through "exercise". You would likely burn close to 1200 if all you did was sit all day. Breathing, pumping blood through your body, digestion, etc. all burn calories. Movement burns more. If you are at 1200 you should eat more if you exercise.0 -
I love carbs. And I can easily overeat on them, so I have a few rules:
-I will eat a bagel, but I'll scoop out the sides as much as I can. Bagels can be the equivalent of four slices of white bread depending on the size
-If I have bread, it will be made from whole grains. I will either bake it myself or read nutrition labels. Ezekiel bread is pretty good and relatively healthy
-if I have pizza, I'll make it rather than buy it so Iwill make a whole wheat crust, and it's cheaper to make it than to buy.
I also try to balance out my carbs with fat and protein to help aid in satiety.
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pierson_lauren wrote: »When you say burn as many calories as I eat.. if I am on a 1200 calories diet.. I need to burn 1200 a day?
NO! Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) at a site like scoobyworkshop.com or iifym.com. Subtract 10-20% from your TDEE and that would be your daily calorie goal. Eat that consistently and you will lose weight. Carbs are fine, unless they are not letting you hit your calorie goal. In that case, substitute something that does help you hit your goal.
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pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
You need to educate yourself. Your body needs carbs to be healthy. Your brain needs carbs to be healthy! Losing weight is about moderation and eating in a way that is sustainable FOR LIFE. You can't and shouldn't completely eliminate any foods or food groups. Do you track your macros on MFP? Mine are 40% carbs every day.
I agree with educating yourself but the rest is not entirely correct. Your body and brain do not require you to eat carbs. The brain, and a few other organs require some glucose to function. In most people, glucose is made from carbohydrate consumption but glucose can also be created from protein. It can be healthy to eat low carb and have the body create the glucose it needs so the blood does not get elevated levels of blood glucose, especially in those with health problems related to insulin resistance.
Often restricting foods is quite healthy. Very few people eliminate a food group unless there is a health reason for it (like dairy) in which case that is usually a healthier way for that person to eat. The exception to this would be most vegetarians and vegans who eliminate a food group for reasons that are not always about health.
My carbs are about 5% everyday, and it's really helped my health and made losing weight easy. Lower carb can work very well for some people.1 -
A. Barring a medical condition, -and by medical condition, I mean something actually diagnosed by an MD, not oneself or naturopath - there is no need to forgo carbs beyond personal preference.
B. Pastas, breads, grains, particularly whole ones are a decent source of certain vitamins and minerals such as magnesium and thiamin - magnesium in whole grains in particular might be responsible for whole grain consumption being associated with better insulin sensitivity and lower risk of diabetes. Certain fibrous grains are associated with lowered cholesterol and lowered risk of heart disease. Hardly bad for people.
C. If are particularly set on not having them, if it is your preference or the type of relationship you feel you need you have to have with food, then have you looked at substitues? Quest makes a low carb pasta. Isolator fitness makes one too.
http://www.questnutrition.com/quest-pasta/
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pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
You need to educate yourself. Your body needs carbs to be healthy. Your brain needs carbs to be healthy! Losing weight is about moderation and eating in a way that is sustainable FOR LIFE. You can't and shouldn't completely eliminate any foods or food groups. Do you track your macros on MFP? Mine are 40% carbs every day.
I agree with educating yourself but the rest is not entirely correct. Your body and brain do not require you to eat carbs. The brain, and a few other organs require some glucose to function. In most people, glucose is made from carbohydrate consumption but glucose can also be created from protein. It can be healthy to eat low carb and have the body create the glucose it needs so the blood does not get elevated levels of blood glucose, especially in those with health problems related to insulin resistance.
Often restricting foods is quite healthy. Very few people eliminate a food group unless there is a health reason for it (like dairy) in which case that is usually a healthier way for that person to eat. The exception to this would be most vegetarians and vegans who eliminate a food group for reasons that are not always about health.
My carbs are about 5% everyday, and it's really helped my health and made losing weight easy. Lower carb can work very well for some people.
I'm going to point out something though. Complex carbohydrates are important in brain development and the release of seratonin, that feel good chemical that staves off depression and feeling in the dumpsand also studies have proven that eliminating them from a diet can been linked to alzheimers and dementia. There are carbs in almost everything. Portioning out your carbs and opting to reduce the amount you eat while staying within a calorie goal is helpful to some. Please please please make sure your source is reputable. Ask a nutritionist or your doctor or nurse practitioner before you believe something and follow their advice. While there is tonnes of great advice out there, be sure its safe and right for you. Everything in moderation. You shouldnt have to give up on something you enjoy unless its for a medical reason. That can lead to binging when you give into your cravings. Good luck on your journey.
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I've read the opposite.... and experienced the opposite.wykkedtruth wrote: »pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
You need to educate yourself. Your body needs carbs to be healthy. Your brain needs carbs to be healthy! Losing weight is about moderation and eating in a way that is sustainable FOR LIFE. You can't and shouldn't completely eliminate any foods or food groups. Do you track your macros on MFP? Mine are 40% carbs every day.
I agree with educating yourself but the rest is not entirely correct. Your body and brain do not require you to eat carbs. The brain, and a few other organs require some glucose to function. In most people, glucose is made from carbohydrate consumption but glucose can also be created from protein. It can be healthy to eat low carb and have the body create the glucose it needs so the blood does not get elevated levels of blood glucose, especially in those with health problems related to insulin resistance.
Often restricting foods is quite healthy. Very few people eliminate a food group unless there is a health reason for it (like dairy) in which case that is usually a healthier way for that person to eat. The exception to this would be most vegetarians and vegans who eliminate a food group for reasons that are not always about health.
My carbs are about 5% everyday, and it's really helped my health and made losing weight easy. Lower carb can work very well for some people.
I'm going to point out something though. Complex carbohydrates are important in brain development and the release of seratonin, that feel good chemical that staves off depression and feeling in the dumpsand also studies have proven that eliminating them from a diet can been linked to alzheimers and dementia. There are carbs in almost everything. Portioning out your carbs and opting to reduce the amount you eat while staying within a calorie goal is helpful to some. Please please please make sure your source is reputable. Ask a nutritionist or your doctor or nurse practitioner before you believe something and follow their advice. While there is tonnes of great advice out there, be sure its safe and right for you. Everything in moderation. You shouldnt have to give up on something you enjoy unless its for a medical reason. That can lead to binging when you give into your cravings. Good luck on your journey.
What you are saying could be true for others.0 -
pierson_lauren wrote: »Everyone says it's like a crazy horrible thing. Like the worst to put in your body. The only positive thing I've heard is pasta and bread is good when you have lost all your weight and yiu are maintaining and watching it.
I didn't give up carbs, and lost weight successfully. Personally, I believe in losing in the same way that you will want to maintain. Break the yoyo cycle, and learn habits that will sustain you.0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »pierson_lauren wrote: »Everyone says it's like a crazy horrible thing. Like the worst to put in your body. The only positive thing I've heard is pasta and bread is good when you have lost all your weight and yiu are maintaining and watching it.
I didn't give up carbs, and lost weight successfully. Personally, I believe in losing in the same way that you will want to maintain. Break the yoyo cycle, and learn habits that will sustain you.
Completely agree withe the bolded.0 -
I've read the opposite.... and experienced the opposite.wykkedtruth wrote: »pierson_lauren wrote: »No I am not diabetic. And I know I know but when you have everyone around you say no no no eat veggies and hard boiled eggs and all that which is fine I like those.. idk I just want to lose weight so bad I guess I listen to the majority..
You need to educate yourself. Your body needs carbs to be healthy. Your brain needs carbs to be healthy! Losing weight is about moderation and eating in a way that is sustainable FOR LIFE. You can't and shouldn't completely eliminate any foods or food groups. Do you track your macros on MFP? Mine are 40% carbs every day.
I agree with educating yourself but the rest is not entirely correct. Your body and brain do not require you to eat carbs. The brain, and a few other organs require some glucose to function. In most people, glucose is made from carbohydrate consumption but glucose can also be created from protein. It can be healthy to eat low carb and have the body create the glucose it needs so the blood does not get elevated levels of blood glucose, especially in those with health problems related to insulin resistance.
Often restricting foods is quite healthy. Very few people eliminate a food group unless there is a health reason for it (like dairy) in which case that is usually a healthier way for that person to eat. The exception to this would be most vegetarians and vegans who eliminate a food group for reasons that are not always about health.
My carbs are about 5% everyday, and it's really helped my health and made losing weight easy. Lower carb can work very well for some people.
I'm going to point out something though. Complex carbohydrates are important in brain development and the release of seratonin, that feel good chemical that staves off depression and feeling in the dumpsand also studies have proven that eliminating them from a diet can been linked to alzheimers and dementia. There are carbs in almost everything. Portioning out your carbs and opting to reduce the amount you eat while staying within a calorie goal is helpful to some. Please please please make sure your source is reputable. Ask a nutritionist or your doctor or nurse practitioner before you believe something and follow their advice. While there is tonnes of great advice out there, be sure its safe and right for you. Everything in moderation. You shouldnt have to give up on something you enjoy unless its for a medical reason. That can lead to binging when you give into your cravings. Good luck on your journey.
What you are saying could be true for others.
Nothing to be done then but for you to both post your sources.0
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