NO carbs and fat in a diet.

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  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    True, unless keto adapted, at which point most of the brain can utilize ketones just like any other cell in the body, but it still requires glucose for certain area where the neurons are too small to accomodate mitocondria and thus can only receive ATP from glycolysis. The body will manufacture it from protein as required so the keto advocates, such as Gale, will claim that it's not essential since you can produce it from protein. Technically this is correct but there is also not real reason for almost anyone to eat very low carb either (my understanding is that Gale himself maybe one of those exception), but I'm all for personal choice and if that works for people then more power to them.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    Your body can use your glycogen stores and make them out of other stuff you eat.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    True, unless keto adapted, at which point most of the brain can utilize ketones just like any other cell in the body, but it still requires glucose for certain area where the neurons are too small to accomodate mitocondria and thus can only receive ATP from glycolysis. The body will manufacture it from protein as required so the keto advocates, such as Gale, will claim that it's not essential since you can produce it from protein. Technically this is correct but there is also not real reason for almost anyone to eat very low carb either (my understanding is that Gale himself maybe one of those exception), but I'm all for personal choice and if that works for people then more power to them.

    How many threads is this argument going on concurrently?! (And same user arguing the wrong point.)
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    True, unless keto adapted, at which point most of the brain can utilize ketones just like any other cell in the body, but it still requires glucose for certain area where the neurons are too small to accomodate mitocondria and thus can only receive ATP from glycolysis. The body will manufacture it from protein as required so the keto advocates, such as Gale, will claim that it's not essential since you can produce it from protein. Technically this is correct but there is also not real reason for almost anyone to eat very low carb either (my understanding is that Gale himself maybe one of those exception), but I'm all for personal choice and if that works for people then more power to them.

    How many threads is this argument going on concurrently?! (And same user arguing the wrong point.)

    Well that's pretty much par for the course lol.
  • DaddieCat
    DaddieCat Posts: 3,643 Member
    I just want to see the original video, lol. I've been looking for two days and can't find it. I want to see this straight from the source.
  • melonaulait
    melonaulait Posts: 769 Member
    I just want to see the original video, lol. I've been looking for two days and can't find it. I want to see this straight from the source.

    Me too, I am disappointed that I couldn't find anything. :/
  • Colorscheme
    Colorscheme Posts: 1,179 Member
    edited January 2016
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    Your body can use your glycogen stores and make them out of other stuff you eat.

    Yes but you eventually run out of them if you restrict carbs long enough.

    Also, that number should read 130, not 1300. I made a typo :/
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    You run out of glycogen but not of food you eat to convert.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    Your body can use your glycogen stores and make them out of other stuff you eat.

    Yes but you eventually run out of them if you restrict carbs long enough.

    Also, that number should read 130, not 1300. I made a typo :/

    No, you won't run out of glucose. I have been eating about 20g of carbs per day for a good seven months and I haven't felt this good in decades, my memory and cognitive function has even improved. Lack of glucose for the brain is not going to be an issue for people going low carb unless they ave a very unusual medical problem.

    You've said in a few places that the brain needs carbs.... Technically the brain needs glucose which can be produced from carbohydrates that you eat OR protein from the diet or your bodily stores. One does not need to eat carbs to live well, although most people do choose to do so.
  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    While carbs are not required for good health both fats and proteins are required to live.

    Why do you think that? the brain alone requires 120-1300 grams of carbs a day in order to remain healthy.

    Your body can use your glycogen stores and make them out of other stuff you eat.

    Yes but you eventually run out of them if you restrict carbs long enough.

    Also, that number should read 130, not 1300. I made a typo :/

    No, you won't run out of glucose. I have been eating about 20g of carbs per day for a good seven months and I haven't felt this good in decades, my memory and cognitive function has even improved. Lack of glucose for the brain is not going to be an issue for people going low carb unless they ave a very unusual medical problem.

    You've said in a few places that the brain needs carbs.... Technically the brain needs glucose which can be produced from carbohydrates that you eat OR protein from the diet or your bodily stores. One does not need to eat carbs to live well, although most people do choose to do so.

    Exactly.

    I've been eating under 100G carbs/day for about four years and am just fine, thanks.
  • allenpriest
    allenpriest Posts: 1,102 Member
    High fat, high carb, high protein. Why limit yourself

    Worked for me. But I ended up mid 400s.b :( Which is why I'm here now.
  • allenpriest
    allenpriest Posts: 1,102 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »

    That depends on how recently BBQ has been consumed.

    BBQ the perfect food. Protein fat and carbs all combined in a glorious burst of smoky flavors.


    I'm ok now. Just had a moment there.
  • Sandcastles61
    Sandcastles61 Posts: 506 Member
    edited January 2016
    C

  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
    This person is a clueless idiot! ;)