No Carb Diet
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Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
I could make the same argument for why you are wrong, because I, too, work in the medical field and more closely with patient diets than you do....but neither of us are smarter than science.
OP said nothing about being diabetic and there is nothing wrong with high carb foods when it comes to weight loss if they don't cause you to go above your calorie deficit.0 -
So long as you don't have any medical conditions that are exacerbated by a high carb intake, there is no reason, beyond choice, for restricting carbs.
At the end of the day, weight loss is about taking in fewer calories than what you expend. I have tried Keto, but at the time wasn't watching my calorie intake, so achieved nothing. Possibly, doing both at once may have worked for me.
Over the last year I have simply eaten at a calorie deficit, I haven't restricted any food group, and have continued to eat the foods I like, just in moderation, and within my calories. I've gone from 366lbs to (currently) 273.
If you want to try a low-carb way of eating, go for it, but remember that without the overall calorie deficit, you wont lose weight.
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kychoie0330 wrote: »You should check this website out. Gives you lists of low card fruits veggies, and foods in general. Also give you a list of low carb options for pretty much all fast food restaurants:
http://lowcarbediem.com/
I started low carb diet (<50g carbs/day) Start out at 260 Got down to about 205-210.
Macros were 45% protein/40% fats/15% carbs
I am currently and have been on a diet with 35% calories deficiency which is a bit much but I want to lose fat/weight fast.
2200ish normal cal intake with light activity
1500ish with 35% deficiency.
To help calculate your cal intake and what deficiency you want to be at check out this website below. its simple and great to help calculate your macros and what % deficiency you want to set your diet at
keto-calculator.ankerl.com
If you want to know why the keto diet and why it works, just private message me and I can try to do my best to explain.
Hope this helps
I was with you until "private message me." Can't share with the class? I'm curious why keto.
Also, if that's you in the PP, what fat do you have to lose fast??0 -
This is really extreme dieting. I would think this would be for some medical reason. Why would this be necessary for the average person?
Low carb (49g net carbs which is gCarbs - gFiber) is low enough. But no carb? I can't see why.
I used the low carb method, but I chose this because it worked best with my metabolism (but I'm decades older than you), and improved my health in many ways, not just a lower scale number.
What would no carb ultimately do for you? You'd lose weight but maybe you'd also get some unwelcomed/unplanned effects too.0 -
I also follow a low carb diet because the amount of sugar in our foods today is just scary. About 85% of the foods we have the option of buying in grocery stores have added sugar. It can be a very addicting thing. Also the population has been trying the low calories thing from the 70's and generally speaking our population is just getting fatter and fatter. Again a lot of products with added sugar and a lot more processed foods. Your body will use sugar as it's main energy burner because it's easier to burn then fat, if you take away the sugar/carbs it has not choice but to burn fat for energy. I decided, with my doctors help, to try something different and that the low carb diet. I don't follow a program I just eat whole low carb foods. It means a lot of cooking but it's working and it's healthier. My blood pressure has dropped A LOT and my blood work is coming in a lot better as well. Don't discount this way of eating. Talk to you doctor, express your concerns, do your own research for your own body and make a decision. Good luck!0
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Your brain uses glucose. Glucose is produced by consuming carbohydrates. If you want to eliminate anything, eliminate simple sugars.
Meats do not have carbs, by the way.
Not much, but they do have carbs
From the USDA nutrient database, http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/7184?manu=&fgcd=
Basic Report: 23093, Beef, chuck for stew, separable lean and fat, all grades, raw
Value per 100 g 3.0 oz
Water g 72.51 61.63
Energy kcal 128 109
Protein g 21.75 18.49
Total lipid (fat) g 4.48 3.81
Carbohydrate, by difference g 0.16 0.14
Fiber, total dietary g 0.0 0.0
Sugars, total g 0.00 0.00
Even though something like beef doesn't have much by the way of carbs, your body will convert extra protein to glucose to store it. If you don't eat carbs, you'll make them.0 -
No such thing as a no-carb diet. Low carb diets are definitely real, and something that I personally feel satisfies me more than lots of carbs. To get to the bottom of things, whatever diet WORKS for you is what you should do. Whether it's just fitting your macros, low-fat, low-carb, high-protein. If it keeps you on track, it works.0
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ogmomma2012 wrote: »No such thing as a no-carb diet. Low carb diets are definitely real, and something that I personally feel satisfies me more than lots of carbs. To get to the bottom of things, whatever diet WORKS for you is what you should do. Whether it's just fitting your macros, low-fat, low-carb, high-protein. If it keeps you on track, it works.
You, I like.0 -
I like my low carb diet, and I still eat a bunch of non-starchy vegetables every day. Fat makes me feel more satisfied than starch does, and I end up eating less than I did when I ate bread, rice, potatoes, and sugar.0
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lithezebra wrote: »I like my low carb diet, and I still eat a bunch of non-starchy vegetables every day. Fat makes me feel more satisfied than starch does, and I end up eating less than I did when I ate bread, rice, potatoes, and sugar.
So true. I don't really low carb, but I can tell when my macro balances are off because of this. It's the one reason I like the idea of low carb and why I really think it helps a lot of people.0 -
I tried low carb and wanted to destroy every carbohydrate within view. The people above me would make homemade bread and that small would drive me to the point of insanity. Then I realized that I was torturing myself for no reason. I started paying attention to my calories over my carbs and I've lost 35 pounds. As for "good" carbs and "bad" carbs....tonight I ate some "good" (beans) and several "bad" (ice cream, starbucks frappucino). Am I worried about all the carbs I ate? Nope. I stayed in a calorie deficit so I know I'll keep losing weight.0 -
Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.0 -
Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...0 -
tara_means_star wrote: »Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...
Are you thinking of Okinowa?0 -
tara_means_star wrote: »Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...
Are you thinking of Okinowa?
I think so!0 -
tara_means_star wrote: »Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...
I think their bodies are a little different, like, they have a larger pancreas or something? So they can handle more carbs.
In a similar way, Northern European people seem to handle dairy better.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »tara_means_star wrote: »Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...
I think their bodies are a little different, like, they have a larger pancreas or something? So they can handle more carbs.
I've never heard of that. Any articles to explain?0 -
tara_means_star wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »tara_means_star wrote: »Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...
I think their bodies are a little different, like, they have a larger pancreas or something? So they can handle more carbs.
I've never heard of that. Any articles to explain?
Yes, I just googled some, they're pretty prevalent.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »tara_means_star wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »tara_means_star wrote: »Kay2016Sexy wrote: »Being a nurse makes me more accountable for my post, If it wasn't true I would not have said it. That's all. And NO It wouldn't. If you eat more higher carbs, it's not going to be the same as eating low carbs. It doesn't take a genius to know that. High carb food are bad, sorry but they are? If they wasn't then everyone could eat whatever they wanted to. Especially Diabetes patients.
So vegans and vegetarians are inherently unhealthy? How about places like the blue zones? Just because one eats high carb does not mean they eat low nutrient, high calorie foods (cakes, cookies, etc...). Many high carb foods are very healthy with a wide range of benefits; oatmeal, fruits, quinoa, sweet potatoes, etc..
What makes a diet unhealthy is the quantity of calories and density of nutrients.
Also, my good friend is a University of Penn trained pedantic cardiologist and admits to having no training or knowledge in nutrition. In fact, unless its your specialty, the average doctor has little to no training, so i would ask how much a nurse would have.
How much training does a nurse have in nutrition? None. My sister is a nurse. She's excellent at wound care--she even saved the life of a chicken that my dog nearly destroyed (he did kill 4...he's like 8 pounds. It was bad). That being said, there are many things that I trust my sister's judgement on...but nutrition isn't one of them. Consider the fact that several asian communities in the world are considered to have the healthiest diets and to live the longest, including a Japanese community I forget the name of. Asian diets are, in large part, carbs. Think pasta and rice...
I think their bodies are a little different, like, they have a larger pancreas or something? So they can handle more carbs.
I've never heard of that. Any articles to explain?
Yes, I just googled some, they're pretty prevalent.
How about a legitimate source? Because I googled it and found that it was proposed by one single doctor back in 1930, with no studies to back it up.0 -
I googled it and didn't find anything.0
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Perhaps I should edit my original post....I found stuff but nothing from a legit source.0
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