Bulletproof coffee

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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    3AAnn3 wrote: »
    robertw486 wrote: »
    3AAnn3 wrote: »
    3AAnn3 wrote: »
    I liked it when I was on keto. With MCT oil. You really don't store the fat from MCT the same way as you do other fats. It cleans you out really well, and does help with energy. body builders use it for quick energy.

    I'm pretty sure that's a myth. An excess of calories in any form will result in weight gain.

    You can believe what you want. I'm not saying you can down a whole bottle. I've never consumed more than 2 tbsp a day. Super quick energy. And it cleans you out.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa23.htm

    Calories are calories. Unless you somehow find something that doesn't get absorbed by the body properly, too much of any type of calories can make you gain weight. Energy balance has a lot of little factors, but there is no magic pill in any form.

    The link you supplied is selling it. They don't want to admit that it's just another type of food, as you can buy regular food just about anywhere.
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    3AAnn3 wrote: »
    3AAnn3 wrote: »
    I liked it when I was on keto. With MCT oil. You really don't store the fat from MCT the same way as you do other fats. It cleans you out really well, and does help with energy. body builders use it for quick energy.

    I'm pretty sure that's a myth. An excess of calories in any form will result in weight gain.

    You can believe what you want. I'm not saying you can down a whole bottle. I've never consumed more than 2 tbsp a day. Super quick energy. And it cleans you out.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa23.htm

    If you are in a surplus you will store fat that's not a belief, it's hard science

    Robert, Where was bodybuilding selling MCT?
    NDJ, Yes, but I didn't say a person could lose weight in a surplus, just that MCT is less likely to be stored as fat.

    "MCT has a smaller molecular structure and is more soluble in water. Therefore, it is easier for your body to absorb and does not require this complicated digestive process. Whereas conventional fats are prone to being stored as body fat, MCT is transported directly from the small intestine to the liver by the portal vein. In the liver, some of the MCTs are turned into ketone bodies, which the muscles can use for energy. Some MCT's are used for thermogenesis, and a portion is converted to ATP, the energy currency of the cell. MCT, therefore is processed in the liver, so there is little left to be stored as fat."

    woo
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    edited January 2016
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.
  • tomteboda
    tomteboda Posts: 2,171 Member
    This sounds like a vegetarian alternative to cream in the coffee, a time-honored morning ritual for millions.
  • WhatLouAte
    WhatLouAte Posts: 155 Member
    Love a bulletproof coffee in the morning, yes I´m one of the weirdos following a keto diet!
  • scfarrant
    scfarrant Posts: 30 Member
    It's been reported that bulletpoint coffee is a sure-fire quick method towards high cholesterol and heart disease. Many health-related charities have been actively discouraging it recently.

    http://authoritynutrition.com/3-reasons-why-bulletproof-coffee-is-a-bad-idea/

    It also sounds absolutely disgusting! :-/
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited January 2016
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.
  • lisalsd1
    lisalsd1 Posts: 1,519 Member
    My nutritionist friend has been putting butter in coffee for YEARS! She also can't figure out why she has gained weight...
  • WhatLouAte
    WhatLouAte Posts: 155 Member
    scfarrant wrote: »
    It's been reported that bulletpoint coffee is a sure-fire quick method towards high cholesterol and heart disease. Many health-related charities have been actively discouraging it recently.

    http://authoritynutrition.com/3-reasons-why-bulletproof-coffee-is-a-bad-idea/

    It also sounds absolutely disgusting! :-/

    All bulletproof coffee is made different, mine is 122 calories a cup, has 10g butter and 5g coconut oil and certainly not 422 calories or whatever he said.

    That said I would rather spend the calories on that than ice cream, chocolate and cake.

    Not having any nutrition in there makes it bad is a load of rubbish, you can easily get the nutrients in your next meals. I never used to eat breakfast at all, I just don´t like eating in the morning, at least this way I am getting some decent fat.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    I was seeking your advice
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    It's a fact for a low fat diet only.
    Only.
    If I ate that much fat, I'd never get enough calories. Is that what you're recommending?
    I limit carbs for my own reasons which are not up for debate. My health is better than it's ever been.
    I don't know why you would be advising me to reduce fat. That's really terrible advice for the way I eat.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    It's a fact for a low fat diet only.
    Only.
    If I ate that much fat, I'd never get enough calories. Is that what you're recommending?
    I limit carbs for my own reasons which are not up for debate. My health is better than it's ever been.
    I don't know why you would be advising me to reduce fat. That's really terrible advice for the way I eat.

    i was not replying to you so not sure what you are talking about.

    my point is that fat is a minimum and there is no reason to eat 50% above the recommended minimum; unless of course one has a medical condition to reduce or eliminate carbs.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    Guess I thought you were speaking to me when saying this.
    I had already said I eat a Ketogenic diet and you still advised that it was uneccessary to eat that much fat.
    Weather or not I have a medical reason to eat this way is irrelevant. I am able to choose it if I feel it's the most sustainable for me regardless of medical need.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.
  • tristen_leigh
    tristen_leigh Posts: 214 Member
    I drink it everyone once in a while. I tend not to get nearly enough fat. I generally just use coconut oil and no butter.

    It isn't a magical solution to anything, but it is a way to increase fat without adding carbs.

    If you emulsify the coconut oil with hot coffee in a blender, it tastes like having added dairy. It's not slick, oily or gross.

    This. I blend a teaspoon of coconut oil and raw sugar with my coffee - in a blender (no oil slick) and it comes out like creamy, frothy, delicious heaven. It replaces weird non-dairy coffee creamer for me and I love it.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.

    My point is that you directed that statement at me and I had already said that I eat a Ketogenic diet... So your advice would prove to be very very bad for me if I didn't understand my dietary needs for the way I eat.
    That advice is not one size fits all
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited January 2016
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.

    Unless you are hitting the minimum target exactly right on the nose, you will either be over or under the minimum requirement. I think going over would be the better move.

    The minimum for me is 67.5 g of fat per day. I'm over that by 30-40 g per day. If I wasn't I wouldn't meet my caloric goal.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    edited January 2016
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  • Annabella402
    Annabella402 Posts: 12 Member
    I tried it - it was disgusting, just an oil slick. I prefer my coffee the usual way, with milk.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.

    Unless you are hitting the minimum target exactly right on the nose, you will either be over or under the minimum requirement. I think going over would be the better move.

    The minimum for me is 67.5 g of fat per day. I'm over that by 30-40 g per day. If I wasn't I wouldn't meet my caloric goal.

    which is your choice as you view carbs as bad which they are not.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I tried it - it was disgusting, just an oil slick. I prefer my coffee the usual way, with milk.

    I get that revolting oil slick when I don't blend it properly
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    funny
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.

    Unless you are hitting the minimum target exactly right on the nose, you will either be over or under the minimum requirement. I think going over would be the better move.

    The minimum for me is 67.5 g of fat per day. I'm over that by 30-40 g per day. If I wasn't I wouldn't meet my caloric goal.

    which is your choice as you view carbs as bad which they are not.

    Bad? LOL
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.

    Unless you are hitting the minimum target exactly right on the nose, you will either be over or under the minimum requirement. I think going over would be the better move.

    The minimum for me is 67.5 g of fat per day. I'm over that by 30-40 g per day. If I wasn't I wouldn't meet my caloric goal.

    which is your choice as you view carbs as bad which they are not.

    Bad? LOL

    so your saying you don't?
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited January 2016
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I drink it every morning as part of my Ketogenic diet, MCT's provide quick energy and the fats are very satisfying for me. I don't add quite the amount that you find if you search for the recipe online. My two 10 oz cups of coffee only have 1Tbs each of MCT oil and grass fed butter between them. It does need to be blended. If you just stir the fat in, the oil just floats on top.
    This is what it looks like.
    r5fzbuh6frfd.jpg
    There's actually nothing greasy about it at all.

    again, totally unnecessary to be injesting that amount of fat.

    That is just your personal judgement, and not a fact. For someone on a low carb high fat diet, fats need to be increased or calories are ridiculously low.

    not a judgement, a fact. Fat minimums should be .45 grams per pound of body weight, anything over that is not necessary.

    That's a minimum. The lowest amount of fat one should eat. I think the maximum is what you are probably meaning... I don't believe there is a maximum.

    my point is it is totally unnecessary to exceed the minimum requirement.

    Unless you are hitting the minimum target exactly right on the nose, you will either be over or under the minimum requirement. I think going over would be the better move.

    The minimum for me is 67.5 g of fat per day. I'm over that by 30-40 g per day. If I wasn't I wouldn't meet my caloric goal.

    which is your choice as you view carbs as bad which they are not.

    Bad? LOL

    so your saying you don't?

    Bad? No. I don't think carbs are bad. I know higher levels of carbs (even moderate levels) are unhealthy for me. Too much protein is also not helpful for me to achieve good health. That leaves fat. Since fat is not bad either, I eat it and enjoy it.

    YMMV
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    edited January 2016
    What's with the argumentativeness, seriously!! :tired_face:

    We all have different ways to easily reach our individual deficits. I personally wouldn't eat some of the "diets" people here eat, but I'm not going to pounce on them, give them the third degree or make them go through the Spanish inquisition to my satisfaction...

  • WhatLouAte
    WhatLouAte Posts: 155 Member
    Blend it people, blend!
  • Lourdesong
    Lourdesong Posts: 1,492 Member
    tomteboda wrote: »
    This sounds like a vegetarian alternative to cream in the coffee, a time-honored morning ritual for millions.

    Pretty sure it's the claims made about what BPC will do for your health and your waistline and your performance that is at issue here.

    Liking fatty coffee, or not, is neither relevant or even all that interesting. People do lots of things to coffee and food that I personally find to be disturbing and gross, and I'm sure the reverse is true. No one cares.

    To quote the OP:
    Has anyone ever tried this? Adding butter and coconut oil to your coffee? They say it makes you feel full and burn fat ?? I'm very skeptical.