Aren't you a little tired of the "Obesity Epidemic"?
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I hope we all know that part of the reason that "Everyone is overweight" is that they changed the standards of the BMI -- I think around 2000 --- so that all these people who were considered average were now overweight. Part of the reason I don't like all this talk is that it doesn't take into consideration the "why" rather than the "how."
So absolutely not true...and a really weak excuse.....
Actually--it's TRUE. http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9806/17/weight.guidelines/
They changed the guidelines in 1998 in ways that defined more people as overweight. They give an example in the article.
To someone else who posted....it's not quite clear that a bmi of under 25 is healthier than overweight BMI. Most recent study, published in January in Journal of the American Medical Assn. finds people in the overweight category were less likely to die during the study period! It's not a definitive study, but there is still a lot of disagreement in the medical community about whether having a bmi of 25 to 29.9 is less healthy than under 25. Obese BMI--yes, less healthy in general.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/02/health/overweight-mortality
I don't remember if it's in that article or not, but there is speculation that part of why "overweight" individuals may be less likely to die is that they may be more likely to go to the doctor because they know they're overweight and need to visit the doctor. Meanwhile, people in the lighter ends of the BMI chart may assume they're fine and not go to the doctor until something is very serious.0 -
And the part where 'normal' and 'class 1 obesity' were about the same.
You skipped the part where people in the 'overweight' category actually had better outcomes than the 'normal' category.A BMI of 30 or above is linked to numerous health issues and a shorter lifespan, while a BMI of 25 or less leads to much better outcomes.
http://podblog.blogs.hopkinsmedicine.org/2013/01/07/obesity-and-mortality/0 -
BMI is only a guide.
If you are an elite body builder carrying lots of muscle and you have a BMI over 30, that's fine.
Most people will know if their high BMI is due to this or not.
If not, then it is highly likely you are over weight and over weight enough for it to be likely to affect your health outcomes.
There is another tool (in Australia anyway, not sure if it is used in USA) where waist measurement is used as a guide to healthy size - this is quite useful as eliminates the 'muscle tipping BMI up' people - an elite body builder or even a healthy muscular sportsperson may have a higher BMI but will still not have an overly increased girth.
The waist measurement is good because it does try to focus on fat. But it's still similarly limited because not everyone's skeletal structure is the same. In the US Air Force, there's a big discussion about waist measurement as part of our fitness test. Men can be between 58 and 80 inches (147-203 cm) to serve . But they have the same waist standard whether the individual is 4'10" or 6'8". So it's like saying you can stretch a person out vertically, but you can't have any corresponding / proportional horizontal increase.
Both methods can be used to get a quick look, but if you really want to know about an individual's health, you need to get out the calipers, bod pod, or other BF% measuring devices.0 -
Once I get to know people, I don't even realize what weight they are, I see them beautiful if they have a beautiful personality. I love food very much, I love all the grease and cheeses and sugars! it's taking a lot of self control for me to stop these urges and substitute them for something healthier. I am according to the BMI chart Obese, I don't feel obese, but when I change in front of a mirror the thought does cross my mind,
I DO wish people wouldn't judge others by their weight and would pay more attention to the person themselves and their personality. it is very rude to make jokes or criticize others based on that single look. I'm sure they have faults too and are extremely insecure about them.
Normal, Happy people don't have a need to bring others down and talk bad about others, there is something wrong with THEM if they feel they need to do that.0 -
People need to live in reality. If you are fat, don't ignore it an hope it goes away. It is okay to be hungry. Start moving, count calories, no excuses. It may sound harsh but I got fat by not being honest with myself. I wouldn't even weigh myself because the truth was too painful. Face it head on, be brave, and just do it.0
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People can be rude and amazingly judgmental. and life isn't fair and some people can eat more without gaining weight. Now it's time to get over all that and act for your own health, fitness and sense of well-being.
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The title of your post reminded me of a song a few years back.
It was by Lazy Boy and it was called "Underwear Goes Inside The Pants" It is an awesome song with a very powerful message.
"Americans, let's face it: We've been a spoiled country for a long time.
Do you know what the number one health risk in America is? Obesity. They say we're in the middle of an obesity epidemic.
An epidemic like it is polio.
Like we'll be telling our grand kids about it one day.
The Great Obesity Epidemic of 2004.
"How'd you get through it grandpa?"
"Oh, it was horrible Johnny, there was cheesecake and pork chops everywhere."
Nobody knows why were getting fatter? Look at our lifestyle. I'll sit at a drive thru.
I'll sit there behind fifteen other cars instead of getting up to make the eight foot walk to the totally empty counter.
Everything is mega meal, super sized. Want biggie fries, super sized, want to go large.
You want to have thirty burgers for a nickel you fat mother f*cker. There's room in the back. Take it!
Want a 55 gallon drum of Coke with that? It's only three more cents."
http://www.lyricsmania.com/underwear_goes_inside_the_pants_lyrics_lazyboy.html
:laugh: yeah that about sums it up!
I have made excuses, I have stuffed my face countless times knowing full well exactly what I was doing and just having an IDGAF moment - moment after moment after moment.... I have blamed my parents, genetics, ex-husbands, and maryjane and margarita.... But I think even as a child I knew all those cookies weren't what I should be eating, back when I was one of the few overweight children in school (and I am talking maybe 10-20 lbs heavier than my classmates on average, not the 100+ we are seeing today)... And we get to the point where we need to act like adults and take on the responsibility for our choices, and who gives a rats' *kitten* if something is GMO or corn-fortified or whatever - whether you are practicing clean eating or not, it is up to YOU to control portions. Yes it scares me to see the obesity epidemic in our country, and as someone else said, I am tired of being part of it, which is why I am here and making the changes. Tonite I want nothing more than to cave to PMS cravings and scarf an entire package of rice-a-roni, but I am not going to let cravings control me any more, nor give in to hormones as an excuse. But seriously, I am kinda in a stabby mood and not using starchy carbs to combat it isn't helping... So I will save the "PMS and hormones" excuse for my legal defense :grumble:0 -
I wrote this to see what kinds of people were on the board and how much self-loathing was going on. I'm past that, so I really don't want to see fat-phobic rhetoric.
I see there are people who "don't like excuses," whatever that means, because I've found that life isn't very black and white. It certainly isn't "You're fit or you're making excuses." Almost all of my family is overweight, so whether or not that's genetic or behavioral, I don't know. I also eat because I'm stressed out or depressed, as do other members of my family. These are facts. Glossing over it or calling it "excuses" is being dismissive.
I've lost hundreds of pounds and regained them (not all at once, but definitely over 20 years), been on numerous diets (my mom put me on one when I was 10) so I come here trying to make peace with my experience with food and eating, and promote acceptance and common sense. This experience doesn't come in one size nor does it fit all.0 -
Just for the record, I just looked in my dictionary and it defines epidemic as "a rapid development, spread, or growth of something, esp something unpleasant". So, technically it IS an epidemic. Yes, people may be overweight for various reasons HOWEVER that doesn't make it any less unhealthy. I don't know why people keep trying to deny it. It's unhealthy to be overweight PERIOD. That being said, it's also unhealthy to be UNDERweight as well. If you saw someone who looked like this:
Wouldn't you be concerned whether you knew them or not? I'm sure ANYONE would make a comment about it at the very least. Then how come we aren't allowed to say anything when someone is morbidly obese? Why is it suddenly SO RUDE when someone states the fact that being overweight is unhealthy and that there is an obesity epidemic?0 -
My doctor for years was convinced that I had diabetes. Any complaint I brought to her, had to be because of diabetes. So for probably twice a year for 3 years I was tested for diabetes. I'm not even in a warning zone to watch for diabetes so other than my weight that was her only "proof" Everything I had health related was related to my weight. I understand that I need to get my weight under my control but a large part of it was my depression and just not feeling worth anything so I just ate. Emotional eater riiiiiight here. My lovely doctor chalked this down to my weight also. It's not, it's genetic and I had to see another doctor to get anti depressants rather than "just lose the weight."
I'm tired of being told I have to be unhealthy because I'm overweight (well heavily overweight but by no means do I classify myself as obese). Or that I need to be unhappy because of my weight. Aside from my weight I'm healthy, relatively fit - I can walk for hours and I'm happy with who I am and how I look (most days).0 -
i was always thin,i worked at it daily as a young lady to stay that way,BUT after i had kids i was never really thin again and still am not but i plan to be..Im doing great..what i find is just as you hear,you are supposed to eat when your hungry..just what and how much we choose to eat is the key..Ive learned from lets say reteaching myself not to eat garbage...that healthy food is good,preparation is everything..i cook so heakthy now it scares me..and for those times when i have these crashing moments..i chalk it up to,if you dont buy it,you dont have it,you wont eat it..also,do not drink sugar,not in any form,no juice,soda..water water water...when you get those snack attacks,choose ice cold watermelon ,or cut some berries up over cottage cheese,or just eat them,very satisfying..i am luck though that when i get sad,depressed,tired of everything,,i dont eat,so i feel for you on that one..rem to visit this site daily it helps me so much keep track of what im eating and stick to my exercise,,and rem 1 pnd at a time,a pnd is a nice chunk of beef,its a great thing to drop a pnd..keep thinking day at a time,till it becomes an addiction,hugs..ps i know what your talking about,i have had coworkers have a baby and be skinny already and be eating like 2 bites of a sandwich cause their fat and,their not!! and i am ,but me i said something,maybe you should too0
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This article explains how clothes sizing has changed since the 1950s.
http://abeautifulmess.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/08/how-to-shop-for-vintage-clothing-understanding-vintage-sizing.html
It's interesting to see how clothes sizes have shrunk.0 -
I think most of the excuses people don't like are when individuals try to come up with an external cause for weight problems.
As you say, it's not black and white, but, in the end, most weight issues reduce down to things we have done to ourselves. From emotional eating, to bored eating, to coming from a culture that heavily emphasizes food, most of the time, it boils down to the fact that we are the ones who put food into our own mouths.
The takeaway from that is that we need to make sure we aren't trying to deflect responsibility. It's not our friends or family who "sabotage" us by providing unhealthy foods. It's that we choose to put that food into our bodies and, therefore, must acknowledge our own responsibility.
To an extent, it's not even medical situations because there are often are things the individuals can do once the issue is recognized. In the military, we have people who become injured and can't be as active as they once were. In some cases, their weight goes up because they didn't change their eating habits to compensate. As a result, when they're injured and unable to exercise, we actively remind them they will need to reduce their intake.
The issue that then comes up is that not all of us reach the point of acknowledging the challenges we face and taking more control at the same point in time.
That's where perspectives, such as those of your coworkers, come out. In my family, we also sometimes ask ourselves how individuals can become obese. We don't think they're bad people, but watching our diet, activity level, and waistlines is such a part of our day to day life that we wonder why they do not *seem* alarmed or don't *seem* to take action at points where we would have said "okay, I need to change something". (Of course, it's all based on what WE perceive to be going on in their minds. They may be in a self-propagating emotional eating cycle that we don't know about. If we knew what was going on, then we wouldn't be wondering.)
One example of where my family as asked "how can they get that overweight" would be people who use the Freedom Wand. We can understand people needing to use it because they've had surgery, have arthritis, or have hip or shoulder problems. What puzzles us is when someone needs to use it because they are obese and cannot wipe themselves. To us, we would have wanted to address our weight issue BEFORE self-sanitation became so difficult we needed tools.0 -
When I think of the "obesity epidemic," I think of patients who are so overweight they can barely walk, need bigger bed and wheelchairs ordered, can't wipe themselves, etc. When I worked on the cardiac floor, we would have patients who needed six or seven people to be transferred from the bed to the stretcher, because they couldn't stand and turn (sometimes because of their weight, sometimes because of the medical problem). That is half the unit staff who now can't take care of their other patients. When I was on the orthopedic floor there would be morbidly obese people getting joint replacements, because now surgeons are able to perform on them (in the past most wouldn't because it was too high risk, now they're used to it). But it takes longer for them to recover and often they come back within three days with the wound now open because of their weight. It's more stress on the wound, and fat doesn't heal well. Then there is a rapid increase in the number of children with type II diabetes. The major risk factor is weight, and losing weight is a tried and true help for it.
When medical professionals talk about an "obesity epidemic," they don't mean people who need to tone up and lose ten pounds. They mean that the healthcare system can't support all the people with obesity related conditions. The BMI standards were changed because there was a lot of research to support it. A lot of it has to do with risk factors. Hopefully by telling more people they are overweight, they won't get to the point of obesity. Normal blood pressure has been lowered as well, because too often it gets higher, so treating it early will prevent dangerously high blood pressure. It's the same thing for blood sugar. More and more of healthcare is based on so many people being overweight or obese.0 -
I wrote this to see what kinds of people were on the board and how much self-loathing was going on. I'm past that, so I really don't want to see fat-phobic rhetoric.
You came to a fitness/weightloss website and are suprised to hear that people on this board will emphasize fitness and weight loss?I see there are people who "don't like excuses," whatever that means, because I've found that life isn't very black and white. It certainly isn't "You're fit or you're making excuses." Almost all of my family is overweight, so whether or not that's genetic or behavioral, I don't know. I also eat because I'm stressed out or depressed, as do other members of my family. These are facts. Glossing over it or calling it "excuses" is being dismissive.
It's not being dismissive, it's being realistic. Some people do like avoiding the reality of their situation, unfortunately.I've lost hundreds of pounds and regained them (not all at once, but definitely over 20 years), been on numerous diets (my mom put me on one when I was 10) so I come here trying to make peace with my experience with food and eating, and promote acceptance and common sense. This experience doesn't come in one size nor does it fit all.
Promote acceptance of what? Unhealthy lifestyles? There is no sense in that, common or otherwise.0 -
People who don't struggle with their weight really don't realize that it's mostly commonly an emotional issue. Actually, a lot of people who are overweight don't realize it, either, which is my theory about why so many gain the weight back, because they don't deal with the root emotional issues that led to them being overweight in the first place.0
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Yes, I have had that experience, too! It's as if many doctors have been to seminars that promote this idea that if you're overweight you *must* have high cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes. And, inf my experience anyway, it also seems to mean that you must be completely sedentary and clueless as to how you got to be overweight!
Thanks for sharing!
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i was always thin,i worked at it daily as a young lady to stay that way,BUT after i had kids i was never really thin again and still am not but i plan to be..Im doing great..what i find is just as you hear,you are supposed to eat when your hungry..just what and how much we choose to eat is the key..Ive learned from lets say reteaching myself not to eat garbage...that healthy food is good,preparation is everything..i cook so heakthy now it scares me..and for those times when i have these crashing moments..i chalk it up to,if you dont buy it,you dont have it,you wont eat it..also,do not drink sugar,not in any form,no juice,soda..water water water...when you get those snack attacks,choose ice cold watermelon ,or cut some berries up over cottage cheese,or just eat them,very satisfying..i am luck though that when i get sad,depressed,tired of everything,,i dont eat,so i feel for you on that one..rem to visit this site daily it helps me so much keep track of what im eating and stick to my exercise,,and rem 1 pnd at a time,a pnd is a nice chunk of beef,its a great thing to drop a pnd..keep thinking day at a time,till it becomes an addiction,hugs..ps i know what your talking about,i have had coworkers have a baby and be skinny already and be eating like 2 bites of a sandwich cause their fat and,their not!! and i am ,but me i said something,maybe you should too
Thanks for sharing! Personally, I've had a lot of success starting to use the Glycemic Index Diet -- which is basically eating more fruits and veggies, smarter protein and complex carbohydrates. You can even eat 1 oz. of chocolate a day! I am a snacker, too. I love crunchy -- and depending on the time of month, I like salty, too.
I haven't drank sugary soda in probably about 5 years (I had a vanilla coke, love those one in a great while) and I don't drink juice because fruit gives me more fiber, which I need. I've hired a personal trainer because I need to be accountable to someone and work harder. It's working. My husband is now on board and joining me for workouts.
When I was depressed, I *craved* sugar. My psychiatrist said that it was very common in depressed patients. And now that I'm working out more regularly, I find I don't crave it like I used to.0 -
The takeaway from that is that we need to make sure we aren't trying to deflect responsibility. It's not our friends or family who "sabotage" us by providing unhealthy foods. It's that we choose to put that food into our bodies and, therefore, must acknowledge our own responsibility. . . .
That's where perspectives, such as those of your coworkers, come out. In my family, we also sometimes ask ourselves how individuals can become obese. We don't think they're bad people, but watching our diet, activity level, and waistlines is such a part of our day to day life that we wonder why they do not *seem* alarmed or don't *seem* to take action at points where we would have said "okay, I need to change something". (Of course, it's all based on what WE perceive to be going on in their minds. They may be in a self-propagating emotional eating cycle that we don't know about. If we knew what was going on, then we wouldn't be wondering.)
I would say that if someone is very overweight, then it likely has an emotional or psychological component. That needs to be addressed because all the exercise and food (or lack thereof) will do nothing to help relieve that. Like losing weight, gaining weight occurs over time and doesn't come all at once. It's more complex than that. I grew up in a family that was overweight, ate emotionally and had a physically and emotionally abusive parent. It wasn't a place that gave a child loads of tools for coping, so me and others like me learn how to do that as an adult. The reason I wrote the original repost was to deal with the judgment that goes on by people that assume everyone has the same experience as he or she does.
By the way, I will say that some partners do sabotage. A family or partner that works with you is an amazing support system that really helps with weight loss and exercise. I consider myself lucky.0 -
People who don't struggle with their weight really don't realize that it's mostly commonly an emotional issue. Actually, a lot of people who are overweight don't realize it, either, which is my theory about why so many gain the weight back, because they don't deal with the root emotional issues that led to them being overweight in the first place.
True, but doctors aren't overly concerned with that either.0 -
I agree entirely. When I was really slim, I was size 10 UK. I hear people saying they are size zero and I look at them and see that they are fatter than I was then. Something has changed!0
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I don't think anyone can deny the obesity problems of the US, and here in the UK we are not far behind. It's easy to blame everything but yourself, but with our busy lifestyles of today and the poor food choices available, people will take the path of least resistance. Personally I blame the rise in convenience and fast foods with their reliance on fat and sugar to make them taste nice and make us feel good while eating it. The job of "Food Scientist" exists for a reason, and it isn't necessarily for our good health.
There is a really interesting book called 'Pure, White and Deadly' about the sugar industry and how sugar consumption has gone up. If you only believe a fraction of it, then you are half way to understanding the scale of the bad choices wafted under our noses.
Personally, I try to avoid manufactured, processed foods in favour of something I have created myself. If nothing else, it gets you further away from the chemicals often added for preservatives and so on that send your kids hyper. I don't think it takes a genius to correlate the rise in obesity with the rise in convenience food.
Avoid!0 -
Yes, I have had that experience, too! It's as if many doctors have been to seminars that promote this idea that if you're overweight you *must* have high cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes. And, inf my experience anyway, it also seems to mean that you must be completely sedentary and clueless as to how you got to be overweight!
Thanks for sharing!
c.
I don't think doctors say if you are overweight you must have high BP, high Cholestrol, diabetes etc - however the statistical reality is that overweight people do carry much higher risks of developing diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
This isn't an 'idea' - it's an evidence based reality.0 -
Yes, I have had that experience, too! It's as if many doctors have been to seminars that promote this idea that if you're overweight you *must* have high cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes. And, inf my experience anyway, it also seems to mean that you must be completely sedentary and clueless as to how you got to be overweight!
Thanks for sharing!
c.
I don't think doctors say if you are overweight you must have high BP, high Cholestrol, diabetes etc - however the statistical reality is that overweight people do carry much higher risks of developing diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
This isn't an 'idea' - it's an evidence based reality.
Agree. You may or may not develop those health problems, but you definitely increase your risk by being overweight. Everyone seems to have the relative who smoked a pack a day and lived to be 99 with no problem. But not everyone will be so lucky.
Why take the risk if you don't have to?
Now, excuse me while I head out to the hospital. My obese husband with Type II diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol is having health problems. He wasn't one of the lucky ones.0 -
Oxford University ( http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/science_blog/130116.html ) have updated the body mass index with a new formula that they say more accurately estimates body fat the reasons are articulated in the attached article which has the old calculator (used in the UK ) to the proposed new one
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9816596/Interactive-calculator-do-you-win-or-lose-with-the-new-BMI.html0 -
I agree entirely. When I was really slim, I was size 10 UK. I hear people saying they are size zero and I look at them and see that they are fatter than I was then. Something has changed!
i'm not exactly sure what a size 0 is in UK but the size 0 i'm use to I would never call anything close to fat0 -
What scares me is seeing a few of these documentaries on tv - i.e. the people who go thru the very drastic bariatric surgery, and then after they gain the weight back and/or they are shown eating soda pop and macdonalds, and they have not changed their eating habits. This is disastrous and might kill them.
the other thing - when i see the hospitals where the bariatric patient is going - they are shown refusing to do the program and sneaking in fast food deliveries -
the other thing - when they have the super obese featured on a documentary like the 1,000 ton man, and he is acting so desperate, however, when the doctor talks with his wife, his wife cant put up with his screaming for bad food or she doesn't know good food choices, or she feels sorry for him or whatever, but he cant cook and she is bringing him food that is way unhealthy.
so if they are having a hard time following healthy eating, even to save their life, this is alarming to me.0 -
I've lost hundreds of pounds and regained them (not all at once, but definitely over 20 years), been on numerous diets (my mom put me on one when I was 10) so I come here trying to make peace with my experience with food and eating, and promote acceptance and common sense. This experience doesn't come in one size nor does it fit all.
Promote acceptance of what? Unhealthy lifestyles? There is no sense in that, common or otherwise.
I am going to take a stab at this....
I am guessing that the acceptance in question is not meant as "accepting unhealthy lifestyles." My guess is that it is a subtle critique of the fact that "healthy" is frequently used as a proxy for "skinny."
I am going out on a limb, because I can't read the person's mind who wrote it, but here's what I *think* they meant: healthy does not automatically mean thin, nor does thin automatically mean healthy. The two can certainly overlap, but it's not as black and white as we are generally taught to think. There exists a range of sizes and shapes in which people -- people who eat healthy foods and who are active -- are actually healthy.
Now, I doubt this person is talking about folks who are obese or morbidly obese yet have excellent blood pressure numbers, etc. But rather, I suspect they are talking about the folks swimming around in the "overweight according to the BMI charts" pool. This would include people like me -- my BMI is currently 26, which qualifies me as overweight. Yet I have excellent numbers, I wear a size 8, and I am quite active.
EDITED to say this: Re-reading my post, I would like to be upfront and say that I would like to lose about 10 vanity pounds. However, I do not think that losing these vanity pounds will make me healthier. Their loss may help in athletic ability (run faster), but I think that their impact on my overall health will be minimal.0 -
Oxford University ( http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/science_blog/130116.html ) have updated the body mass index with a new formula that they say more accurately estimates body fat the reasons are articulated in the attached article which has the old calculator (used in the UK ) to the proposed new one
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9816596/Interactive-calculator-do-you-win-or-lose-with-the-new-BMI.html
Apparently I'm about 1 point less on the new chart.0 -
I hope we all know that part of the reason that "Everyone is overweight" is that they changed the standards of the BMI -- I think around 2000 --- so that all these people who were considered average were now overweight. Part of the reason I don't like all this talk is that it doesn't take into consideration the "why" rather than the "how."
I have had very slender coworkers talk about, "How can people get that big? They really need to learn discipline" or even "It's disgusting to be that fat!" (I was never thin so I don't know why they said these things in front of me!) And I keep hearing that, "Oh, yeah, I'm really just concerned about your health," but they know nothing about these people. So how much of it is really that we "We want everyone to be healthy!" and how much of it is, "I don't want to see fat people"? I've even had a (slender) doctor tell me to my face, "I can tell just by looking at you that you have high blood pressure." (He was wrong, it's normal.) So I wonder what kind of assumptions everyone makes -- that you're unhealthy and you need to be told to lose weight?
I've struggled with my weight all my life, but I've found that I eat most when I'm stressed or emotional. I eat as a way to self-soothe and I'm working on doing things differently now that I'm older and hopefully wiser. Why can't we address this if we really want to stop people eating when they're not hungry or teach them new coping skills?
Sorry, just on my mind today.
c.
First, that doctor you went to see is a real jerk-off. Second, I agree completely to an extent. Almost every over-weight person I have met (including myself at one point) was/is a emotional eater. The two common emotions are when people are stressed/depressed and (for me) when people are bored. Healthy eating should really be a focus in our society, but appropriate coping skills should be as well.
With this I'd like to bring up a few other things I have noticed that society and the world loves to do.
1.) Has anyone else noticed that clothing stores are making their clothes smaller???
2.) If obesity is such a epidemic right now, why is organic food, fruits and veggies are expensive but I can buy a box of little debbies for 1.50???0
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