Low carb or Low calorie
tinaalvarado29
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I have been on a low calorie diet for about 3 weeks I read alot of articles.on low carb diets.on mfp.People keep saying as long has you are in deficit you will lose weight but I'm a.little confused on that do the year if I burn more calories than I eat then I will lose.im not active at all I have fibromyalgia and bursitis in both hips and when I try to exercise I pay for the next three or four days down cuz I hurt so much. So I'm wondering if I should switch to a low carb diet any input would be greatly appreciated.
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If you want to
But you don't have to
It's just a way to hit your calorie defecit that suits some people
Not me cos it makes me crash and burn but some find it easy and are able to stick to it0 -
CICO (calories in vs calories out). Burn more than you take in and you will lose. Consume more than you burn and you will gain. Its simple. Low carb is just restricting carbohydrates which can lead to temporary losses, but typically most people will return to eating a normal diet and regain. Stick to a calorie goal and don't exceed it. Eat whole foods (fruits, veggies, whole grains, lean meats). Drink at least 64oz water daily. Don't complicate it with unnecessary macro restrictions.0
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If you eat fewer calories than you burn (e.g., a calorie deficit), you should lose weight.
Folks pursue low carb food choices for a variety of reasons, but chief among them is stabilizing blood sugar, which can spike with high-carb foods (even so-called "natural" carbs like starches and fruits), and can be risky for folks with diabetes, pre-diabeties, or other disorders associated with fluctuating blood sugar and metabolism.
I try to avoid heavily processed carbs (e.g., bread and baked goods) mostly because I'd rather "spend" the calories on something with more protein or fiber in it. So I'll eat an omelet crammed with veggies for breakfast rather than toast, for example, because for the same 200 calories I feel like I've eaten more if I eat the veggie omelet. Similarly, I'll opt for a huge broccoli slaw salad with some tunafish and a little spicy wasabi dressing over a tunafish sandwich because I feel more satisfied eating a huge pile of salad than I do "spending" my calories on one measley piece of bread.
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tinaalvarado29 wrote: »I have been on a low calorie diet for about 3 weeks I read alot of articles.on low carb diets.on mfp.People keep saying as long has you are in deficit you will lose weight but I'm a.little confused on that do the year if I burn more calories than I eat then I will lose.im not active at all I have fibromyalgia and bursitis in both hips and when I try to exercise I pay for the next three or four days down cuz I hurt so much. So I'm wondering if I should switch to a low carb diet any input would be greatly appreciated.
There are a number of people who have experienced significant reduction of inflammatory pain on low carb diets - bursitis is an inflammatory pain; I'm not sure about fibromyalgia since it is usually the remainder diagnosis after they rule everything else out.
If you are solely asking about weight loss, as long as you eat a calorie deficit it doesn't matter. Eating low carb makes it easier for a number of people who struggle with hunger and cravings on a low calorie diet to stick to eating at a calorie deficit.0 -
rosebarnalice wrote: »If you eat fewer calories than you burn (e.g., a calorie deficit), you should lose weight.
Folks pursue low carb food choices for a variety of reasons, but chief among them is stabilizing blood sugar, which can spike with high-carb foods (even so-called "natural" carbs like starches and fruits), and can be risky for folks with diabetes, pre-diabeties, or other disorders associated with fluctuating blood sugar and metabolism.
I try to avoid heavily processed carbs (e.g., bread and baked goods) mostly because I'd rather "spend" the calories on something with more protein or fiber in it. So I'll eat an omelet crammed with veggies for breakfast rather than toast, for example, because for the same 200 calories I feel like I've eaten more if I eat the veggie omelet. Similarly, I'll opt for a huge broccoli slaw salad with some tunafish and a little spicy wasabi dressing over a tunafish sandwich because I feel more satisfied eating a huge pile of salad than I do "spending" my calories on one measley piece of bread.
Ok so if I'm eating low calorie but I'm not exercising them I'm not burning any calories I'm I right then I wont lose weight0 -
Low carb is just one of many ways of possibly creating a calorie deficiency to lose weight...all diets work on the same principle...you consume fewer calories than you burn. When people say "burn" they're not just talking about the calories you burn with exercise...you burn calories 24/7...just being alive and doing nothing else burns more calories than anything you do.0
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tinaalvarado29 wrote: »rosebarnalice wrote: »If you eat fewer calories than you burn (e.g., a calorie deficit), you should lose weight.
Folks pursue low carb food choices for a variety of reasons, but chief among them is stabilizing blood sugar, which can spike with high-carb foods (even so-called "natural" carbs like starches and fruits), and can be risky for folks with diabetes, pre-diabeties, or other disorders associated with fluctuating blood sugar and metabolism.
I try to avoid heavily processed carbs (e.g., bread and baked goods) mostly because I'd rather "spend" the calories on something with more protein or fiber in it. So I'll eat an omelet crammed with veggies for breakfast rather than toast, for example, because for the same 200 calories I feel like I've eaten more if I eat the veggie omelet. Similarly, I'll opt for a huge broccoli slaw salad with some tunafish and a little spicy wasabi dressing over a tunafish sandwich because I feel more satisfied eating a huge pile of salad than I do "spending" my calories on one measley piece of bread.
Ok so if I'm eating low calorie but I'm not exercising them I'm not burning any calories I'm I right then I wont lose weight
You burn calories every day just by being alive. As long as you consume fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight. You can do this without any exercise.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »tinaalvarado29 wrote:Ok so if I'm eating low calorie but I'm not exercising them I'm not burning any calories I'm I right then I wont lose weight
You burn calories every day just by being alive. As long as you consume fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight. You can do this without any exercise.
In MFP, if you set your activity level to "sedentary", it will estimate your "Total Daily Energy Expenditure" or (TDEE) assuming you are not exercising. Depending on your weight, height, and age, that can easily be 1700-2000 calories per day--WITHOUT added exercise. So you eat less than that TDEE, and you should lose weight
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I lost weight very easily in the past on a low-carb diet and I was never hungry. I maintained for a long time afterwards just doing a moderate calorie intake compared to calorie burn. Last fall I started eating more (of everything, but especially carbs!) and I quickly gained 18 lbs. I have watched my diet since new years and I have only lost 2 pounds. Today, I am going back on a low-carb diet to see if that will jump-start my weight loss.
It IS all a matter of calories-in vs. calories-out. I find it easier and more satisfying to couple that with low-carb, high-fat/protein.0 -
It's actually surprising how few of one's daily calories are from exercise, compared to how many are just from being alive.
Say, for me, my bmr (basal metabolic rate, how many calories my body needs just to keep me ticking over) is 1280
Then, say, I'm completely sedentary, I get an extra 192, taking it to 1472
Exercise may give me a few hundred on top of that (well, personally, quite a few hundred, as I'm very active), but nowhere near what my actual bmr is.
And yes, as others have said, carbs don't change the cico formula. Some people find low carb diets easier to maintain in conjunction with calorie deficits, but the only weigh to lose weight is to get that calorie defecit. Personally, I love carbs
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rosebarnalice wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »tinaalvarado29 wrote:Ok so if I'm eating low calorie but I'm not exercising them I'm not burning any calories I'm I right then I wont lose weight
You burn calories every day just by being alive. As long as you consume fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight. You can do this without any exercise.
In MFP, if you set your activity level to "sedentary", it will estimate your "Total Daily Energy Expenditure" or (TDEE) assuming you are not exercising. Depending on your weight, height, and age, that can easily be 1700-2000 calories per day--WITHOUT added exercise. So you eat less than that TDEE, and you should lose weight
Ok I understand when I put all my info it put calories at 1200 so that's what iv been eating I started at 238 and I'm 5'4 I'm now at 230 but I have been there for about 5 days so I guess doing ok I think0 -
Give your diet a chance, 3 weeks isn't a lot of time to notice much. If you continue to struggle then yeah try something else but keep in mind low carb does not mean you don't have to count calories, you still do. The difference is you're eating more fats and protein instead of carbs, and it's meant to keep you fuller for longer.
Do whichever works best!0 -
I am on high carb and lost weight just fine.
just weigh ALL your food on a food scale. Count and log your calories. Create a deficit.
And eat now ( in moderation and portion control) how you want to eat later when you are at your goal weight. (if you dont have any issues with certain food groups)
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I'm on a high fat, low carb diet and I'm losing weight. In fact, I can eat ~2500 calories a day (from fat and protein) and I still lose weight.0
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If you are interested in following a LCHF way of eating (WOE), I suggest you check out the following main low carber forum group in MFP. It's where most of us Ketofiles hang out:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
I find that being active is the ONLY way to manage fibro. I started with swimming in a warm water pool three times/week and built up my activity level from there over several years. I still try to limit myself to two hours of exercise/day because I tend to flare if I do too much. I also alternate high and low-impact activities. Stress and extreme heat/cold still cause me to flare occasionally, but most of the time I am able to be active now.
For me, a lower-carb diet is necessary for medical reasons not related to fibro...but I wonder if it is something that has been helping...
In other words, I don't know if it would be beneficial for you, but it might be worth trying.0 -
Thank you everyone for your input and advise0
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I have been on the LCHF/ketogenic diet for 2 months. I have lost 21lbs. My blood sugar levels are so level I no longer take meds for diabetes. So essentially this diet cured my diabetes. And my obesity:) I feel great! I am not hungry. As long as you eat enough fat you will not have to be hungry. The low calorie/low fat diets always fail because people are starving!0
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Low calorie or low carb?
Neither. Eat plants and grains (fruit, vegetables, legumes, and whole grains) in abundance and not only will you drop weight but your body can begin to heal itself of a bevy of issues. Plus, this diet is friendly to your heart, kidneys, colon, and immune system
I know most people are not comfortable without "eating with caloric restrictions" but whole plants and grains are low calorie, nutrient dense foods; the fiber will fill your gut - so you will reach a point of fullness / satiety and caloric restrictions are not a concern. Despite you eating the same volume of food (by weight), whole plants and grains will result in less caloric impact
Resources (short list, google each for more info)
- Dr. Ornish Dean
- Dr. Esselstyn (Cleveland Clic)
- Dr. Campbell
- Dr. Gregor
- Dr. McGregor / Nutritionfacts dot org
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I have been on the LCHF/ketogenic diet for 2 months. I have lost 21lbs. My blood sugar levels are so level I no longer take meds for diabetes. So essentially this diet cured my diabetes. And my obesity:) I feel great! I am not hungry. As long as you eat enough fat you will not have to be hungry. The low calorie/low fat diets always fail because people are starving!
I think myself and the large number of people who have lost weight calorie counting without starving ourselves would take exception to your last sentence.
Low carb is a fantastic tool for a lot of people, however the only reason you lost weight was due to reducing your calorie intake regardless of whether you were counting them or not.0 -
I have been on the LCHF/ketogenic diet for 2 months. I have lost 21lbs. My blood sugar levels are so level I no longer take meds for diabetes. So essentially this diet cured my diabetes. And my obesity:) I feel great! I am not hungry. As long as you eat enough fat you will not have to be hungry. The low calorie/low fat diets always fail because people are starving!
Losing weight improved your health markers not your specific way of hitting a calorie defecit
Great that you found a method that works for you be you can stick to. Great that you are losing weight and improving your health. I pretty sure that one cannot be cured of diabetes though unfortunately. Rather like asthma, I have been mainly symptom free through getting my weight under control with calorie control but am still and always will have asthma on my med records.
Your final sentence is ridiculous ...calorie control is how one loses weight whatever the method and whether it is conscious or not. I'm personally believe that severe restriction of food groups can be harder to stick with long term and IME low carb / keto plans made me crash and burn and I got the greatest weight upswings of all after falling off those WOE wagons0 -
I love low carb diets. I feel better and not always hungry. My doctor told me that now they are discovering that low carb is the way to go. I don't remember which heart institute came out with a study but I think it was John Hopkins that fat and cholesterol is not the cause of plaque build up and heart disease. Sugar is.0
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bellabonbons wrote: »I love low carb diets. I feel better and not always hungry. My doctor told me that now they are discovering that low carb is the way to go. I don't remember which heart institute came out with a study but I think it was John Hopkins that fat and cholesterol is not the cause of plaque build up and heart disease. Sugar is.
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I have been on the LCHF/ketogenic diet for 2 months. I have lost 21lbs. My blood sugar levels are so level I no longer take meds for diabetes. So essentially this diet cured my diabetes. And my obesity:) I feel great! I am not hungry. As long as you eat enough fat you will not have to be hungry. The low calorie/low fat diets always fail because people are starving!
Losing weight improved your health markers not your specific way of hitting a calorie defecit
Although of course the evidence shows differential effects based on dietary composition and improvements in blood glucose way faster than can be explained by weight loss :
from http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.516.4496&rep=rep1&type=pdf using calorie deficit with 20% carbohydrate intervention vs 60% in controls. Obese Swedish diabetics. Group followed up in other papers to 44 months.0 -
I am starting to gravitate towards a lower carb approach mainly because of the calorie content in carbs. So I eat more veggies and fewer fruit. Eggs for breakfast instead of polenta. But no, I'm not upping my fat calories.0
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I did lower carb for a while and yes lost weight, but than my weight lose stalled and I ended up gaining 10 lbs back. I switched up my food and now eat a high carb, low fat diet and keep my calories were they should be and in a few weeks I lost what I put back on and have been losing weight every week since. You don't need to eat low carb to lose weight. I also find since I did this, I no longer crave foods, like salt, chocolate, caffeine etc and I only eat when I am hungry and have no problem stopping when I am full.0
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bellabonbons wrote: »I love low carb diets. I feel better and not always hungry. My doctor told me that now they are discovering that low carb is the way to go. I don't remember which heart institute came out with a study but I think it was John Hopkins that fat and cholesterol is not the cause of plaque build up and heart disease. Sugar is.
So whole natural foods are bad and dead flesh is good? I found this and it sounds like they are trying to find a new drug to help people with high cholesterol purge it out. If this article is for real? I will keep looking for this sugar causes cholesterol info. But I really don't think I will find it. http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/johns_hopkins_scientists_alter_fat_metabolism_in_animals_to_prevent_most_common_type_of_heart_disease0 -
bellabonbons wrote: »I don't remember which heart institute came out with a study but I think it was John Hopkins that fat and cholesterol is not the cause of plaque build up and heart disease. Sugar is.
Sorry but this is absolute insanity...0
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