No posts about alcohol consumption on here?
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Lost muscle can be rebuilt ... lost brain cells cannot.0
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drinking to the point of blacking out means that first, you need help with a drinking problem, then, you can work on your weight...your drinking problem is a "confounding variable" that will prevent you from making long term sustainable changes to your weight (among many other things)...seek professional or group/community help for your drinking, come back to us later.
Everyone's got "problems".0 -
I assume you are drinking hard liquor. While obviously you can get black out drunk on beer its harder because of the pure volume of liquid you have to consume especially with the mass market beers that rypically have lower alcohol content than microbrews. Your stomach just can't handle the volume.
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Plenty of posts about alcohol and weight loss.
I drank until I blacked out last month. I had passed out before, but never did things I didn't remember. I didn't dance on tables- few people even noticed. But, it scared me. I had to ask my husband about what happened.
I am taking a long break from drinking.
I am not sure what you are looking for.0 -
Splitbygreg wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »And people say sugar is the devil. <shakes head>
They can both kill you unfortunately.
Never known anyone to get a DUI for sugar.0 -
Splitbygreg wrote: »drinking to the point of blacking out means that first, you need help with a drinking problem, then, you can work on your weight...your drinking problem is a "confounding variable" that will prevent you from making long term sustainable changes to your weight (among many other things)...seek professional or group/community help for your drinking, come back to us later.
Everyone's got "problems".
Not all problems are equal.0 -
And I would be extremely concerned for someone who has blacked out from over-consumption of alcohol two or three times in their lifetime.
But two or three times a week?
Dude, please get help.0 -
Splitbygreg wrote: »drinking to the point of blacking out means that first, you need help with a drinking problem, then, you can work on your weight...your drinking problem is a "confounding variable" that will prevent you from making long term sustainable changes to your weight (among many other things)...seek professional or group/community help for your drinking, come back to us later.
Everyone's got "problems".
Doesn't mean we can't work on our problems though.
Although you don't seem to think your drinking is a problem.0 -
You could try drinking non-alcoholic beer/drinks at a party and see if you feel tipsy as you see other people getting drunk. I do this often at my friends' parties and it's surprisingly fun. Don't knock it 'til you try it.0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »NaturallyandProperly wrote: »Splitbygreg wrote: »Am I the only one who blacks out each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? This of course ruining everything I've done in the gym and the kitchen for the last 6 days? Any pointers, tips, ideas, etc?
Obviously you need a deficit to loose weight. SO if you log your drinks, you probably won't be able to eat anything in order to get that deficit. So, technically, you could drink a lot but I think it will be hard to have the energy to workout. I drink - but I log my drinks. 6 beer is 900 calories, thats a lot of food I could have had to replenish my body. Anyway, good luck on your journey.. hopefully you can focus more on healthy habits as you get older. A close family member of mine now has an enlarged heart surrounded by fluid... and she's only 35...from alcoholism and she's been sober for 3 months (in rehab). Could be fatal... but you don't need to know about that. Everyone here has already said their part. Log ahead of time - curious to know how many calories you consume for those 3 days.
It's gotta be a lot of calories, Prob about 2400 cals a day. I have still managed to lose a percent or so of body fat each week since I started cutting. The goal is to get to 9% at about 15% now so we shall see. So monitoring the consumption I'm hoping does the trick. I have no doubt I'll still run a surplus 1 or 2 of those days tho. Sorry to hear about your family member. I'll pray she's okay.
Your posts are getting even more absurd. There is no reason to have 9% body fat unless you are a top level elite endurance athlete.0 -
Plenty of posts about alcohol and weight loss.
I drank until I blacked out last month. I had passed out before, but never did things I didn't remember. I didn't dance on tables- few people even noticed. But, it scared me. I had to ask my husband about what happened.
I am taking a long break from drinking.
I am not sure what you are looking for.
I'm becoming convinced that he is just trolling.0 -
For the OP, I just happened upon this and thought it might be worth reading. (It's not anti drinking, but a way to think through your own drinking choices and health and fitness goals, from a site with pretty reliable information.)
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/quit-drinking0 -
I've never blacked out, but I have felt like drinking halts progress for me fitness wise. I LOVE a good dark beer with some froth on top...love it. But when I decide to not drink, I don't drink. The entire month of January I didn't drink because I wanted to go a month without for *kitten* and giggles. and since then I've only had one beer. If you're blacking out you need to seek help professionally.0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »Am I the only one who blacks out each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? This of course ruining everything I've done in the gym and the kitchen for the last 6 days? Any pointers, tips, ideas, etc?
Ummm.. how many days are in your week?0 -
Chrishartman1979 wrote: »Splitbygreg wrote: »Am I the only one who blacks out each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? This of course ruining everything I've done in the gym and the kitchen for the last 6 days? Any pointers, tips, ideas, etc?
Dude, your 26 years old. I was at that point once in my life. Take it from someone who has been there. If you cant drink in moderation you may want to stop completely. Binge drinking is not a good habit to have. I have been struggling myself since I have turned 21 (I am now 36). I was the "fun" drunk so I it was almost expected of me when me and my friends went out. I wish I could go back in time and tell my younger self to think about where I wanted to be in 5-10 years.
Some people can go out and have a glass of wine at dinner and that's fine....Once I start the party, it doesn't stop. Then I start making bad decisions. And, once you get older. You don't bounce back. A three day hangover is not fun.
You have to make a choice man. If you are trying to be healthy, quit completely. Hang out with other people who are sober. Try to do things in social circles that does not involve drinking. The sooner you do it, the better everything in your life will be.
If you are going to the gym during the week and then ruining it on the weekends that's pretty self destructive. Not trying to be a buzzkill. Just trying to help a fella out. Good luck.
This is great advice here. So great. There are many things people can do that are legitimately fun that don't include drinking. Hiking, going up to the snow in the mountain and dinking around, swimming, running, cooking...anyway, once you get some time under your belt with no alcohol you realize there' a LOT more out there to do.0 -
I blacked out once. It was a terrifying experience that I vowed never to repeat. I have no idea why you'd want to do it three days a week.0
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OP switch to tequila, I read something on the internet about it helping with weight loss
http://www.delish.com/food-news/a45297/drinking-tequila-can-help-you-lose-weight/
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lemurcat12 wrote: »For the OP, I just happened upon this and thought it might be worth reading. (It's not anti drinking, but a way to think through your own drinking choices and health and fitness goals, from a site with pretty reliable information.)
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/quit-drinking
Interesting:
Definitions vary around the world, but according to the United States Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, “moderate drinking” means, on average:- For women: up to seven drinks per week, with no more than three drinks on any single day
- For men: up to 14 drinks per week, with no more than four drinks on any single day
*Particularly if there’s alcoholism in your family **If drinking causes you to eat more food or opt for energy-dense meals0 -
A great AA saying which ill make PG for the website is "alcoholism is like a having sex with a 300 pound gorilla, its done until its done with you."0
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kshama2001 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »For the OP, I just happened upon this and thought it might be worth reading. (It's not anti drinking, but a way to think through your own drinking choices and health and fitness goals, from a site with pretty reliable information.)
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/quit-drinking
Interesting:
Definitions vary around the world, but according to the United States Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, “moderate drinking” means, on average:- For women: up to seven drinks per week, with no more than three drinks on any single day
- For men: up to 14 drinks per week, with no more than four drinks on any single day
*Particularly if there’s alcoholism in your family **If drinking causes you to eat more food or opt for energy-dense meals
Wow I personally would think I was drinking a lot if I was drinking seven drinks a week! But I also only drink like three drinks a month.0 -
Splitbygreg wrote: »Am I the only one who blacks out each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? This of course ruining everything I've done in the gym and the kitchen for the last 6 days? Any pointers, tips, ideas, etc?
It is easy to pile on the OP, but what he does is not unusual for a lot of people. I'm not defending it or saying it is right. Culturally, I am from a very hard drinking Irish family and started drinking at a very young age because no one paid any attention and alcohol was everywhere. My teens, 20s, and a lot of my 30s were filled with daily drinking and binging weekends. Even into my 40s, there are a few times a year when I lapse back into it, but my power drinking days have just naturally diminished due to competing priorities. SplitbyGreg will reach that point one way or another. In the meantime, perhaps commit to just blacking out 2 days a week instead of 3 and go from there.0 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »Splitbygreg wrote: »Am I the only one who blacks out each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? This of course ruining everything I've done in the gym and the kitchen for the last 6 days? Any pointers, tips, ideas, etc?
It is easy to pile on the OP, but what he does is not unusual for a lot of people. I'm not defending it or saying it is right. Culturally, I am from a very hard drinking Irish family and started drinking at a very young age because no one paid any attention and alcohol was everywhere. My teens, 20s, and a lot of my 30s were filled with daily drinking and binging weekends. Even into my 40s, there are a few times a year when I lapse back into it, but my power drinking days have just naturally diminished due to competing priorities. SplitbyGreg will reach that point one way or another. In the meantime, perhaps commit to just blacking out 2 days a week instead of 3 and go from there.
I think there's a lot of pile on from those of us who have been there, done that, wished we'd stopped sooner.0 -
OP, I think the point people are trying to make here, aside from concern about the amount you're drinking, is that no matter what you do to exercise or eat healthy, it will not matter if you're drinking enough to black out consistently a couple days every week. Doing that will undo any other healthy things you do. So we can't really give you advice on how to balance heavy drinking with healthy habits. Those two simply don't mix.0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »I wouldn't say I 'black out' but I do enjoy my alcohol on weekends too
I don't enjoy having so much that I'm not in control of myself, or that I'd make a fool of myself. So I know my limits for each night.
Right on. I need to find out what number of drinks gets me there, cause I rarely feel drunk...think I breeze right past that feeling haha.
Once upon a time, I was able to maintain a beautiful, glorious buzz all day long. A smooth, heavenly "life is great" wonderful time. Then something happened and I started going from 0 to FUCKKKED UPP before I even knew what happened. That's when the fun stopped.
OP, enjoy your days of blissful denial while they last. Have fun with the partying and fun and craziness. I hope you don't have to go where I went before I had to get honest with myself about my drinking. But I know all this is falling on deaf ears. I don't wish your future on my worse enemy.0 -
Splitbygreg wrote: »Move out of the Midwest. All there is to do when it's this cold is drink.
Or, just keep drinking. For as many anecdotal relatives that have died from drinking in this thread, I know ones that are still alive--and still drinking. Wisconsin blood, perhaps. Alcohol consumption, even out of hand alcohol consumption, isn't a death sentence--though it definitely has that potential. I barely even had hangovers at 26... now it's a two-day recovery minimum for that type of drinking--which is why I plan for the calorie intake and the hangover in advance. Took me years to figure that one out.
Life is short. Yours may likely be shorter because you drink heavily. Figure out what's important to you and make your decisions from there.
That's the problem haha. Lived in Illinois and now Ohio. 4 months out of the year it's friggin Russia. Gah.
Please don't blame the Midwest for being an alcoholic! I have lived in northern Indiana most of my life and I drink on average once a yr. I still hang out with Ppl who drink but, I don't partake because I don't need to. You are 26 please act like it.0 -
Lots of posts about alcohol & water retention, alcohol & calorie budgets, alcohol & extra snacking, alcohol & holidays... very few about blackout binge drinking. One of these things is not like the others. Get some help with this.0
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Check out stopdrinking sub on reddit, its an eye opener. Lots of info there.0
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Probably not a huge help for OP, but when I'm trying to reduce the calories I intake but still enjoy a drink with friends or colleagues, I avoid draft beer and drink either scotch or gin and soda. My bigger problem than drinking is the terrible food that alcohol is the gateway to eating!0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »Splitbygreg wrote: »I wouldn't say I 'black out' but I do enjoy my alcohol on weekends too I don't enjoy having so much that I'm not in control of myself, or that I'd make a fool of myself. So I know my limits for each night.
Right on. I need to find out what number of drinks gets me there, cause I rarely feel drunk...think I breeze right past that feeling haha.
Perhaps this would be a slightly better science experiment: For the next outing or few, try to pace yourself, maybe drink water heavily alongside the alcohol to minimize the dehydration, and strive to consciously assess how you feel and behave at each stage. Perhaps you can find a point that is still "fun", but not quite so self-destructive.
And I still think there's some denial in your responses. You say your main desire is aesthetic - I assume you mean you want to look good/attractive. Be aware that your body is accumulating the insults in some respects, only to display them externally later. By that time, they may not be fully reversible (wrinkling, general skin quality like youthful elasticity, etc.). Next time you're at a bar, look around you. Chat to some guys who are on your path but are 5 or 10 years older (chat so you can maybe really learn their age). The results could be sobering, literally.
Your first paragraph I like and plan on trying. The second one sounds too morbid, I'm not trying to talk to wrinkly dudes at a bar to *kitten* my life. I do know continual heavy drinking will lead to serious health effects tho...unfortunately.
Actually, my point was not that it will lead to serious health effects (it will, but you don't seem to care about that). My point was that it will make you ugly, unattractive, and old before your time . . . which does seem to conflict with your apparent objectives.0 -
Splitbygreg is very likely pulling your chains. In genereal, people trying to lose weight are pretty uptight, and this group is no exception. If Greg is serious, we are in no position to help. If he's not, and for anyone else's benefit, diet is the best way to manage weight. A bad diet (excess booze) is REALLY hard to overcome in the gym. I find that limiting booze leads to managing diet much easier, which results in a much more successful weight loss. Playing hard, then working hard in the gym simply hasn't had the same positve results for me.0
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