DEXA Scan Shock

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Over the past 5 1/2 months, I've lost about 50 lbs. My scale showed a BF drop from 28% down to 19%. I know that bio-impedance is not an ideal method of measuring BF% so I decided to get a DEXA scan to get a more accurate reading, expecting to hear something around 20-25%. Imagine my shock when the result was 31.7%! I recognize that I may have lost a little more LBM that I should have due to not eating back exercise calories (I do eat up to the non-exercise goals) and am pure cardio (I'm a triathlete) as opposed to a weights/cardio mix. But I still have trouble believing the number. My BMI is just inside the normal range (6', 180 lbs) and I have trouble reconciling the BF with the workout results I am getting in terms of performance.

Thoughts? Should I get a second opinion with a different form of measurement, like a body pod?
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  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,464 Member
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    I would be happy with my workout results and try another method in 6 months. I guess it depends on how important it is to you for the $$.
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,483 Member
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    There is a recent post that had a link to the inaccuracy of all ways of estimating body fat barring a post death procedure.
    Go by your happiness during your tri performance/training, and how satisfied you are with your body. No one ever asks your bf%, and if they do tell them they will have to wait until you are dead.

    I know it is a disappointing number, but hey, I'd be more pleased with dropping my excess weight and being able to compete in triathlons.

    Cheers, h.
  • thunder1982
    thunder1982 Posts: 280 Member
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    To be honest I would have been suprised by the 28% with needing to lose 50pds but you are heaps taller than me so that probably makes a difference.

    Have you looked at pictures online of people at different body fat %. I use scales at home which show body fat but I have also looked at heaps those sites and I reckon that my scales are in the ballpark as my body looks like the photos and description for the BF% reading I get.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
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    i'd like to see a picture.

    I'm not doubting the dexa, just curious since it's usually pretty easy to verify by a quick look.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    rainbowbow wrote: »
    i'd like to see a picture.

    I'm not doubting the dexa, just curious since it's usually pretty easy to verify by a quick look.

    This.
  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
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    I got flabby when I was Ironman training. Hours and hours of steady state cardio is not where it's at if you want low body fat.
    https://www.t-nation.com/training/death-of-steady-state-cardio
  • Trump2016
    Trump2016 Posts: 80 Member
    edited February 2016
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    BMI is useless when considering body fat % because it doesn't account for how the weight is distributed.

    I can easily imagine a 6' 180 man with more than a fair share of fat. I know plenty of runners your height or taller who are ~155-165 pounds with 7-12% fat.

    Do you look like the ~30% fat men depicted in the following pics?

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    pictures-of-body-fat-percentages.jpg

  • JayDam1
    JayDam1 Posts: 37 Member
    edited February 2016
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    How important is it to know your BF%?

    If you are happy, then why spend the money?

    I certainly find knowing my BF% interesting, but the mirror tells me my progress more than the scale.

    Edit: Also, it is not unusual for many people to underestimate their BF%. I've seen plenty of people, even athletes be off from reality by 5-10%
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
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    JayDam1 wrote: »
    How important is it to know your BF%?

    If you are happy, then why spend the money?

    I certainly find knowing my BF% interesting, but the mirror tells me my progress more than the scale.

    Edit: Also, it is not unusual for many people to underestimate their BF%. I've seen plenty of people, even athletes be off from reality by 5-10%

    Agreed.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 13,640 Member
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    First of all, forget your scale. It is worse than useless in that it actually encourages people to believe it has something of use to say when in reality it doesn't.

    Your DXA scan would have given you a detailed analysis about your various body parts and ratios. Do these match with what you see on yourself? How close do you match the pictures previously posted?

    From BMI the expectation would be a fat % in the 23-26% range. Were you glycogen depleted when you showed up for your scan?

    Have you had your height measured recently or is your 6ft assumption based on measurements when you were younger? is 180lbs correct? What was your weight as per the DXA scan?

    If you suspect that the DXA scan is incorrect, you could double check as to when the machine was last calibrated, and explore whether they would be willing to rescan.

    Though, again, as other than curiosity, the fat % number has little meaning by itself assuming other goals are met.
  • AnabolicKyle
    AnabolicKyle Posts: 489 Member
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    OP

    Please start a lifting program!!!
  • richardgavel
    richardgavel Posts: 1,001 Member
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    The reason I was looking for an accurate body fat percentage was suggestions that a recomp should wait until you reach 15% and that you need to get to a similar point to see elimination of man boobs. So I was trying to gauge progress towards reaching that point.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    The reason I was looking for an accurate body fat percentage was suggestions that a recomp should wait until you reach 15% and that you need to get to a similar point to see elimination of man boobs. So I was trying to gauge progress towards reaching that point.

    Post photos, preferrably from different angles (front back and side) flexed and unflexed and people will probably be able to give you a better idea of where you stand.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    The reason I was looking for an accurate body fat percentage was suggestions that a recomp should wait until you reach 15% and that you need to get to a similar point to see elimination of man boobs. So I was trying to gauge progress towards reaching that point.

    If you've got man boobs, then (as you can see in the pictures Trump2016 posted) then 30% sounds about right.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
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    Over the past 5 1/2 months, I've lost about 50 lbs. My scale showed a BF drop from 28% down to 19%. I know that bio-impedance is not an ideal method of measuring BF% so I decided to get a DEXA scan to get a more accurate reading, expecting to hear something around 20-25%. Imagine my shock when the result was 31.7%! I recognize that I may have lost a little more LBM that I should have due to not eating back exercise calories (I do eat up to the non-exercise goals) and am pure cardio (I'm a triathlete) as opposed to a weights/cardio mix. But I still have trouble believing the number. My BMI is just inside the normal range (6', 180 lbs) and I have trouble reconciling the BF with the workout results I am getting in terms of performance.

    Thoughts? Should I get a second opinion with a different form of measurement, like a body pod?

    Unless you look like you just got out of a concentration camp, your numbers are way off. At your weight, 31.7% fat would give you a lean body mass of 122 lbs. At 6'1" that would be something I have never seen before in over 10,000 body fat tests. Avg LBM for someone your height is in the 140s.



  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,372 Member
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    Azdak wrote: »
    Over the past 5 1/2 months, I've lost about 50 lbs. My scale showed a BF drop from 28% down to 19%. I know that bio-impedance is not an ideal method of measuring BF% so I decided to get a DEXA scan to get a more accurate reading, expecting to hear something around 20-25%. Imagine my shock when the result was 31.7%! I recognize that I may have lost a little more LBM that I should have due to not eating back exercise calories (I do eat up to the non-exercise goals) and am pure cardio (I'm a triathlete) as opposed to a weights/cardio mix. But I still have trouble believing the number. My BMI is just inside the normal range (6', 180 lbs) and I have trouble reconciling the BF with the workout results I am getting in terms of performance.

    Thoughts? Should I get a second opinion with a different form of measurement, like a body pod?

    Unless you look like you just got out of a concentration camp, your numbers are way off. At your weight, 31.7% fat would give you a lean body mass of 122 lbs. At 6'1" that would be something I have never seen before in over 10,000 body fat tests. Avg LBM for someone your height is in the 140s.



    Yeah it's just odd.

    I don't know much about man boobs but it probably doesn't mean much... like everything else, everyone doesn't lose from the same place at same time.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
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    Trump2016 wrote: »
    BMI is useless when considering body fat % because it doesn't account for how the weight is distributed.

    I can easily imagine a 6' 180 man with more than a fair share of fat. I know plenty of runners your height or taller who are ~155-165 pounds with 7-12% fat.

    Do you look like the ~30% fat men depicted in the following pics?

    menbodyfat2.jpg
    59Men+Fat.jpg
    /5d6f59ac9b627a007e584ff60e9c1f50.jpg
    pictures-of-body-fat-percentages.jpg


    A 155lb runner with 7% body fat will still have a lean body mass of 144. Per OP's numbers, his LBM is 122lb.

    So, no.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    Post a picture. I'm having trouble in my head picturing a 6'0 180 man at 32% BF. I'd question the results...
  • richardgavel
    richardgavel Posts: 1,001 Member
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    Here are a couple pictures. What do you think?
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  • Erik8484
    Erik8484 Posts: 458 Member
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    30%ish seems reasonable tbh. Keep working at it, Rome wasn't built in a day, and you sound like you've made great progress so far :)