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Help my Keto friend. Say NO to egg fasting
Expatmommy79
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I'm part of a mommy group that are all keto. I am not but enjoy the comraderie.
One of the ladies has started an egg fast. 5 days of eggs only.
It sounds hideous. It's from the IBIH site.
Help me explain at least to the others why this is a bad idea. Apparently you can loose 4-6 pounds in that time and you only put a little back on and then you keep loosing as before. It's supposed to break a stall.
Help me understand the science why this is WOO? I'm worried she will have splendid results and the rest of the flock will start doing the same.
One of the ladies has started an egg fast. 5 days of eggs only.
It sounds hideous. It's from the IBIH site.
Help me explain at least to the others why this is a bad idea. Apparently you can loose 4-6 pounds in that time and you only put a little back on and then you keep loosing as before. It's supposed to break a stall.
Help me understand the science why this is WOO? I'm worried she will have splendid results and the rest of the flock will start doing the same.
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Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.0
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This is keto, and is designed to be LCHF. And it is really not just all eggs.
The way I understand it is consuming not just eggs but incorporating HIGH fat which does include eggs, butter (or other pure and healthy fat like olive oil or coconut oil), cheese, and maybe condiments like hot sauce, mustard, etc. And bulletproof coffee. The egg fast ratio is to eat 1 Tbsp of fat for each egg consumed and up to 1 oz cheese for each egg consumed. You things like string cheese, cream cheese, etc..
This really is just a short way to make your LCHF diet easier for 5 days and take the guess work out the diet IMHO and you do get to eat something different than eggs for dinner that is still LCHF.
If you are already keto, the better a person will handle this and if you are not, then the carb flu may happen and the carb flu is hard to get through. This is not VLCD.
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There's enough nutrition in an egg to make a chick but I don't know if it's complete enough for an adult human. Personally I think you can do practically anything for 5 days within reason.
If she were to eat say 1000 cals from a dozen eggs then there would be a reasonable sized carb free calorie deficit to create weight loss. If she's already keto there shouldn't be much of a water loss to regain.
It's eggs butter and cheese apparently, plus condiments http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2014/07/egg-fast-diet-menu-plan-low-carb-keto.html0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.
My profile picture is him with a mouse head shopped on top.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.
My profile picture is him with a mouse head shopped on top.
You should try to shop his food pyramid into the background.0 -
Sounds eggstreme - I hope you're yolking.2
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icemaiden37 wrote: »Sounds eggstreme - I hope you're yolking.
Thread closed, as far as I'm concerned. Good work here.0 -
icemaiden37 wrote: »Sounds eggstreme - I hope you're yolking.
You crack me up.2 -
stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.
That's super importantly hilarious!
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stevencloser wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.
My profile picture is him with a mouse head shopped on top.
I've always wondered about that!
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icemaiden37 wrote: »Sounds eggstreme - I hope you're yolking.
Thread closed, as far as I'm concerned. Good work here.
This thread will be a shell of its former glory after this.1 -
I don't think it's healthy, but I also think 5 days of a dumb diet plan isn't going to have any significant harm and that if it's really unsustainable most people will just quit. The biggest danger to me is that it would ruin eggs.0
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I agree with this. I don't think 5 days is going to completely ruin anyone.lemurcat12 wrote: »I don't think it's healthy, but I also think 5 days of a dumb diet plan isn't going to have any significant harm and that if it's really unsustainable most people will just quit. The biggest danger to me is that it would ruin eggs.
That being said, I'm not a fan of mono-meal type diets. Most people give up because it gets extremely boring or they get hungry - probably because they're not eating enough due to how unappealing and boring their selection (or lack thereof) is. Watermelon island, banana island, egg fasting, potato cleanse, etc, etc. Rarely does one type of food meet all your micro-nutrient requirements either. But, 5 days isn't a lifetime I suppose. I'd be more worried about meeting caloric requirements and what such a diet does to a person's mindset.0 -
although kind of silly I see no reason it would be bad. I think it needs to include some fibrous veggies, or just fibre in general though. I eat many many eggs myself.0
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I would barf. I like eggs. But not that many. Yuuuuccckkk!
Also if it includes that much cheese... I'd poop a lot too. But that's my problem hahah.0 -
First of all, eeeeewwwww. Her poor family.
Second, I would definitely not participate, as an egg fast would certainly put me in the hospital in anaphylactic shock if it didn't kill me. Everything can be bad for somebody.
An egg fast is a silly idea, and it's certainly woo because it's not specifically the eggs causing the "magic". But it's unlikely that you're going to change her mind, and she probably won't die or suffer serious injury from it. Live and let live. They figure it out or they don't.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.
My profile picture is him with a mouse head shopped on top.
I've always wondered about that!
See there once was a mouse in our gym. It's a bit out of town, close to some farmland, so that's not too weird. My friends and I ended up imagining the mouse using the equipment when no one is around, and this picture came into existence.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Depending on the amount of eggs it might be VLC, most of the weight is going to be water weight because eggs have virtually 0 carbs, it's incredibly bland an unnecessary, I don't know about the micronutrients in an egg but they're unlikely to be complete, the fat in the eggs is probably almost entirely sat fat.
No way, Jeff Seid is yoked and he said you to throw out the egg yoke because that's where the carbs are. He clearly knows what he's talking about because he's more ripped than anyone you'd find at your local gym.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=x1-UDBnRnS4
^ In case you aren't familiar.
My profile picture is him with a mouse head shopped on top.
I've always wondered about that!
See there once was a mouse in our gym. It's a bit out of town, close to some farmland, so that's not too weird. My friends and I ended up imagining the mouse using the equipment when no one is around, and this picture came into existence.
Lol. Reminds me of this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VcSBO8YAnTQ 0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Aren't we made up of like75% water. If so then while your getting smaller tinier waster wouldn't losing some water make sence ??am I the only one who thinks like this
Weight loss almost always involves both fat and non - fat with water included in the latter.0 -
DancingDarl wrote: »Aren't we made up of like75% water. If so then while your getting smaller tinier waster wouldn't losing some water make sence ??am I the only one who thinks like this
Humans are about 70% water by weight depending on the individual. Your fat cells are more like 1 part water for about 8-9 parts triglycerides and fatty acids.
Personally I'm always hoping to increase the percent of me that is water.0 -
She might get bored of eggs. Otherwise, I'm sure she'll be fine. She won't be starving, eggs are filling, and it can't be any worse than the 2 weeks I spent on a cheese and bread fast in Iceland.0
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DancingDarl wrote: »Aren't we made up of like75% water. If so then while your getting smaller tinier waster wouldn't losing some water make sence ??am I the only one who thinks like this
Unfortunately no you aren't the only one who thinks like this
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The gas...omg...0
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The worst 5 days of my life are still the 5 days someone talked me into trying the HCG diet. It felt like a month, not 5 days. It was 5 years ago and I still can't eat asparagus. I used to love asparagus and I made the mistake of eating it almost exclusively as the veg choice for those 5 miserably long days. I became completely obsessed with when I could eat again, portioning things out.
I shouldn't remember how painful 5 measly days on a diet felt with such vivid detail, but I do. Health wise, it's not going to do much for such a short period of time, but I can tell you from experience, she's likely going to hate eggs when it's done and it might come with a slight dose of an eating disorder.
There is no reason to put your body through that torture. CICO and it will come off.
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jennifer_417 wrote: »The gas...omg...
If you didn't live alone when you started, you would by the time you were done!0 -
if you tend to use about 2000 cal a day... 5 eggs is about 400 calories. so for 5 days your calorie defecit is ~1600cal. so over 5 days you can lose (5*1600) = 8000 calories. or 2 lbs of fat. except, it is such an extreme caloric defecit that you won't lose only fat. youll lose muscle too. so you may perhaps lose up to 3lbs of real body mass, a significant portion of which is muscle. the rest of the apparent weight loss will simply be water retention due to the extreme low carb nature of the fast. it will come back slowly even if you resume a low-carb diet.
also, its bland and silly. what is peoples fascination with quick fixes and fasts and cleanses. they don't do anything except unnecessarily tax your willpower and make it that much more miserable to exercise.
what sounds healthier and more sustainable to you, eating nothing but 5 eggs, being sedentary and hating life, or eating a normal diet and going for a 20 minute run every day?0 -
In case anyone was still reading. She didn't last 5 days. Did it for 3 days, got sick of eggs and gave up.
Sigh. But she lost 5 POUNDS in 3 days and RESET her metabolism.
I can't even.0 -
Expatmommy79 wrote: »In case anyone was still reading. She didn't last 5 days. Did it for 3 days, got sick of eggs and gave up.
Sigh. But she lost 5 POUNDS in 3 days and RESET her metabolism.
I can't even.
Check back with her in a couple weeks and see how that 5-pound loss is working for her.0 -
I'm not supporting the egg fast, but just noting that I'm fairly sure eggs are rich in all micro-nutrients, except vitamin C. So that is probably why eggs are the chosen food for this, in addition to being one of the most keto-friendly foods.
Again, I don't think a fast is necessary, but if someone is going to do this, I would recommend a vitamin C supplement.
Also, just to clarify, was it 5 days of just eggs? Or 5 eggs per day?
Because 5 eggs per day is nowhere NEAR enough food energy. But I didn't see that in the OP... just in one of the comments.0
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