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Eating before going to sleep
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It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.
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thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food...
Say what???I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Any scientific research to back up your "formula", or is this all just n=1? I haven't seen you tie this together into anything which makes sense or has anything whatsoever to do with the original topic.0 -
concordancia wrote: »Did you know that in many European countries a 7pm dinner is considered early?
I approve of this.0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
Um, it really shouldn't be that complicated to figure out how to eat to not be hungry and to be satisfied.
I sometimes eat lots of carbs at night and sometimes eat only protein and veg, doesn't matter. My overall diet and habits mean I am not hungry or craving food.0 -
shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
She is just wrong. Multiple scientific studies show that meal timing has little if anything to do with gaining or losing weight. Calorie intake vs energy use (calories out) is what controls weight.
I've eating at all kinds of strange hours since I've been an adult, and it hasn't caused any weight control issues.0 -
Wouldn't that be dependent on the macro nutrient distribution of the meal (high carbs and low fat/protein vs a more balanced meal)? I thought his statement about that in particular is true because excessive blood sugar spikes do increase cortisol. And since a lot of people in general following the typical SAD start their day off with foods like waffles, doughnuts, pastries, cereal (coupled with a sugary drink from, say Starbucks), I thought that made sense.It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.0 -
it's untrue and I blame oprah for starting this popular myth. I remember watching shows where she was a proponent of this idea. and where oprah goes, so do her followers0
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
Wouldn't that be dependent on the macro nutrient distribution of the meal (high carbs and low fat/protein vs a more balanced meal)? I thought his statement about that in particular is true because excessive blood sugar spikes do increase cortisol. And since a lot of people in general following the typical SAD start their day off with foods like waffles, doughnuts, pastries, cereal (coupled with a sugary drink from, say Starbucks), I thought that made sense.It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.
The macronutrition distribution probably plays a part in lowering cortisol. My recollection is that carbs do it more than others, and that a problem for long term ketogenic diets may be high cortisol levels - I recall being blamed by some for causing sleep issues for people. Still, my recollection is that all foods should lower it some extent.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
Wouldn't that be dependent on the macro nutrient distribution of the meal (high carbs and low fat/protein vs a more balanced meal)? I thought his statement about that in particular is true because excessive blood sugar spikes do increase cortisol. And since a lot of people in general following the typical SAD start their day off with foods like waffles, doughnuts, pastries, cereal (coupled with a sugary drink from, say Starbucks), I thought that made sense.It really dependsqueenliz99 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »
I'm sorry, but you're only half right! A calorie deficit IS important for losing weight, but in order to prevent feelings of resentment and self-loathing, you need to eat the right foods to keep you full, or not craving food.
I know this is all confusing, so I've created a simple formula:
Focus on protein for all your meals, start the day with lower carbs, and increase your carbs with each meal.
Why exactly?
Protein keeps you fuller longer, and crushes cravings! If you start the day with high amounts of carbs, you send your blood sugar spiking, increase cortisol levels AKA your stress hormone, which sends signals to the brain that it's time to store fat (primal survival instinct)!
Higher amounts of carbs later in the day, however, increases the production of melatonin, which helps our bodies sleep better!
Admittedly, I'm still ironing out the little details, but I've followed this formula daily since last February, and have lost more than 60 pounds, and now my body feels the best it ever has!
Food / eating typically lowers cortisol. Cortisol often rises in the morning as part of causing wakefulness.
Your advice actually sounds backwards.
The macronutrition distribution probably plays a part in lowering cortisol. My recollection is that carbs do it more than others, and that a problem for long term ketogenic diets may be high cortisol levels - I recall being blamed by some for causing sleep issues for people. Still, my recollection is that all foods should lower it some extent.
Yes, I've read that about keto diets as well.0 -
It is suggested that you do not eat 3 hours before bedtime. There is no study linking eating before bedtime and gain weight on humans, only on mice.1
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elivelez62 wrote: »It is suggested that you do not eat 3 hours before bedtime. There is no study linking eating before bedtime and gain weight on humans, only on mice.
what if I eat two hours before bedtime and I am in a calorie deficit for the day, will I gain weight?0 -
elivelez62 wrote: »It is suggested that you do not eat 3 hours before bedtime. There is no study linking eating before bedtime and gain weight on humans, only on mice.
what if I eat two hours before bedtime and I am in a calorie deficit for the day, will I gain weight?
One pound per hour of sleep with food still in your belly.0 -
Meal timing makes no difference for gaining weight. I would say the don't eat after 7 comes from a time when people were on more traditional schedules and ate a breakfast lunch and dinner around a 8-4 or 9-5 day. With that, moat people would have eaten the food needed for the day and items after 7 would be "extra" and generally nutritionally sparse and calorie dense0
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I always eat dinner and immediately go to bed afterward mostly because I hate myself after eating0
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@pie_eyes
I'm sorry. Do you always feel bad after eating or just when you eat when you shouldn't?0 -
shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
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Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stokedReadysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
Post the article or where did you read this? What if I work the night shift, sounds like I'm screwed.0 -
Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
I am sorry but this whole post is wrong. You don't need a snack to keep the metabolic fire stoked and your liver will not be unhealthy if you have food in your stomach between 12-3am ...0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stokedReadysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
Post the article or where did you read this? What if I work the night shift, sounds like I'm screwed.
your already dead0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stokedReadysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
Post the article or where did you read this? What if I work the night shift, sounds like I'm screwed.
your already dead
Oh God, is that's what is wrong with me?0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stokedReadysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
Post the article or where did you read this? What if I work the night shift, sounds like I'm screwed.
your already dead
Oh God, is that's what is wrong with me?
Depends. If you ever ate sugar in your life, it could be type 7 Diabetes.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stokedReadysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
Post the article or where did you read this? What if I work the night shift, sounds like I'm screwed.
your already dead
Oh God, is that's what is wrong with me?queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stokedReadysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
Post the article or where did you read this? What if I work the night shift, sounds like I'm screwed.
your already dead
Oh God, is that's what is wrong with me?
Depends. If you ever ate sugar in your life, it could be type 7 Diabetes.
Try ACV, that should fix it.0 -
If whatever you eat after 7 puts you in a calorie surplus on a daily basis, yes you will gain weight. If you are in a deficit or maintenance, you will not. Because science.
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Readysetgo333 wrote: »shadows2424 wrote: »My mom always fusses with me saying that i shouldnt eat after like 7 because it will make me gain weight. What's your view on this and why?
Aside from the calorie deficit thing, I just read an article on the time during the night when your liver filters everything. I think it was between 12-3am. So to not have food in your stomach beforehand is a plus otherwise digestion continues instead. Though the calorie deficit thing is solid, you want a healthy working liver because it has lots to do with metabolizing food. Just some info to consider. I personally eat some cucumber before bed to keep the fires stoked
So what does the liver do for the other 21 hours of the day? Loaf around and watch tv?
(What you read is pure woo. Your metabolism works 24 hours a day. It doesn't have an internal clock which tells particular organs what time to turn on and what time to turn off. Crackpots who write that kind of fictitious garbage should be barred from ever touching a keyboard or having access to the internet again.)0 -
And what happens if you're awake between 12-3am?
Not having a pop, it's just I'm sure many people are still awake at that hour.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »And what happens if you're awake between 12-3am?
Not having a pop, it's just I'm sure many people are still awake at that hour.
And what happens if you live in one time zone, but travel to another? I mean, if I travel from Mountain time zone (GMT -7) to London (GMT), does the liver filtery thingy now happen between 7- 10 am??? Does the liver know to reset its clock, or does the brain send it a memo, or what?0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »And what happens if you're awake between 12-3am?
Not having a pop, it's just I'm sure many people are still awake at that hour.
And what happens if you live in one time zone, but travel to another? I mean, if I travel from Mountain time zone (GMT -7) to London (GMT), does the liver filtery thingy now happen between 7- 10 am??? Does the liver know to reset its clock, or does the brain send it a memo, or what?
Yeah, It doesn't make sense at all....
I would love to see this article @Readysetgo3330 -
Christine_72 wrote: »And what happens if you're awake between 12-3am?
Not having a pop, it's just I'm sure many people are still awake at that hour.
And what happens if you live in one time zone, but travel to another? I mean, if I travel from Mountain time zone (GMT -7) to London (GMT), does the liver filtery thingy now happen between 7- 10 am??? Does the liver know to reset its clock, or does the brain send it a memo, or what?
But if you cross the international dateline, what happens then? Liver on the Barbie.0
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