Wheat bread
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Home made?amusedmonkey wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »guinevere96 wrote: »I can definitely see why people get confused because theres so many different conflicting opinions.
That's because many people know nothing about basic nutrition and/or physiology and believe all the woo they read instead.
The correct answer to the OP is that, if calories are kept equivalent, there will be absolutely no difference (in terms of weight loss) in switching from white to whole wheat bread. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Zip.
In term of weight loss, definitely. But bread with fiber is more filling.amusedmonkey wrote: »Other than it that it tastes better (to me personally), there isn't much difference. Just eat the kind you like. Even nutritionally the difference is not substantial enough to make the switch if you prefer white. Whole wheat has 1 gram of fiber and protein more than white bread per 1 oz slice. You can easily make up for that loss and more by snacking on a small vegetable.
Depends. The whole wheat bread I used to eat had like 3 to 5g of fiber. It DID make a difference and was more filling.
In the end though, for most people, it won't make a huge difference either way, and whole wheat bread often has more calories too.
I agree. I think one can't really say "wheat" bread and "white" bread with any meaning. There are so many breads on the market. Mine have short ingredient lists, a better nutritional profile and quite a bit more fiber. It's 100% whole wheat.
Is bread a make or break? No. Can I have white bread and nosh on some veggies? Sure. Or I can have wheat bread AND the veggies.
Every little positive change adds up.
I guess I was going by my personal experience. Both of my white and whole wheat bread are made of the same ingredients: flour (whole wheat flour in case of wheat bread), water, yeast, salt and just enough sugar to activate the yeast. That's about it. So they aren't much different in terms of nutrition apart from that single gram of fiber and protein. More fiber is not important to me because due to my preferences I routinely get 40+ grams on a low day.
I guess for people who eat a lot of bread and not enough fiber this could make a difference. In this case, a true bran bread is even better. Some brands make high fiber white bread too. It wouldn't be a whole vs white issue anymore, it would be more of a brand issue at this point.
Yeah, our home made breads aren't all that different.
Store bought breads can be very very different with respect to nutrients, ingredients, and fiber.
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FitEqualsSmile wrote: »Try Ezeckel Bread. It would be in the natural freezer section. It is awesome and has the added benefit of protein
I can't stand that stuff. I don't know how it can even be considered bread.0 -
FitEqualsSmile wrote: »Try Ezeckel Bread. It would be in the natural freezer section. It is awesome and has the added benefit of protein
I can't stand that stuff. I don't know how it can even be considered bread.
Ironically, its taste and texture are closer to traditional bread than most of what's found on grocery stores.0 -
FitEqualsSmile wrote: »Try Ezeckel Bread. It would be in the natural freezer section. It is awesome and has the added benefit of protein
Ezekiel bread is so good for you. I usually have a slice in the afternoon. Toasted with a tablespoon of almond butter and some sugar free strawberry jam... SO good!0 -
TheLittleRedHairedGirl wrote: »FitEqualsSmile wrote: »Try Ezeckel Bread. It would be in the natural freezer section. It is awesome and has the added benefit of protein
Ezekiel bread is so good for you. I usually have a slice in the afternoon. Toasted with a tablespoon of almond butter and some sugar free strawberry jam... SO good!
YUM
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cushman5279 wrote: »Nothing like a good piece of freshly baked Italian scali bread with sesame seeds! I don't eat much bread but when I do it has to be phenomenal in texture and taste, I don't care if it's white, wheat, pumpernickel... I am about calories in / calories out vs. nutritional value when it comes to bread.
Yep. I'm really picky about bread, so I don't eat it unless it's really good, and then I don't care if it's whole wheat or white. (I often prefer whole grain and will make whole grain if I bake it, but my main bread weakness is naan, which is typically white.)0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Home made?amusedmonkey wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »guinevere96 wrote: »I can definitely see why people get confused because theres so many different conflicting opinions.
That's because many people know nothing about basic nutrition and/or physiology and believe all the woo they read instead.
The correct answer to the OP is that, if calories are kept equivalent, there will be absolutely no difference (in terms of weight loss) in switching from white to whole wheat bread. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Zip.
In term of weight loss, definitely. But bread with fiber is more filling.amusedmonkey wrote: »Other than it that it tastes better (to me personally), there isn't much difference. Just eat the kind you like. Even nutritionally the difference is not substantial enough to make the switch if you prefer white. Whole wheat has 1 gram of fiber and protein more than white bread per 1 oz slice. You can easily make up for that loss and more by snacking on a small vegetable.
Depends. The whole wheat bread I used to eat had like 3 to 5g of fiber. It DID make a difference and was more filling.
In the end though, for most people, it won't make a huge difference either way, and whole wheat bread often has more calories too.
I agree. I think one can't really say "wheat" bread and "white" bread with any meaning. There are so many breads on the market. Mine have short ingredient lists, a better nutritional profile and quite a bit more fiber. It's 100% whole wheat.
Is bread a make or break? No. Can I have white bread and nosh on some veggies? Sure. Or I can have wheat bread AND the veggies.
Every little positive change adds up.
I guess I was going by my personal experience. Both of my white and whole wheat bread are made of the same ingredients: flour (whole wheat flour in case of wheat bread), water, yeast, salt and just enough sugar to activate the yeast. That's about it. So they aren't much different in terms of nutrition apart from that single gram of fiber and protein. More fiber is not important to me because due to my preferences I routinely get 40+ grams on a low day.
I guess for people who eat a lot of bread and not enough fiber this could make a difference. In this case, a true bran bread is even better. Some brands make high fiber white bread too. It wouldn't be a whole vs white issue anymore, it would be more of a brand issue at this point.
Yeah, our home made breads aren't all that different.
Store bought breads can be very very different with respect to nutrients, ingredients, and fiber.
My weirdo picky things as a kid (in addition to hating cold cereal) was that I would not eat store-bought/supermarket bread. That's why I learned to bake, initially.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Home made?amusedmonkey wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »guinevere96 wrote: »I can definitely see why people get confused because theres so many different conflicting opinions.
That's because many people know nothing about basic nutrition and/or physiology and believe all the woo they read instead.
The correct answer to the OP is that, if calories are kept equivalent, there will be absolutely no difference (in terms of weight loss) in switching from white to whole wheat bread. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Zip.
In term of weight loss, definitely. But bread with fiber is more filling.amusedmonkey wrote: »Other than it that it tastes better (to me personally), there isn't much difference. Just eat the kind you like. Even nutritionally the difference is not substantial enough to make the switch if you prefer white. Whole wheat has 1 gram of fiber and protein more than white bread per 1 oz slice. You can easily make up for that loss and more by snacking on a small vegetable.
Depends. The whole wheat bread I used to eat had like 3 to 5g of fiber. It DID make a difference and was more filling.
In the end though, for most people, it won't make a huge difference either way, and whole wheat bread often has more calories too.
I agree. I think one can't really say "wheat" bread and "white" bread with any meaning. There are so many breads on the market. Mine have short ingredient lists, a better nutritional profile and quite a bit more fiber. It's 100% whole wheat.
Is bread a make or break? No. Can I have white bread and nosh on some veggies? Sure. Or I can have wheat bread AND the veggies.
Every little positive change adds up.
I guess I was going by my personal experience. Both of my white and whole wheat bread are made of the same ingredients: flour (whole wheat flour in case of wheat bread), water, yeast, salt and just enough sugar to activate the yeast. That's about it. So they aren't much different in terms of nutrition apart from that single gram of fiber and protein. More fiber is not important to me because due to my preferences I routinely get 40+ grams on a low day.
I guess for people who eat a lot of bread and not enough fiber this could make a difference. In this case, a true bran bread is even better. Some brands make high fiber white bread too. It wouldn't be a whole vs white issue anymore, it would be more of a brand issue at this point.
Yeah, our home made breads aren't all that different.
Store bought breads can be very very different with respect to nutrients, ingredients, and fiber.
Well, not exactly home made but pretty close. Where I live traditional bread bakeries are still common where you see the bread being made right in front of you in the back of the room and select whichever bread you want from a freshly made still hot batch that you watched coming out of oven. They only operate in the morning up until noon and only stay open until they sell out for the day, so they don't really need preservatives for storage.0 -
clutchitalian wrote: »ya alcohol is a killer thats my only vice......i lost 25lbs in 6 weeks with low carb diet...under 50mg per day it forces ur body to burn fat............
Strangely I've lost 30 lbs while still eating bread AND drinking alcohol. Being in a calorie deficit forces your body to lose fat. Going low carb is just one way to achieve the calorie deficit.0 -
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cushman5279 wrote: »Nothing like a good piece of freshly baked Italian scali bread with sesame seeds! I don't eat much bread but when I do it has to be phenomenal in texture and taste, I don't care if it's white, wheat, pumpernickel... I am about calories in / calories out vs. nutritional value when it comes to bread. It depends on what your goals are. If you're trying to eat clean I'd just pay attention to labels and avoid bread with a lot of processing and additives. Or read "wheat belly" and avoid grains entirely. If you're just trying to lose weight first, eat what you like and stick to a lower calorie choice.
This is why I eat white scali bread for weight loss. 2 slices of fantini scali bread is 120 cal where one slice of pepperidge farm 100% whole wheat is 120 calories. I'd rather eat the scali because half sandwiches make me sad.0 -
If you are going to eat a couple of plain pieces of bread by itself, then I guess the slight differences might make a difference in satiety.
There are also a few types of bread that will have substantially more fiber or protein, which could improve satiety or be better for your macros.
But you can't go by the type of bread, you need to look at the nutrition info. Many "whole wheat" breads only have 1 or 2 grams of fiber, just like white bread. And at least for me, one or two grams isn't going to have a noticeable affect on how full I feel. Especially when the bread is holding 3 oz of turkey, a slice of cheese, and some guacamole and tomato!
So for weight loss, look at the calories. For satiety or for your macros, look at the nutrition info. And completely ignore the "name" or "style" of the bread, because those can be wildly misleading.0 -
clutchitalian wrote: »whole grains are the best i cant remember the last time i ate white bread
I ate white bread yesterday (Italian bread from the bakery, with butter on it, next to a plate of pasta in marinara, next to a sweet Italian sausage). it all was divine, and fit in my calories. And my macros.0 -
I love all bread. But it all doesn't love me back. I have a mild non-gluten wheat allergy so I try to limit bread to one, tops 2 slices per day.(I also adore rye but am allergic to it too) I make mine homemade because if I can only eat a slice or two I'd like it to be the yummiest possible. That said, whole wheat messes with my intestines more than white bread. I do make it occasionally because it's yummy, but I can eat two slices of white without ill effect and only 1 of whole wheat.0
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lisaloolovesblue wrote: »Yes, there is a huge difference. First of all, you should try to make at least half of your grains whole grains. Switching to wheat bread is a really great way to do that. I'll explain why it's important.
When refining a grain (as they do to make white bread) they remove part of the grain. This part contains fiber and other nutrients.
White bread breaks down very quickly, meaning it converts into sugar quickly, and spikes your blood sugar. This causes insulin to be released, which will lower your blood sugar. This is the sugar crash that you might experience with any other food with a high glycemic index. (Glycemic index is how quickly the food turns to sugar). When your blood sugars drop, you start to want more sugar, so you get hungry. White bread doesn't do you much good.
On the other hand, whole grain bread has more complex carbohydrates and fiber, which take longer to break down. You're getting smaller amounts of sugar throughout the day, so your blood sugar doesn't spike and crash, and you will be fuller longer.
So, calorie-wise, there's not a huge difference. But nutrition is about so much more than calories. If you want to make life a little bit easier for yourself, treat your body right and give it the whole grains.
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