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Is the amount of easy access processed food harming dieters health?
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wrong platform.
Everything food is good for you.
JUST KEEP SHOUTING CICO.
As compared to appeal to ridicule without providing any of substance?
The people shouting CICO might be doing so to be heard over the undeniably cacophious and misinformed voices of the diet and fitness industry that wants to sell 10,000 methods that are unnecessary, untrue, or just don't work because there is little money to be made in teaching a person how to eat sustainably, removing them as a repeat customer.2 -
jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
A canned meat I remember from college is Deviled Ham. Bought it once when it was on sale for super-cheap. Never again.0 -
Not sure canned meat is a good example, the welfare issues around tuna don't depend if it's in a can or not.
My problem with tinned meats would be the origin and quality of the meat, if you get a piece of chicken it's clearly off one bird whereas there could be all manner of ground up "interesting bits" from multiple birds in a canned product.
Salt isn't that big a deal for healthy people with working kidneys and normal blood pressure. You would have to consider their whole diet not individual foods.
I did manage to find one example of canned chicken on the Tesco website, which is probably representative of my view of the concept :
Funny thing, about your view of the concept - if an emergency ever happens, cat food is actually fairly safe to eat. Most dog food? Bad idea. Cats, however, are a little more vulnerable to health issues, and the food produced for them (US standards at least) has to be fairly close to human standards. Just a little zombie apocalypse survival tip if you find all your fellow survivors have raided the grocery stores but the pet food stores are unguarded, and you need to pick out which can to grab before the zombie grabs you.4 -
I think it just makes it really easy to have a pretty crappy overall diet. In and of themselves, I don't think it matters much...but people have really crappy diets in general and don't get proper nutrition...which is harmful.2
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jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
I love spam! Not had it for yonks! It's going on the shopping list for next week regardless of what it's going to do to my internal organs!
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If you're concerned about what goes into processed foods, just read the labels. And by the way, most of what you eat is processed to some degree unless you grow it yourself (and in any case, being "processed" doesn't inject some mystical evil essence into a food).
I have two cans of imported Italian tuna in olive oil sitting on my counter ready to go with a package of frozen peas into a jar of marinara sauce which I'll have with whole wheat pasta. All of it, in other words, processed. I have absolutely no fears about what it might be doing to my internal organs -- other than tasting good and providing me with some good nutritional value.
And regarding one of the questions asked -- low fat does not make something good for you. That's why in spite of a couple of decades of high availability of low fat "diet" foods here in the USA people here are fatter than ever.3 -
If you're concerned about what goes into processed foods, just read the labels. And by the way, most of what you eat is processed to some degree unless you grow it yourself (and in any case, being "processed" doesn't inject some mystical evil essence into a food).
I have two cans of imported Italian tuna in olive oil sitting on my counter ready to go with a package of frozen peas into a jar of marinara sauce which I'll have with whole wheat pasta. All of it, in other words, processed. I have absolutely no fears about what it might be doing to my internal organs -- other than tasting good and providing me with some good nutritional value.
And regarding one of the questions asked -- low fat does not make something good for you. That's why in spite of a couple of decades of high availability of low fat "diet" foods here in the USA people here are fatter than ever.
People didn't actually reduce their consumption of fat, though. They just added in some additional carbs.0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
I love spam! Not had it for yonks! It's going on the shopping list for next week regardless of what it's going to do to my internal organs!
What's a yonk?0 -
a singular member of the Yankees. Yonk.2
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I don't usually buy canned chicken (or tuna for that matter), but I assume this is along the lines of what you're referring to OP?
It's chicken breast meat packed in water - I'm not sure why that is supposed to be harmful to our organs?
INGREDIENTS:
CHICKEN BREAST MEAT WITH RIB MEAT, WATER, SEASONING (SALT, CHICKEN BROTH AND NATURAL FLAVORS), MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SODIUM PHOSPHATES.
I don't think a lot of people would eat this plain, but probably in a recipe like chicken salad, or something where you mix it with other ingredients (chicken pot pie or a dip?) it would be fine.
I buy the Tyson Grilled and Ready chicken strips on occasion when they are on sale to keep in my freezer to throw on top of a salad or in with pasta when I need some extra protein and want a quick meal. I don't see it as being any different than your canned chicken example so I'm happy to discuss why you think there would be something harmful due to the processing of that chicken that would be different than me grilling the chicken myself, cutting it into slices, and freezing it for use later (which I also do but the ready made bags come in handy when I haven't had time to meal prep).
Sorry not sure why the images are so differently sized!1 -
ClosetBayesian wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
I love spam! Not had it for yonks! It's going on the shopping list for next week regardless of what it's going to do to my internal organs!
What's a yonk?
It is a way of measuring preparedness for scary, running away on air inducing panic, which itself is measured in zonks. The yonks come before zonks.0 -
If you're concerned about what goes into processed foods, just read the labels. And by the way, most of what you eat is processed to some degree unless you grow it yourself (and in any case, being "processed" doesn't inject some mystical evil essence into a food).
I have two cans of imported Italian tuna in olive oil sitting on my counter ready to go with a package of frozen peas into a jar of marinara sauce which I'll have with whole wheat pasta. All of it, in other words, processed. I have absolutely no fears about what it might be doing to my internal organs -- other than tasting good and providing me with some good nutritional value.
And regarding one of the questions asked -- low fat does not make something good for you. That's why in spite of a couple of decades of high availability of low fat "diet" foods here in the USA people here are fatter than ever.
I think that is partly because a lot of those foods end up with added sugar. Like non-fat and low fat yogurts. Many have a ton of extra sugar.0 -
ClosetBayesian wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
I love spam! Not had it for yonks! It's going on the shopping list for next week regardless of what it's going to do to my internal organs!
What's a yonk?
It is a way of measuring preparedness for scary, running away on air inducing panic, which itself is measured in zonks. The yonks come before zonks.
And before those darn meddling kids ruin my plans.0 -
thankyou4thevenom wrote: »ClosetBayesian wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
I love spam! Not had it for yonks! It's going on the shopping list for next week regardless of what it's going to do to my internal organs!
What's a yonk?
It is a way of measuring preparedness for scary, running away on air inducing panic, which itself is measured in zonks. The yonks come before zonks.
And before those darn meddling kids ruin my plans.
That's ZOINKS! Totally different than Zonks.0 -
I found this in my kitchen. I don't like the taste but it's not yucky ingredient wise0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »thankyou4thevenom wrote: »ClosetBayesian wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »jmbmilholland wrote: »I cannot believe we have made it this far into a discussion of tinned meats (and tangentially their availability in the UK), and there has not been a mention of Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam and Spam.
I am trying to remember the meats I usually bought at Marks & Spencer while a student there on a very tight budget, but I believe I wholly subsisted on fancy jam and baguettes.
I love spam! Not had it for yonks! It's going on the shopping list for next week regardless of what it's going to do to my internal organs!
What's a yonk?
It is a way of measuring preparedness for scary, running away on air inducing panic, which itself is measured in zonks. The yonks come before zonks.
And before those darn meddling kids ruin my plans.
That's ZOINKS! Totally different than Zonks.
Spoil sport.0 -
IMO, people get hung up on the term "processed" and thereby equate convenience foods to being bad because they're not "clean" or whatever the latest buzzword is. It's really quite simple - if it fits in your calorie allotment, go for it. Unless of course you have a health issue with sodium, nitrates, etc which are often contained in convenience/ processed foods.1
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singingflutelady wrote: »
I found this in my kitchen. I don't like the taste but it's not yucky ingredient wise
FLAKES of chicken? LOL I have never seen one put that way before, that sounds so funny to me.
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Wickedfaery73 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »
I found this in my kitchen. I don't like the taste but it's not yucky ingredient wise
FLAKES of chicken? LOL I have never seen one put that way before, that sounds so funny to me.
It's just like tuna but you know Canadians are odd
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