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I bet it is more than rosemary getting so many to 100+
GaleHawkins
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news-medical.net/news/20160330/Researchers-to-study-people-over-100-years-old-in-Acciaroli-Italy-to-unlock-secrets-of-healthy-aging.aspx
See see pockets like this around the world. A study for several of these 100+ groups might find common factors.
See see pockets like this around the world. A study for several of these 100+ groups might find common factors.
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Thanks lemurcat for those cool links. That was the more the lifestyle way I grew up.0
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@senecarr who knows? That is not a subject of this thread. It is about places in the world where people live to be over 100 around the world.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
@senecarr who knows? That is not a subject of this thread. It is about places in the world where people live to be over 100 around the world.
Bluezones are the places where centenarians are common. Can I discuss centenarians, or only people that live to be over 100?0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
@senecarr who knows? That is not a subject of this thread. It is about places in the world where people live to be over 100 around the world.
Bluezones are the places where centenarians are common. Can I discuss centenarians, or only people that live to be over 100?
To keep it simple let us just think of 100+ meaning 100, 101, 102, etc.
Blue zones are new to me but I have never hear of keto being associated with bluezones any where in the world. Clean living and clean eating seems to be the thread that runs through most of them. Keto diets seem to be aimed at resolving health issues stemming from non clean living and/or eating.0 -
I am not sure I want to live that long. My grandma just turned 95. She is physically healthy but her mind is gone. Her husband has died along with all her friends. She doesn't recognize her children or grandchildren.
In my opinion she is alive because of her genetics and not because of how she ate. For the last 3 years she has been eating 3-4 pieces of cheesecake a day. My parents buy big platters from Costco every week for her. The interesting part is that she has had weight issues my whole life. Always dieting and up and down on the scale. Now she's burns a ton of calories and is almost underweight despite all the cheesecake.0 -
Genetics plays a big part. Average age of death in my family is late 80's. My mom is turning 90 next week. My dad is younger at 83 and his dad passed away at 87. Several other family members who have passed on were late 80's. And the elders didn't really exercise. One thing I did notice though is that they were all still very active (doing senior citizen trips, events, etc.). They didn't just stay at home.
I will say that in my front yard, I have 4 rosemary bushes and people ask all the time if they can lop off a branch.
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I am not sure I want to live that long. My grandma just turned 95. She is physically healthy but her mind is gone. Her husband has died along with all her friends. She doesn't recognize her children or grandchildren.
In my opinion she is alive because of her genetics and not because of how she ate. For the last 3 years she has been eating 3-4 pieces of cheesecake a day. My parents buy big platters from Costco every week for her. The interesting part is that she has had weight issues my whole life. Always dieting and up and down on the scale. Now she's burns a ton of calories and is almost underweight despite all the cheesecake.
That's kind of what I'm thinking. I practice IF because of the promising research coming out about IF and longevity of life, but now I'm starting to question myself-do I actually want to live past my 80s? By then my husband will most likely be gone, my family will be gone or declining (except my kids/grandkids and at that point interacting with them will be limited), friends gone, no goals really to work towards etc. Most people in my family live to be in their 80s. I don't know that it's a bad thing?
My husband's 86 year old grandmother passed away recently and her life was pretty crappy at that point, living in a nursing home and working on puzzles all day. She actually made the decision to go off of medications/go into hospice because she'd was ready to move on. She flat out told us she was bored out of her mind and didn't want to hang out around here anymore
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
@senecarr who knows? That is not a subject of this thread. It is about places in the world where people live to be over 100 around the world.
Lots of people know. The answer is "none of them"
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A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
Also being financially independent seems to be key so one can travel and have other options like staying at home vs. nursing home as long as possible
Since Alzheimer's is referred to by some as Type 3 Diabetes we can assume diet is one factor in developing/preventing that mental health risk.
My father in law passed at 93 but at 93 he had been out on the tractor bush hogging around fields and he was very alert mentally. Having lived the last 15 years alone did take a toll on him. A mental state that is looking forward to the next day or around the next curve is I expect an absolute requirement to make it to 100+.
When I invite people to my 110th birthday bash I make sure they are 30 years younger than I am. I had to change my Way Of Eating when I realized it was without question leading to my premature death. Helping younger people I find is a driving force both physically and mentally helpful. Having two teenage children when 65 helps with that focus.
It takes both a somewhat physically active body and a mentally active mind with a purpose to live to make it pass 100 with meaning seems to be a summary of thoughts here as I read them.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
@senecarr who knows? That is not a subject of this thread. It is about places in the world where people live to be over 100 around the world.
the irony in your response is strong...1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
So maybe it is about the rosemary...
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blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
So maybe it is about the rosemary...
Rosemary might be of value if it does nothing more that tigger epigenetics in a positive was as a posebno. I will read as to what rosemary is since I have never tried it or seen it.
I do know rosemary was not mentioned in other locations with several people making it to 100+.0 -
You mean rosemary the herb? Dunno about longevity, but it's great on lamb and grows easily.
(Also fits in with parsley, sage, and thyme, of course.)1 -
medicalnewstoday.com/articles/266370.php
WOW! I can not believe I have never worked with it before and see it does have side effects to be aware. Will read up on it.
Has anyone realized health benefits personally from rosemary supplements?0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »medicalnewstoday.com/articles/266370.php
WOW! I can not believe I have never worked with it before and see it does have side effects to be aware. Will read up on it.
Has anyone realized health benefits personally from rosemary supplements?
I'm not sure why your mind would go to rosemary supplements . . . the people in the area discussed eat their rosemary as part of their meals. It's a delicious herb and a great addition to many meals (people like it on meat, I frequently add it to roasted vegetables and soups).1 -
@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
I'm not sure where you live, but it is very easy to buy fresh where I am. I buy it at my regular grocery store in the herb section.
I just eat it because I love the taste. I didn't even know about the potential benefits until this morning.1 -
Fresh rosemary is at any grocery store where I live. Dried is too, but it's not as good.
I never heard of the medical benefits before, but it's a common way of adding flavor.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
rosemary is a great spice and has nothing to do with longevity or living better....
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GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
rosemary is a great spice and has nothing to do with longevity or living better....
wow....
Yeah, the people in this area live a very specific lifestyle of which rosemary consumption is a *small* part. Popping it in pill form . . . I'm doubtful that this would do much to replicate the total lifestyle that benefits them.
The radio story I heard this morning said they also had a great deal of leisure time, very strong social connections, heavy consumption of oily fish (specifically anchovies).
The temptation of stories like this is to cherry-pick things that we think will help us -- but our lives are combinations of multiple factors, not just one thing.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
rosemary is a great spice and has nothing to do with longevity or living better....
wow....
Yeah, the people in this area live a very specific lifestyle of which rosemary consumption is a *small* part. Popping it in pill form . . . I'm doubtful that this would do much to replicate the total lifestyle that benefits them.
The radio story I heard this morning said they also had a great deal of leisure time, very strong social connections, heavy consumption of oily fish (specifically anchovies).
Yeah, those sound familiar. Long-lived populations frequently have a combination of factors like that.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
rosemary is a great spice and has nothing to do with longevity or living better....
wow....
Yeah, the people in this area live a very specific lifestyle of which rosemary consumption is a *small* part. Popping it in pill form . . . I'm doubtful that this would do much to replicate the total lifestyle that benefits them.
The radio story I heard this morning said they also had a great deal of leisure time, very strong social connections, heavy consumption of oily fish (specifically anchovies).
The temptation of stories like this is to cherry-pick things that we think will help us -- but our lives are combinations of multiple factors, not just one thing.
At least it is good to know it did not seem to shorten their lives. One only needs to add so many blood thinners to one's diet.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
rosemary is a great spice and has nothing to do with longevity or living better....
wow....
Yeah, the people in this area live a very specific lifestyle of which rosemary consumption is a *small* part. Popping it in pill form . . . I'm doubtful that this would do much to replicate the total lifestyle that benefits them.
The radio story I heard this morning said they also had a great deal of leisure time, very strong social connections, heavy consumption of oily fish (specifically anchovies).
Yeah, those sound familiar. Long-lived populations frequently have a combination of factors like that.
i am sure genetics plays a role too ...0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
rosemary is a great spice and has nothing to do with longevity or living better....
wow....
Yeah, the people in this area live a very specific lifestyle of which rosemary consumption is a *small* part. Popping it in pill form . . . I'm doubtful that this would do much to replicate the total lifestyle that benefits them.
The radio story I heard this morning said they also had a great deal of leisure time, very strong social connections, heavy consumption of oily fish (specifically anchovies).
Yeah, those sound familiar. Long-lived populations frequently have a combination of factors like that.
i am sure genetics plays a role too ...
The story I heard this morning said they were doing blood tests on many of the older people in that area and also mapping family connections. I think the researchers are thinking the same way that you are . . .0 -
Is is to be a study over time and should be any interesting read when published down the road.0
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Rosemary, like most members of the mint family, is antioxidant, antimicrobial, and antifungal; here are a variety of peer-reviewed articles. A lot of it is food chemistry type things. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=rosemary+officinalis+antimicrobial&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0,15
It is also being investigated for anti-cancer properties, but those studies are even sketchier and to me fall in the potential "woo" category.
Like Lavender, Thyme, Lemon Balm, Sage, Hyssop, Oregano, etc. it had "officinalis" in its Latin name, which means it has historically been used for medicinal purposes going back to the great Greek physicians and before.
You can plant it in a glazed pot, keep it on the patio in the summer and move it into a cool southern windowsill in the winter--just make sure it is well-drained, and never let it dry out. I have 3 plants that I have kept alive for several years. I also use rosemary and lavender essential oils in homemade salve, along with shea, olive oil, and beeswax. And I eat it on potatoes and chicken. Rather than supplements, I would make a tea from it.
As noted by others above, I wouldn't get too excited about one herb, however--these people are probably cooking with a lot of herbs and it's their overall diet and exercise that are most notable to me.0 -
we have a couple of rosemary bushes that popped up, we didn't plant them. I don't eat it as it mostly goes with Lamb which I have never eaten
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