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I bet it is more than rosemary getting so many to 100+
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lemurcat12 wrote: »You mean rosemary the herb? Dunno about longevity, but it's great on lamb and grows easily.
(Also fits in with parsley, sage, and thyme, of course.)
Remember me to one who lives there?1 -
Rosemary grows really well -- I had a huge plant in a giant pot on my roof for a while. Looked like a small Christmas tree. Luckily I love lamb (and am not into the lamb with mint thing).0
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How much Rosemary would you need to eat for effectiveness?
Chemo drugs killed the cancerous tumor in my body. They seemed strong if I judge by what they did to me and the cancer.
Having a hard time understanding how an herb that I use to season foods would be strong enough to get cancer.0 -
@100df I just heard of rosemary that you can eat a few days ago. I just read the below from the University of Maryland Medical Center about rosemary. It seems some have looked at rosemary for different medical conditions. Note the side effects especially when taking some Rx meds can be real and dangerous. Most all herbs can be dangerous under certain conditions so they are not to be used without a full understanding or health risks as well as possible benefits.
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I'm still puzzled by the fact that you hadn't heard of edible rosemary before. Haven't you seen The Graduate? Or otherwise heard the old folk song (recorded by Simon & Garfunkel, among others) Scarborough Fair? Parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme.
Also (although this might not tip you off to the kitchen uses):
There's rosemary, that's for remembrance; pray,
love, remember: and there is pansies. that's for thoughts....
There's fennel for you, and columbines: there's rue
for you; and here's some for me: we may call it
herb-grace o' Sundays: O you must wear your rue with
a difference. There's a daisy: I would give you
some violets, but they withered all when my father
died: they say he made a good end,--1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
Pretty certain you can get rosemary in Kentucky.
And yes, I'm in the camp of "I can't believe you never heard of rosemary".2 -
How much Rosemary would you need to eat for effectiveness?
Chemo drugs killed the cancerous tumor in my body. They seemed strong if I judge by what they did to me and the cancer.
Having a hard time understanding how an herb that I use to season foods would be strong enough to get cancer.
You'll have to ask the Asians and Europeans who like to do those kinds of studies. Sounds like BS to me. At least they're studying rosemary and not the private parts of tigers and other exotic endangered species. Also, when it comes to cancer cures, don't make the mistake I did and google "black salve" when the article I was reading clearly said not to. Suffice it to say, there are herbalists who will sell you products that will burn your face off.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »I'm still puzzled by the fact that you hadn't heard of edible rosemary before. Haven't you seen The Graduate? Or otherwise heard the old folk song (recorded by Simon & Garfunkel, among others) Scarborough Fair? Parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme.
Also (although this might not tip you off to the kitchen uses):
There's rosemary, that's for remembrance; pray,
love, remember: and there is pansies. that's for thoughts....
There's fennel for you, and columbines: there's rue
for you; and here's some for me: we may call it
herb-grace o' Sundays: O you must wear your rue with
a difference. There's a daisy: I would give you
some violets, but they withered all when my father
died: they say he made a good end,--
I've never watched The Graduate. I probably should do that some day, someone told me it would let me understand all the women asking if I'd like to meet Mrs. Robinson.0 -
I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.0
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GaleHawkins wrote: »I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.
For the last time. Epigenetic =/= placebo
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Rosemary's Baby IS a rather unfortunate side effect of too much consumption of rosemary.
Or perhaps:
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FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.
For the last time. Epigenetic =/= placebo
I prefer the problem where people react to treatments differently on if they feel they are outside or not - the gazebo effect.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
So maybe it is about the rosemary...
Rosemary might be of value if it does nothing more that tigger epigenetics in a positive was as a posebno. I will read as to what rosemary is since I have never tried it or seen it.
I do know rosemary was not mentioned in other locations with several people making it to 100+.
I was kind of joking since "lawn care" was mentioned as something that helped people to stay active as they grew older. So naturally, if one were growing one's own rosemary (or anything, poisonous mushrooms or what have you), maybe it would be an activity that would help them to keep active and improve certain factors as they age.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.
For the last time. Epigenetic =/= placebo
I prefer the problem where people react to treatments differently on if they feel they are outside or not - the gazebo effect.
OMG @senecarr You actually made me chuckle
Quite the feat, that is. 0 -
blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
So maybe it is about the rosemary...
Rosemary might be of value if it does nothing more that tigger epigenetics in a positive was as a posebno. I will read as to what rosemary is since I have never tried it or seen it.
I do know rosemary was not mentioned in other locations with several people making it to 100+.
I was kind of joking since "lawn care" was mentioned as something that helped people to stay active as they grew older. So naturally, if one were growing one's own rosemary (or anything, poisonous mushrooms or what have you), maybe it would be an activity that would help them to keep active and improve certain factors as they age.
Great point. My father in law had a big garden the year when he passed at the age of 93. He had cancer.0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.
For the last time. Epigenetic =/= placebo
I prefer the problem where people react to treatments differently on if they feel they are outside or not - the gazebo effect.
OMG @senecarr You actually made me chuckle Quite the feat, that is.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
So maybe it is about the rosemary...
Rosemary might be of value if it does nothing more that tigger epigenetics in a positive was as a posebno. I will read as to what rosemary is since I have never tried it or seen it.
I do know rosemary was not mentioned in other locations with several people making it to 100+.
I was kind of joking since "lawn care" was mentioned as something that helped people to stay active as they grew older. So naturally, if one were growing one's own rosemary (or anything, poisonous mushrooms or what have you), maybe it would be an activity that would help them to keep active and improve certain factors as they age.
Great point. My father in law had a big garden the year when he passed at the age of 93. He had cancer.
Did he grow rosemary? Or you wouldn't know if you saw it.1 -
queenliz99 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »blues4miles wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »A common thread that I see evolving as one requirement for longevity is a reason to live is a must.
This is true is for any animal.
Another common thread is staying mentally and physically active like following the news, traveling, lawn care, etc.
So maybe it is about the rosemary...
Rosemary might be of value if it does nothing more that tigger epigenetics in a positive was as a posebno. I will read as to what rosemary is since I have never tried it or seen it.
I do know rosemary was not mentioned in other locations with several people making it to 100+.
I was kind of joking since "lawn care" was mentioned as something that helped people to stay active as they grew older. So naturally, if one were growing one's own rosemary (or anything, poisonous mushrooms or what have you), maybe it would be an activity that would help them to keep active and improve certain factors as they age.
Great point. My father in law had a big garden the year when he passed at the age of 93. He had cancer.
Did he grow rosemary? Or you wouldn't know if you saw it.
Rhubarb, Parsley, sage, and thyme are all I heard mentioned. Sage I know was for the sausage when they killed hogs.0 -
My mother in law was a professional genealogist. I have extensive records of my family. My conclusions on longevity, choose your parents.2
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FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.
For the last time. Epigenetic =/= placebo
I prefer the problem where people react to treatments differently on if they feel they are outside or not - the gazebo effect.
"It's too late. You've angered the gazebo!"
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healthyplace.com/blogs/funnyinthehead/2011/08/mental-health-terminology-demystified/
#5 means it is a real term.
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In Calabria it grows wild, its easily found and used in meat dishes. We picked it along the road and in the garden of the house. It has a good smell when crushed, very nice. I think its used as a tea also. It grows in S. France and in the southern mediterranean naturally as a largish low bush.1
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FunkyTobias wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I have not seen it that I remember but heard of Rosemary's baby. Yes on Parsley, sage, and thyme. I will look for a plant. It is my guess some the herbs have a value if they only trigger an epigenetic/placebo response.
For the last time. Epigenetic =/= placebo
I prefer the problem where people react to treatments differently on if they feel they are outside or not - the gazebo effect.
"It's too late. You've angered the gazebo!"
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Christine_72 wrote: »we have a couple of rosemary bushes that popped up, we didn't plant them. I don't eat it as it mostly goes with Lamb which I have never eaten
Much more versatile than that. Filo cheese pie with rosemary in it is fabulous, and it's good with many cheeses in general. It's tasty chopped and mixed with oven-roasted vegetables (probably best to add at about 15 minutes from done, on the final stir). It's even good in certain fruit salads - think melon, pineapple or pears, for example, or even citrus. I could go on and on . . . .0 -
Restaurant (Italian) I was at last night had both beef and pork dishes with rosemary prominently listed as an ingredient. I thought of this thread. ;-)0
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Christine_72 wrote: »we have a couple of rosemary bushes that popped up, we didn't plant them. I don't eat it as it mostly goes with Lamb which I have never eaten
Much more versatile than that. Filo cheese pie with rosemary in it is fabulous, and it's good with many cheeses in general. It's tasty chopped and mixed with oven-roasted vegetables (probably best to add at about 15 minutes from done, on the final stir). It's even good in certain fruit salads - think melon, pineapple or pears, for example, or even citrus. I could go on and on . . . .
It is also delicious with chicken, pork, turkey, quail.
Sweet stuff, too. Just bought a lemon ice cream with rosemary shortbread cookies inclusions. Very tasty, very summery.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
It's easy to grow here in Massachusetts. It's a "tender perennial" - normal Massachusetts winters normally kill it. We had a milder winter this year and my and my Mom's plants survived. Your profile says you are in Kentucky - you should have no problem growing it year round there. Home Depot or any large garden center should have plants. Once it is established, one plant is plenty for one person's culinary needs.0 -
493 results for "fresh rosemary" http://allrecipes.com/search/results/?ingIncl=fresh rosemary&sort=re
1054 results for "rosemary."1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
It's easy to grow here in Massachusetts. It's a "tender perennial" - normal Massachusetts winters normally kill it. We had a milder winter this year and my and my Mom's plants survived. Your profile says you are in Kentucky - you should have no problem growing it year round there. Home Depot or any large garden center should have plants. Once it is established, one plant is plenty for one person's culinary needs.
Thanks. I may be able to grow it on a steep southern sloping hill to help it survive the winter. Do you root a cutting to get a start of it.?
I just started on Chanca Piedra and will see if it will grow here but its normal growing area is more near the equator.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »@janejellyroll I just heard of it yesterday and it seems to take some effort to grow per the link below. I may be able to find a fresh source when I look.
Do you just use rosemary for flavor or for specific medical reasons or both? I see how it can be good for living better and longer without Rx from the doctor to do the same thing.
It's easy to grow here in Massachusetts. It's a "tender perennial" - normal Massachusetts winters normally kill it. We had a milder winter this year and my and my Mom's plants survived. Your profile says you are in Kentucky - you should have no problem growing it year round there. Home Depot or any large garden center should have plants. Once it is established, one plant is plenty for one person's culinary needs.
Thanks. I may be able to grow it on a steep southern sloping hill to help it survive the winter. Do you root a cutting to get a start of it.?
I just started on Chanca Piedra and will see if it will grow here but its normal growing area is more near the equator.
Pushing your luck a bit, I think. It's reputed to be a zone 8 plant, and Murray, KY is in 6b according to USDA. The variety "Arp" has a reputation for being slightly more cold-hardy than some.
Another option is to put it in a large pot, sink the pot in the ground in a sunny spot in summer, and bring it indoors to a South-facing window in Winter (when freezing temps threaten). That's what I do here in the North (Michigan, zone 5). IME, they're a bit touchy about wet roots/root rot. I'm kind of a bad plant mommy, but have had better luck with upright rather than trailing cultivars, FWIW.
You should be able to buy a plant at most nurseries or garden centers that sell perennial herbs, and not have to worry about propagating. I've even seen them in grocery stores, on occasion.0
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