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Does a high fat diet reduce cholesterol numbers?

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  • willammoney
    willammoney Posts: 137 Member
    yarwell wrote: »
    yarwell wrote: »
    Almost half the patients hospitalized with coronary artery disease have LDL levels <100 mg/dL

    http://www.ahjonline.com/article/S0002-8703(08)00717-5/abstract

    Maybe thats why HDL is part of the key ratios. 10% had HDL > 60, and 1% a combination of low LDL and high HDL.

    Indeed, More than half the patients have admission HDL levels <40 mg/dL, whereas <10% have HDL ≥60 mg/dL.

    We should also note that " Before admission, only 28,944 (21.1%) patients were receiving lipid-lowering medications. "

    GPs use Risk calculators not single variables. My HDL of 70 keeps the doctor at bay.

    In an environment with poor endothelial function Hdl does not function properly thereby negating the effects of everyone's high Hdl, in a nutshell it's function that matters not the amount.
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    yarwell wrote: »

    I kinda agree with this commenter (specifically the Cholestrol/HDL):-
    meg
    March 16 2
    Your current cholesterol is 26% HIGHER this year than when you started LCHF.

    Your triglycerides are 43% higher. Your HDL (Helathy) cholesterol is LOWER, but your LDL (Unhealthy) is nearly 50% HIGHER.

    Your fasting glucose is also higher than when you started LCHF, and at 97 you're still at the high end of normal. You're only 2 points below pre-diabetes.

    Although your labs are all still within the normal range, I would expect all those numbers to go down. Mine did when I was eating low-carb, although I wasn't eating high fat. My test results improved enough that I was taken off cholesterol medication completely.

    What your test results show is simply that your labs stayed within normal levels over a span of time, but that can also happen with a low-fat diet. You didn't show significant improvement in any areas, and some got worse.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    his Total cholesterol/HDL has indeed gone up, he is 10 years older after all, but he's still on the axis of the risk chart at 3.1. No panic there.

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  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    I guess so when you look at the absolute number.I would have expected a better trend to match his bottom variables. I really don't have anything to compare his to other than my own 10 years of result data. My trend is for the better. However, as you said, he is still in range so it's mute anyway when it comes to choice of diet.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    yarwell wrote: »
    Here's a study that might meet the OP's spec except it went the wrong way - they reduced fat content in the diet stepwise while maintaining calorie levels and exchanging fat for carbs. After a controlled spell they went onto ad-lib low fat (15% F) from the controlled feeding, and lost weight. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1439.full.pdf

    Triglycerides went up 35% with reducing fat, and HDL cholesterol fell 15%. LDL cholesterol fell 6% when fat went from 35 to 15%. CVD risk factors got worse by reducing the fat content and replacing with carbohydrate.

    I guess the prevailing lipophobia makes it difficult to run a similar increasing fat trial.

    Funny, these results have been known for decades but until recently people are better understanding what they actually mean. Basically lowering TC is meaningless without context. Nice links mate.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited April 2016
    I don't think this article from The Journal of Nutrition was linked yet: A Ketogenic Diet Favorably Affects Serum Biomarkers for Cardiovascular Disease in Normal-Weight Men It's just a short term study.

    From what I have learned, LCHF tends to raise HDL, lower triglycerides, and have little affect on LDL numbers but it may rise in some - those LDL measures usually switch to the healthier pattern a so an increase can be good.

    This is not true for all, but it appears to be true for most. My guess is that higher carb eaters who already focus on veggies and some fruits would already have a good lipid panel and that thos who switched fom a diet containing sugar and grains would see greater improvements.

    The minority who have their blood lipids go up with a high cholesterol diet would not fit this trend either.
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I don't think this article from The Journal of Nutrition was linked yet: A Ketogenic Diet Favorably Affects Serum Biomarkers for Cardiovascular Disease in Normal-Weight Men It's just a short term study.

    From what I have learned, LCHF tends to raise HDL, lower triglycerides, and have little affect on LDL numbers but it may rise in some - those LDL measures usually switch to the healthier pattern a so an increase can be good.

    This is not true for all, but it appears to be true for most. My guess is that higher carb eaters who already focus on veggies and some fruits would already have a good lipid panel and that thos who switched fom a diet containing sugar and grains would see greater improvements.

    The minority who have their blood lipids go up with a high cholesterol diet would not fit this trend either.

    This is a good one as its for normal weight. It looks like the total stayed the same as well which would make the total/hdl ratio higher (better).
  • Wickedfaery73
    Wickedfaery73 Posts: 184 Member
    edited April 2016
    Man, the posted triglyceride numbers make mine look down right terrifying! My last numbers were

    Triglyceride 417 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 150 mg/dL
    Triglyceride is greater than 400. LDL Calculation is invalid and cannot be reported.

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Pretty interesting that your total Cholesterol remains so low. I assume this is without medication?



    Yes that is without medication. My very low HDL and super high triglycerides are what have her (my doc) concerned. I go for a follow up in a couple weeks to see if I have lowered them.
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    Man, the posted triglyceride numbers make mine look down right terrifying! My last numbers were

    Triglyceride 417 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 150 mg/dL
    Triglyceride is greater than 400. LDL Calculation is invalid and cannot be reported.

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Pretty interesting that your total Cholesterol remains so low. I assume this is without medication?



    Yes that is without medication. My very low HDL and super high triglycerides are what have her (my doc) concerned. I go for a follow up in a couple weeks to see if I have lowered them.

    would you say that you have a high body fat? 35%+
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    edited April 2016
    Man, the posted triglyceride numbers make mine look down right terrifying! My last numbers were

    Triglyceride 417 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 150 mg/dL
    Triglyceride is greater than 400. LDL Calculation is invalid and cannot be reported.

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Pretty interesting that your total Cholesterol remains so low. I assume this is without medication?



    Yes that is without medication. My very low HDL and super high triglycerides are what have her (my doc) concerned. I go for a follow up in a couple weeks to see if I have lowered them.

    @Wickedfaery73 my low HDL doubled and high Triglycerides dropped by 75% in the first 12 months I was off of sugar and all grains. That was just my experience and do not know why but it does give this old man some peace of mind to have lowered my risk of premature death per research I have read. Hope your next test comes out fine.

    There was another 30 pounds of weight loss when carbs dropped < 50 grams daily during that 12 month period.
  • Crisseyda
    Crisseyda Posts: 532 Member
    edited April 2016
    After I little cursory research, I found the following information from Dr. Sarah Hallberg.

    In her LCHF practice, she says about 1/3 of patients on a low carb diet will see a rise in their LDL (even with lots of other beneficial changes to A1C, insulin sensitivity, weight, etc). Upon closer investigation, with a nuclear magnetic resonance lipid panel, most will have a healthy pattern of mostly large LDL particle and few small, dense LDL particles. However, there is a small subset of people who will actually get a rise in the small, dense LDL particles.

    There is evidence that suggests, 1. these small, dense LDL (aka LDL-p) actually have a lower residence time in the body on a LCHF and are circulated faster, reducing the risk associated with oxidative stress and 2. these increases might be r/t rapid weightloss and mobilization of fat and will even out after maintenance weight is achieved. Also, from what I can tell by the biochemistry she explains in the video, it may be that some people (maybe due to the fact that they have been insulin resistant for so long and are metabolically deranged) actually need more insulin that the average person to down-regulate the production of VLDL. What do you think @jquizzle10 ?

    However, the question remains unanswered for now--they are conducting a study now (as described in the video link below). When speaking of risk factors for cardiovascular disease, the greatest risk factor is insulin resistance, not LDL or even LDL-p; so with a LCHF you are definitely lowering your overall coronary risk factors. But we do need more information, and for now those 1-2% of patients who get an unfavorable lipid pattern may need to tweak their diets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8jUmCe3zDs

    EDIT: just had a thought, on a side note, intermittent fasting may benefit these patients considering VLDL is created by the liver primarily from dietary fat!
  • Wickedfaery73
    Wickedfaery73 Posts: 184 Member
    edited April 2016
    Man, the posted triglyceride numbers make mine look down right terrifying! My last numbers were

    Triglyceride 417 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 150 mg/dL
    Triglyceride is greater than 400. LDL Calculation is invalid and cannot be reported.

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Pretty interesting that your total Cholesterol remains so low. I assume this is without medication?



    Yes that is without medication. My very low HDL and super high triglycerides are what have her (my doc) concerned. I go for a follow up in a couple weeks to see if I have lowered them.

    would you say that you have a high body fat? 35%+

    Probably, I weighed 214lbs when the test was done. And I am very jiggly =D
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    Man, the posted triglyceride numbers make mine look down right terrifying! My last numbers were

    Triglyceride 417 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 150 mg/dL
    Triglyceride is greater than 400. LDL Calculation is invalid and cannot be reported.

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Pretty interesting that your total Cholesterol remains so low. I assume this is without medication?



    Yes that is without medication. My very low HDL and super high triglycerides are what have her (my doc) concerned. I go for a follow up in a couple weeks to see if I have lowered them.

    would you say that you have a high body fat? 35%+

    Probably, I weighed 214lbs when the test was done.

    Well, you're on MFP for a reason. Hopefully you are one of those people that once they drop weight, these types of things disappear. You might even be healthier than most.
  • Wickedfaery73
    Wickedfaery73 Posts: 184 Member
    I sure hope so! I didn't go to the doctor much the last time I lost all this weight. So I don't know what my levels were when I was at a healthy weight. (There's been issues getting complete records transferred. )

    I used a different website to track the last time, but for the life of me I cannot remember the name of it. I like MFP better anyway because of the forums. The last forums I frequented were on WebMD I think.
  • jquizzle10
    jquizzle10 Posts: 18 Member
    @aqsylvester I'm more interested in how compelling the data is regarding cardiovascular risk related to LDL particle composition. If the risk is questionable, why chase an unconfirmed hypothesis (i.e. blood lipid composition) at the expense of a known hazard (i.e. insulin resistance)?
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    Hrvard medical school does not consider lchf the most beneficial choice: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/low-fat-low-carb-or-mediterranean-which-diet-is-right-for-you
    American heart assiciation still recommends not overdoing it in fat and limiting saturated fat: https://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Cholesterol/PreventionTreatmentofHighCholesterol/Know-Your-Fats_UCM_305628_Article.jsp?appName=MobileApp
    I am sure someone will post about them giving outdated advice, however I am also guessing that they have google, access to medical studies, access to research we do not even know exists yet, and can actually interpret these results better than the average poster here.
  • dopeysmelly
    dopeysmelly Posts: 1,390 Member
    edited April 2016
    If you stay within the same daily calories?
    Please provide links.
    I want exact info that shows daily caloric info and changes in cholesterol numbers.
    Not just sites stating that if you replace the SAD junk food diet with this, well,, of coarse.
    Info on diets like the mediterranean, or vegetarian diet vs high fat diet would be nice.
    Which is better for cholesterol?

    NO, a high fat diet INCREASED my cholesterol. This happened when I started eating low carb, high fat paleo. Prior to going paleo, I had normal labs. This was the first time I had dodgy labs.

    On low carb, high fat paleo, I was eating 1500-1700 cals, was around 145 lbs, I'm 5' 4.5". I was mostly sedentary.
    Total Cholesterol - 287 (should be <200)
    LDL - 203 (should be <100)
    HDL - 65 (should be >39)
    Triglycerides - 95 (should be <125)

    Last June, I changed my diet to a plant-based diet, low fat (10%) and high carb (75%). I had become more active, was eating about 1700-2000 cals and at the time of my blood test, I was about 135 lbs.
    Total Cholesterol - 168 (down 41%)
    LDL - 108 (down 47%)
    HDL - 46
    Triglycerides - 71

    So, considering the difference in weight between the two tests was only about 10 lbs, and the calorie intake wasn't vastly different, the improvement in cholesterol can be attributed to reducing fat. Exercise also probably helped. I was previously eating a lot of meat, milk, cheese, eggs and used olive oil when cooking. Now I avoid using oil when cooking and have cut waaay back on animal foods. I still eat chocolates and ice cream as I did before though.

    Again, with my n=1 study. I actually kept dietary fat intake the SAME before and after the two tests below, which were 3-4 weeks apart. The difference was that I switched from full-fat dairy, a moderate amount of meat (with fat on), but no refined carbohydrate/starches, to no meat, non-fat dairy, one or two fish and egg meals a week and fats primarily from vegetable sources (seeds, nuts). I added in at least one serving of tofu or tempeh per day, and took Benecol chews.

    Before:
    Total 301
    HDL 93
    LDL 202
    Tri 32

    After:
    Total 200
    HDL 78
    LDL 115
    Tri 35

    Weight didn't change (I'd already lost the weight and was normal weight), and neither did exercise.

    I essentially switched from a whole foods diet (including meat and dairy and whole grains and vegetables), to whole foods pescatarian (with non-fat dairy only). I've since reduced the amount of fish and eggs (simply from choice), so will have to see what my numbers are like in about a month.

    However, this does suggest that at least for me, the source of dietary fats makes a significant difference.
  • willammoney
    willammoney Posts: 137 Member
    Whoa!
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    If you stay within the same daily calories?
    Please provide links.
    I want exact info that shows daily caloric info and changes in cholesterol numbers.
    Not just sites stating that if you replace the SAD junk food diet with this, well,, of coarse.
    Info on diets like the mediterranean, or vegetarian diet vs high fat diet would be nice.
    Which is better for cholesterol?

    NO, a high fat diet INCREASED my cholesterol. This happened when I started eating low carb, high fat paleo. Prior to going paleo, I had normal labs. This was the first time I had dodgy labs.

    On low carb, high fat paleo, I was eating 1500-1700 cals, was around 145 lbs, I'm 5' 4.5". I was mostly sedentary.
    Total Cholesterol - 287 (should be <200)
    LDL - 203 (should be <100)
    HDL - 65 (should be >39)
    Triglycerides - 95 (should be <125)

    Last June, I changed my diet to a plant-based diet, low fat (10%) and high carb (75%). I had become more active, was eating about 1700-2000 cals and at the time of my blood test, I was about 135 lbs.
    Total Cholesterol - 168 (down 41%)
    LDL - 108 (down 47%)
    HDL - 46
    Triglycerides - 71

    So, considering the difference in weight between the two tests was only about 10 lbs, and the calorie intake wasn't vastly different, the improvement in cholesterol can be attributed to reducing fat. Exercise also probably helped. I was previously eating a lot of meat, milk, cheese, eggs and used olive oil when cooking. Now I avoid using oil when cooking and have cut waaay back on animal foods. I still eat chocolates and ice cream as I did before though.

    Again, with my n=1 study. I actually kept dietary fat intake the SAME before and after the two tests below, which were 3-4 weeks apart. The difference was that I switched from full-fat dairy, a moderate amount of meat (with fat on), but no refined carbohydrate/starches, to no meat, non-fat dairy, one or two fish and egg meals a week and fats primarily from vegetable sources (seeds, nuts). I added in at least one serving of tofu or tempeh per day, and took Benecol chews.

    Before:
    Total 301
    HDL 93
    LDL 202
    Tri 32

    After:
    Total 200
    HDL 78
    LDL 115
    Tri 35

    Weight didn't change (I'd already lost the weight and was normal weight), and neither did exercise.

    I essentially switched from a whole foods diet (including meat and dairy and whole grains and vegetables), to whole foods pescatarian (with non-fat dairy only). I've since reduced the amount of fish and eggs (simply from choice), so will have to see what my numbers are like in about a month.

    However, this does suggest that at least for me, the source of dietary fats makes a significant difference.

    But you started taking Benecol chews. Those are designed to lower cholesterol. Why couldn't the drop be largely because of the chews?
  • dopeysmelly
    dopeysmelly Posts: 1,390 Member
    stealthq wrote: »
    If you stay within the same daily calories?
    Please provide links.
    I want exact info that shows daily caloric info and changes in cholesterol numbers.
    Not just sites stating that if you replace the SAD junk food diet with this, well,, of coarse.
    Info on diets like the mediterranean, or vegetarian diet vs high fat diet would be nice.
    Which is better for cholesterol?

    NO, a high fat diet INCREASED my cholesterol. This happened when I started eating low carb, high fat paleo. Prior to going paleo, I had normal labs. This was the first time I had dodgy labs.

    On low carb, high fat paleo, I was eating 1500-1700 cals, was around 145 lbs, I'm 5' 4.5". I was mostly sedentary.
    Total Cholesterol - 287 (should be <200)
    LDL - 203 (should be <100)
    HDL - 65 (should be >39)
    Triglycerides - 95 (should be <125)

    Last June, I changed my diet to a plant-based diet, low fat (10%) and high carb (75%). I had become more active, was eating about 1700-2000 cals and at the time of my blood test, I was about 135 lbs.
    Total Cholesterol - 168 (down 41%)
    LDL - 108 (down 47%)
    HDL - 46
    Triglycerides - 71

    So, considering the difference in weight between the two tests was only about 10 lbs, and the calorie intake wasn't vastly different, the improvement in cholesterol can be attributed to reducing fat. Exercise also probably helped. I was previously eating a lot of meat, milk, cheese, eggs and used olive oil when cooking. Now I avoid using oil when cooking and have cut waaay back on animal foods. I still eat chocolates and ice cream as I did before though.

    Again, with my n=1 study. I actually kept dietary fat intake the SAME before and after the two tests below, which were 3-4 weeks apart. The difference was that I switched from full-fat dairy, a moderate amount of meat (with fat on), but no refined carbohydrate/starches, to no meat, non-fat dairy, one or two fish and egg meals a week and fats primarily from vegetable sources (seeds, nuts). I added in at least one serving of tofu or tempeh per day, and took Benecol chews.

    Before:
    Total 301
    HDL 93
    LDL 202
    Tri 32

    After:
    Total 200
    HDL 78
    LDL 115
    Tri 35

    Weight didn't change (I'd already lost the weight and was normal weight), and neither did exercise.

    I essentially switched from a whole foods diet (including meat and dairy and whole grains and vegetables), to whole foods pescatarian (with non-fat dairy only). I've since reduced the amount of fish and eggs (simply from choice), so will have to see what my numbers are like in about a month.

    However, this does suggest that at least for me, the source of dietary fats makes a significant difference.

    But you started taking Benecol chews. Those are designed to lower cholesterol. Why couldn't the drop be largely because of the chews?

    Yes. Absolutely, it's possible. It's equally possible that the chews had absolutely no impact whatsoever, and I was wasting my money. LOL. I won't know for another year. I plan on stopping the chews after the next test in a month, and then I'll know their impact when I have my physical the year after.

    Having said that, I'm skeptical that the entirety of the decline in LDL is due to the chews rather than an unknown combination of the chews AND switching to fats from nuts, seeds and a bit of olive oil.

    It's also possible that it's not the saturated fat at all, but something else, like the animal protein intake. Comparing a random day from over a year ago, I consumed over 100g protein, and 20g saturated fat. Currently, my protein intake is nearer half that and all plant-based, and it's a rare day my saturated fat makes it to 10g. I'm less interested in the saturated fat v protein argument rather than finding a way of eating which is healthiest and which I enjoy.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    @dopeysmelly those are some great lab results. Thanks for mentioning the Benecol chews so I will check them out. Wobenzym (systemic enzymes) usage is to improved lipid panel test results as well. Now that I am LCHF I get more of my fats from plants than anytime in my 65 years.

    I could too care less what I eat as long as it is the healthiest for me. It is taking a while but my health and health markers are improving so I know I am the right track for my body at this point in time but it keeps changing as my health keeps improving.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Weight didn't change (I'd already lost the weight and was normal weight), and neither did exercise.

    I essentially switched from a whole foods diet (including meat and dairy and whole grains and vegetables), to whole foods pescatarian (with non-fat dairy only). I've since reduced the amount of fish and eggs (simply from choice), so will have to see what my numbers are like in about a month.

    However, this does suggest that at least for me, the source of dietary fats makes a significant difference.

    Yet another reminder that we're not all cut from the same bolt of cloth.

    Even a dyed-in-the-wool keto proponent like Stephen Phinney tends to remind folks that both LC and LF work for certain people at some points in their lives but not for others.

    With the whole concept of individualized nutrition still in its infancy, we're often fishing in the dark for the right thing to throw in our caldrons. But feeling better, losing weight, and seeing good results on the few standardized tests insurance will cover are still way better than not having any user's manual at all for our own bodies!

  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    In an environment with poor endothelial function Hdl does not function properly thereby negating the effects of everyone's high Hdl, in a nutshell it's function that matters not the amount.

    @willammoney:

    That's a new one on me - thanks for the observation.

    Q - Since lifestyle and diet changes are said to improve endothelial function, would they also improve HDL efficacy?
  • Wickedfaery73
    Wickedfaery73 Posts: 184 Member
    edited May 2016
    I got my new blood work back in case anyone wondered...

    Triglyceride 153 mg/dL
    Cholesterol 155 mg/dL
    HDL Chol 28 mg
    T Chol/HDL Ratio 5.5
    LDL Calc 96 mg/dL

    3 months ago

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal
  • willammoney
    willammoney Posts: 137 Member
    RalfLott wrote: »
    In an environment with poor endothelial function Hdl does not function properly thereby negating the effects of everyone's high Hdl, in a nutshell it's function that matters not the amount.

    @willammoney:

    That's a new one on me - thanks for the observation.

    Q - Since lifestyle and diet changes are said to improve endothelial function, would they also improve HDL efficacy?

    Yes the eflux capacity of Hdl will improve
  • 20yearsyounger
    20yearsyounger Posts: 1,630 Member
    I got my new blood work back in case anyone wondered...

    Triglyceride 153 mg/dL
    Cholesterol 155 mg/dL
    HDL Chol 28 mg
    T Chol/HDL Ratio 5.5
    LDL Calc 96 mg/dL

    3 months ago

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Well done! I had to go back to take a look because I remember you having an incredibly high triglyceride number. Hell of a job getting that down! Less fat floating around in your body. What did your doc say?
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    NO, a high fat diet INCREASED my cholesterol. This happened when I started eating low carb, high fat paleo. Prior to going paleo, I had normal labs. This was the first time I had dodgy labs.
    This was my experience as well...
  • Wickedfaery73
    Wickedfaery73 Posts: 184 Member
    I got my new blood work back in case anyone wondered...

    Triglyceride 153 mg/dL
    Cholesterol 155 mg/dL
    HDL Chol 28 mg
    T Chol/HDL Ratio 5.5
    LDL Calc 96 mg/dL

    3 months ago

    Cholesterol- 184 mg/dL -Standard Range 7 - 200 mg/dL
    HDL Chol- 24 mg/dL -Standard Range 40 - 200 mg/dL
    T Chol/HDL Ratio- 7.7 Standard Range<5.0
    Non HDL Cholesterol- 160 mg/dL -Standard Range 0 - 130 mg/dLTotal

    Well done! I had to go back to take a look because I remember you having an incredibly high triglyceride number. Hell of a job getting that down! Less fat floating around in your body. What did your doc say?


    Well when she saw me and that I was down 28lbs from the last visit, she was practically beaming and said I'm so proud of you! LOL Which is really kind of out of character for her. Then asked what I was doing and I told her the whole counting cals, exercising and watching types and amount of fats and the supplements I take. I think she wanted to make sure I wasnt doing dumb stuff like so many other people do because she was like "good good". I got the results in email and she put "Awesome Job getting these down! Keep it up!"

    I have to admit I kinda liked her being so happy about it LOL
  • MelaniaTrump
    MelaniaTrump Posts: 2,694 Member
    I'm watching the types of fat I eat.
    It seems that too much saturated fat can raise numbers.
    Everything I am finding states so.

    IF the numbers go down on high fat diet, it's because they are losing weight, exercising, and eating less overall calories.
    I found information that people that keep caloric intake the same (and weight the same) can lower their cholesterol numbers by watching saturated fat intake.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    I found information that people that keep caloric intake the same (and weight the same) can lower their cholesterol numbers by watching saturated fat intake.

    Published data ? By "watching" I'm assuming you mean reducing.

    What did they replace the saturated fat with ?