Crossfit.What do people think?
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kimdawnhayden wrote: »
Yep. Dead hang for life.
This is where people need to realize they are 2 distinct and separate movements. Well 3 if you count butterfly pull ups. Its not about which is a "real" pull up. Its about using the appropriate movement for the task at hand.
Next you're going to tell me push presses and military presses are different and one of those isn't wrong and/or cheating...
They are different which you admit by virtue of implying that one is wrong.
With regard to cheating, it depends on the function of the movement. With the push press, the goal is to move the weight from the shoulders to overhead in a safe, efficient and repeatable fashion. The push press meets all of those criteria. The military press does as well (for the most part), but is lacking in the efficiency part. The push press is more of a functional movement as well, which is a cornerstone of the CF concept. The ability to drive from the legs and through the torso to the arms is important for sports and other aspects of life.
The military press may very well be better at focused strength and body building goals. These are not normally an aspiration in the crossfit regimen.0 -
kimdawnhayden wrote: »
Yep. Dead hang for life.
This is where people need to realize they are 2 distinct and separate movements. Well 3 if you count butterfly pull ups. Its not about which is a "real" pull up. Its about using the appropriate movement for the task at hand.
Next you're going to tell me push presses and military presses are different and one of those isn't wrong and/or cheating...
They are different which you admit by virtue of implying that one is wrong.
With regard to cheating, it depends on the function of the movement. With the push press, the goal is to move the weight from the shoulders to overhead in a safe, efficient and repeatable fashion. The push press meets all of those criteria. The military press does as well (for the most part), but is lacking in the efficiency part. The push press is more of a functional movement as well, which is a cornerstone of the CF concept. The ability to drive from the legs and through the torso to the arms is important for sports and other aspects of life.
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I wondered how long before we would get the required animated gif of someone doing kipping pullups. It's a different type of pullup. Some days we are required to do strict pullups. Some days it is a Chest to Bar pullup. Some days it is a muscle up. It is all a progression. A muscle up is a real world useful skill to have. Unlike the real world usefulness of a strict wrist curl.2
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kimdawnhayden wrote: »
Yep. Dead hang for life.
This is where people need to realize they are 2 distinct and separate movements. Well 3 if you count butterfly pull ups. Its not about which is a "real" pull up. Its about using the appropriate movement for the task at hand.
Next you're going to tell me push presses and military presses are different and one of those isn't wrong and/or cheating...
They are different which you admit by virtue of implying that one is wrong.
With regard to cheating, it depends on the function of the movement. With the push press, the goal is to move the weight from the shoulders to overhead in a safe, efficient and repeatable fashion. The push press meets all of those criteria. The military press does as well (for the most part), but is lacking in the efficiency part. The push press is more of a functional movement as well, which is a cornerstone of the CF concept. The ability to drive from the legs and through the torso to the arms is important for sports and other aspects of life.
I can't see the pic but if you are saying you were being sarcastic, then I apologize for not picking up on that.0 -
kimdawnhayden wrote: »
Yep. Dead hang for life.
This is where people need to realize they are 2 distinct and separate movements. Well 3 if you count butterfly pull ups. Its not about which is a "real" pull up. Its about using the appropriate movement for the task at hand.
Next you're going to tell me push presses and military presses are different and one of those isn't wrong and/or cheating...
They are different which you admit by virtue of implying that one is wrong.
With regard to cheating, it depends on the function of the movement. With the push press, the goal is to move the weight from the shoulders to overhead in a safe, efficient and repeatable fashion. The push press meets all of those criteria. The military press does as well (for the most part), but is lacking in the efficiency part. The push press is more of a functional movement as well, which is a cornerstone of the CF concept. The ability to drive from the legs and through the torso to the arms is important for sports and other aspects of life.
I can't see the pic but if you are saying you were being sarcastic, then I apologize for not picking up on that.
Yes, it was completely tongue in cheek.1 -
kimdawnhayden wrote: »
Yep. Dead hang for life.
This is where people need to realize they are 2 distinct and separate movements. Well 3 if you count butterfly pull ups. Its not about which is a "real" pull up. Its about using the appropriate movement for the task at hand.
Next you're going to tell me push presses and military presses are different and one of those isn't wrong and/or cheating...
Because you're right. Push Press is different than a Strict Military Press. Deadlift is different than Sumo Deadlift. Back Squat different than Front Squat. Power Clean different than Squat Clean. And...Strict Pull-ups in all their variations (Narrow Grip, Normal Grip, Wide Grip, Neutral Grip, Chin-up) are different than Kipping Pull-up, Butterfly Pull-up, Muscle-ups, Strict Muscle-ups, Bar Muscle-ups, and Strict Bar Muscle Ups. Did I miss any?
You do all of these different exercises at different times during Cross-Fit. They all have a purpose. You sound stupid when you go straight to Kipping Pull-ups and say they aren't real pull-ups. If you mean Strict Normal Grip, then you're right. So what? Nobody is saying they are the same? Do they get you stronger? Yes. Do they provide a great conditioning work-out, especially when paired with something like Thrusters (which you're right, are not Military Presses, nor Front Squats, nor Cleans)? Heck yea.
I couldn't pay enough to line up a group of CF haters (who laugh at Kipping Pull-ups) and feel it's not good training, and watch them run through Fran. It would be too funny.
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I'm trying to decide who is more defensive: vegans or crossfitters.7
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
Now deceased, of course.5 -
lukehealy_12 wrote: »Just found out there a is a crossfit gym in my town. So i started doing some research and found some mix reviews. What do you lot think? does it really make you as fit as they say they do on all these websites?
Looks like all you'll get are more mixed reviews.
My opinion of CrossFit is that it's not for me, I prefer to run my own program. But there are many people who love CF so clearly there's something beneficial there to be had.
If you find yourself in a rut, or need a jump-start, you could do far worse than CF.2 -
ArmyofAdrian wrote: »lukehealy_12 wrote: »Just found out there a is a crossfit gym in my town. So i started doing some research and found some mix reviews. What do you lot think? does it really make you as fit as they say they do on all these websites?
Looks like all you'll get are more mixed reviews.
My opinion of CrossFit is that it's not for me, I prefer to run my own program. But there are many people who love CF so clearly there's something beneficial there to be had.
If you find yourself in a rut, or need a jump-start, you could do far worse than CF.
Yep. No way to know if it's for you except to try it. Most gyms (I refuse to call it a "box") will let you try a class or 2 for free. I've never done it but I suspect it's like most things: you get out what you put into it.0 -
It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape0
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It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?
1. Science!
2. Worse. So much worse. Crossfit is more dangerous than every other pursuit known to man, perhaps even than everything else combined. It is known.1 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?
1. Science!
2. Worse. So much worse. Crossfit is more dangerous than every other pursuit known to man, perhaps even than everything else combined. It is known.
Except climbing Everest.1 -
Try it, get the proper form down. I go twice a week, spin class, run ultras and marathons, bike, swim, spin class, trx...body flow, lift...it all helps and the good things about classes are the good friends who are in there with you..and I do a lot of the same stuff on my own..try it, find what you like and work hard and enjoy...proper form1
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jofjltncb6 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?
1. Science!
2. Worse. So much worse. Crossfit is more dangerous than every other pursuit known to man, perhaps even than everything else combined. It is known.
Except climbing Everest.
Can you imagine if a vegan crossfitter tried to climb Everest?1 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?
1. Science!
2. Worse. So much worse. Crossfit is more dangerous than every other pursuit known to man, perhaps even than everything else combined. It is known.
Except climbing Everest.
Can you imagine if a vegan crossfitter tried to climb Everest?
They would literally never stop talking about it! Haha
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3dogsrunning wrote: »It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?
Probably from a statistical comparison to other forms of training. It's like any other form of exercise, if it best suits your goals, if you train with intensity, you will see results.
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3dogsrunning wrote: »It averages a 14-18% injury rate, usually due to heavy Olympic lifts preformed at high speeds and repetitions. All I need to know. I definitely respect the few who understand how to preform the lifts, they are in incredible shape
Where does this number come from? How does it compare to other forms of exercise?
Probably from a statistical comparison to other forms of training. It's like any other form of exercise, if it best suits your goals, if you train with intensity, you will see results.
I think they were more asking for a link. Because 87.9458% of all statistics are just fabricated.0
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