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Alluminati wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
Are there any such people on this thread?
I use my (not fake) cat because I like the photo, but there are pictures of me both fat and currently on my profile. I am a work in progress, but one at a healthy BMI (22) despite living in the USA.
Clearly it's aimed at me.
That's fake?! I thought you really were Kermit. My world is shattered.2 -
Alluminati wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
Are there any such people on this thread?
I use my (not fake) cat because I like the photo, but there are pictures of me both fat and currently on my profile. I am a work in progress, but one at a healthy BMI (22) despite living in the USA.
Clearly it's aimed at me.
That's not you? And I was so proud of myself for having a green friend.2 -
Alluminati wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
Are there any such people on this thread?
I use my (not fake) cat because I like the photo, but there are pictures of me both fat and currently on my profile. I am a work in progress, but one at a healthy BMI (22) despite living in the USA.
Clearly it's aimed at me.
Lol i thought he was talking about about steven closers pic. Who the F knows anymore, i don't even have a horse in this race!0 -
Ah, steven is so sneaky. I really thought he had a mouse head! Makes me hungry every time I see him.
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I thought maybe he was also thinking of Tobias. Lol, I don't know either.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Ah, steven is so sneaky. I really thought he had a mouse head! Makes me hungry every time I see him.
(Not really.)
Mouse head!? I always thought it was a horse head. I feel so mislead.0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Ah, steven is so sneaky. I really thought he had a mouse head! Makes me hungry every time I see him.
(Not really.)
Mouse head!? I always thought it was a horse head. I feel so mislead.
https://youtu.be/hs5j8uUR2nc 0 -
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queenliz99 wrote: »3dogsrunning wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Ah, steven is so sneaky. I really thought he had a mouse head! Makes me hungry every time I see him.
(Not really.)
Mouse head!? I always thought it was a horse head. I feel so mislead.https://youtu.be/hs5j8uUR2nc
I'm usually on mobile, they are so tiny.0 -
I wont even click on that video, i'm assuming it has rodents in it? I hate mice and rats more than anything on this planet!!0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
Are there any such people on this thread?
I use my (not fake) cat because I like the photo, but there are pictures of me both fat and currently on my profile. I am a work in progress, but one at a healthy BMI (22) despite living in the USA.
You haven't been doing the trolling. Sorry if I offended you.0 -
Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.2
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Christine_72 wrote: »I wont even click on that video, i'm assuming it has rodents in it? I hate mice and rats more than anything on this planet!!
No rats or mice just koala bears!!0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
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WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
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WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
From what I've seen the ones using the phrase most often are usually the trolls. This thread is a case in point.
See here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling3 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
The people that say it doesn't matter what you eat all the matter is the calories are the ones spreading misinformation. That is exactly the message the world has gotten for the last few decades and all it has resulted in is more obesity.
It matters if you get your sugar form fruit or from a soft drink. It might not make a difference to your calculations but it makes a difference to your liver. In the long run that is what matters. If though it takes decades for sugar to kill doesn't mean that it isn't doing harm.
I boggles my mind the misinformation being spread and then hiding behind CICO. I see some posters actually talking about it reasonably but they are few. Sure it can and does often work, but there are also a lot of other outcomes than just burning fat. Claiming that a calorie deficit always results in fat loss doesn't make it true.
For the record I actually had to study thermodynamics and pass to get my engineering degree. That was a few decades ago, but thermodynamics hasn't changed. Most people talking about the laws of thermodynamics haven't even ever studied thermodynamics.
There are no storage of theories about what is going on with obesity and how to fix it. For working towards improving health CICO can be a useful tool. However one has to realize that not all the foods are treated the same in the body. Claiming that is the case is blatant misinformation.
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sunnybeaches105 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
From what I've seen the ones using the phrase most often are usually the trolls. This thread is a case in point.
See here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
If you read this thread you will see I didn't bring out the word. I was accused of trolling. Some people just can handle someone having a different viewpoint.0 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
The people that say it doesn't matter what you eat all the matter is the calories are the ones spreading misinformation. That is exactly the message the world has gotten for the last few decades and all it has resulted in is more obesity.
It matters if you get your sugar form fruit or from a soft drink. It might not make a difference to your calculations but it makes a difference to your liver. In the long run that is what matters. If though it takes decades for sugar to kill doesn't mean that it isn't doing harm.
I boggles my mind the misinformation being spread and then hiding behind CICO. I see some posters actually talking about it reasonably but they are few. Sure it can and does often work, but there are also a lot of other outcomes than just burning fat. Claiming that a calorie deficit always results in fat loss doesn't make it true.
For the record I actually had to study thermodynamics and pass to get my engineering degree. That was a few decades ago, but thermodynamics hasn't changed. Most people talking about the laws of thermodynamics haven't even ever studied thermodynamics.
There are no storage of theories about what is going on with obesity and how to fix it. For working towards improving health CICO can be a useful tool. However one has to realize that not all the foods are treated the same in the body. Claiming that is the case is blatant misinformation.
Repeating the same nonsense doesn't make it true.
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FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
The people that say it doesn't matter what you eat all the matter is the calories are the ones spreading misinformation. That is exactly the message the world has gotten for the last few decades and all it has resulted in is more obesity.
It matters if you get your sugar form fruit or from a soft drink. It might not make a difference to your calculations but it makes a difference to your liver. In the long run that is what matters. If though it takes decades for sugar to kill doesn't mean that it isn't doing harm.
I boggles my mind the misinformation being spread and then hiding behind CICO. I see some posters actually talking about it reasonably but they are few. Sure it can and does often work, but there are also a lot of other outcomes than just burning fat. Claiming that a calorie deficit always results in fat loss doesn't make it true.
For the record I actually had to study thermodynamics and pass to get my engineering degree. That was a few decades ago, but thermodynamics hasn't changed. Most people talking about the laws of thermodynamics haven't even ever studied thermodynamics.
There are no storage of theories about what is going on with obesity and how to fix it. For working towards improving health CICO can be a useful tool. However one has to realize that not all the foods are treated the same in the body. Claiming that is the case is blatant misinformation.
CICO isn't a "tool".1 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
From what I've seen the ones using the phrase most often are usually the trolls. This thread is a case in point.
See here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
If you read this thread you will see I didn't bring out the word. I was accused of trolling. Some people just can handle someone having a different viewpoint.
I think the phrase "different viewpoint" is somewhat generous for a set of beliefs that are at odds with the weight of the evidence, drizzled with pseudoscience, and often incoherent.4 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
From what I've seen the ones using the phrase most often are usually the trolls. This thread is a case in point.
See here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
If you read this thread you will see I didn't bring out the word. I was accused of trolling. Some people just can handle someone having a different viewpoint.
I think the phrase "different viewpoint" is somewhat generous for a set of beliefs that are at odds with the weight of the evidence, drizzled with pseudoscience, and often incoherent.
Incoherent is a good choice for the posters constantly attaching me and defending adding sugar to food. Most of the posts in this thread are just people attacking others that don't agree with the CICO, a calorie is a calorie mantra. That is pseudoscience to claim that it doesn't matter what you eat, just how much you eat.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
From what I've seen the ones using the phrase most often are usually the trolls. This thread is a case in point.
See here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
If you read this thread you will see I didn't bring out the word. I was accused of trolling. Some people just can handle someone having a different viewpoint.
I think the phrase "different viewpoint" is somewhat generous for a set of beliefs that are at odds with the weight of the evidence, drizzled with pseudoscience, and often incoherent.
Incoherent is a good choice for the posters constantly attaching me and defending adding sugar to food. Most of the posts in this thread are just people attacking others that don't agree with the CICO, a calorie is a calorie mantra. That is pseudoscience to claim that it doesn't matter what you eat, just how much you eat.
CICO is not an argument that it doesn't matter what you eat, nor do I see people in here making that claim. You've missed the mark. Again. You may want to read what has actually been posted.0 -
Once again, correcting misinformation is not attacking. It would be a good idea for you to distinguish the difference. Doing so would end needless suffering...sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
Another item to add to the list of things someone doesn't understand... What is Trolling?
From what I've seen the ones using the phrase most often are usually the trolls. This thread is a case in point.
See here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
If you read this thread you will see I didn't bring out the word. I was accused of trolling. Some people just can handle someone having a different viewpoint.
I think the phrase "different viewpoint" is somewhat generous for a set of beliefs that are at odds with the weight of the evidence, drizzled with pseudoscience, and often incoherent.
Incoherent is a good choice for the posters constantly attaching me and defending adding sugar to food.
In no way does CICO equate to "it does not matter what you eat..."Most of the posts in this thread are just people attacking others that don't agree with the CICO, a calorie is a calorie mantra. That is pseudoscience to claim that it doesn't matter what you eat, just how much you eat.5 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
The people that say it doesn't matter what you eat all the matter is the calories are the ones spreading misinformation. That is exactly the message the world has gotten for the last few decades and all it has resulted in is more obesity.
It matters if you get your sugar form fruit or from a soft drink. It might not make a difference to your calculations but it makes a difference to your liver. In the long run that is what matters. If though it takes decades for sugar to kill doesn't mean that it isn't doing harm.
I boggles my mind the misinformation being spread and then hiding behind CICO. I see some posters actually talking about it reasonably but they are few. Sure it can and does often work, but there are also a lot of other outcomes than just burning fat. Claiming that a calorie deficit always results in fat loss doesn't make it true.
For the record I actually had to study thermodynamics and pass to get my engineering degree. That was a few decades ago, but thermodynamics hasn't changed. Most people talking about the laws of thermodynamics haven't even ever studied thermodynamics.
There are no storage of theories about what is going on with obesity and how to fix it. For working towards improving health CICO can be a useful tool. However one has to realize that not all the foods are treated the same in the body. Claiming that is the case is blatant misinformation.
You watch too many fear mongering movies and read too many blogs...2 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
The people that say it doesn't matter what you eat all the matter is the calories are the ones spreading misinformation. That is exactly the message the world has gotten for the last few decades and all it has resulted in is more obesity.
It matters if you get your sugar form fruit or from a soft drink. It might not make a difference to your calculations but it makes a difference to your liver. In the long run that is what matters. If though it takes decades for sugar to kill doesn't mean that it isn't doing harm.
I boggles my mind the misinformation being spread and then hiding behind CICO. I see some posters actually talking about it reasonably but they are few. Sure it can and does often work, but there are also a lot of other outcomes than just burning fat. Claiming that a calorie deficit always results in fat loss doesn't make it true.
For the record I actually had to study thermodynamics and pass to get my engineering degree. That was a few decades ago, but thermodynamics hasn't changed. Most people talking about the laws of thermodynamics haven't even ever studied thermodynamics.
There are no storage of theories about what is going on with obesity and how to fix it. For working towards improving health CICO can be a useful tool. However one has to realize that not all the foods are treated the same in the body. Claiming that is the case is blatant misinformation.
You watch too many fear mongering movies and read too many blogs...
You have no idea of what I'm doing. I'm not into any form of fear mongering, claiming that is absurd.
From everything I can find there eating fruit is generally protective and good for you. Fructose is bad but when eaten with fruit it isn't harmful but it can be harmful in highly processed food.
So what part of cutting back on added sugars being good is fear mongering? What part of saying it is more important as to what you eat instead of just watching the calories is fear mongering?4 -
I'm with you on that.
So what part of cutting back on added sugars being good is fear mongering? What part of saying it is more important as to what you eat instead of just watching the calories is fear mongering?FunkyTobias wrote: »Correcting your misinformation isn't trolling.
The people that say it doesn't matter what you eat all the matter is the calories are the ones spreading misinformation. That is exactly the message the world has gotten for the last few decades and all it has resulted in is more obesity.
It matters if you get your sugar form fruit or from a soft drink. It might not make a difference to your calculations but it makes a difference to your liver. In the long run that is what matters. If though it takes decades for sugar to kill doesn't mean that it isn't doing harm.
I boggles my mind the misinformation being spread and then hiding behind CICO. I see some posters actually talking about it reasonably but they are few. Sure it can and does often work, but there are also a lot of other outcomes than just burning fat. Claiming that a calorie deficit always results in fat loss doesn't make it true.
For the record I actually had to study thermodynamics and pass to get my engineering degree. That was a few decades ago, but thermodynamics hasn't changed. Most people talking about the laws of thermodynamics haven't even ever studied thermodynamics.
There are no storage of theories about what is going on with obesity and how to fix it. For working towards improving health CICO can be a useful tool. However one has to realize that not all the foods are treated the same in the body. Claiming that is the case is blatant misinformation.
You watch too many fear mongering movies and read too many blogs...
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I should have wrote that "Fructose is bad but when eaten with fruit it probably isn't harmful"
At some point we just have to make a decision what is right for ourselves. For me, I'm going to keep my fruit in my diet. Have to have something that is nice.
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I understand that fructose is only harmful in large amounts and it is almost impossible to overeat fructose by eating fruit! Unless you really want to sit down and eat 2500 calories in fruit!1
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