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Opinions on soy?
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Soy is not easy to avoid in the USA. In fact, my father just bought what he thought was pure extra Virgin olive oil... But the primary ingredient was soy oil!1
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Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
Because it's unsweetened, of course there's no sugar. Almond Breeze vanilla has 10g of sugar, which I wouldn't consider high since my 2% cow milk has 12g.
I thought there may have been naturally occurring sugars floating around in there like in cows milk which is also unsweetened, as honestly i never thought to check the sugar content in my Almond milk.. until now.stevencloser wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »My "opinion" on soy is the same as aspartame, they may say it's safe but i'm erring on the side of caution and choosing not to consume it.
So you're not consuming anything on this list?
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/fdcc/?set=SCOGS
I dare say i consume plenty of things on that list, i only got up to page 3. Honestly i wouldn't be comparing the FDA to FSA, there are many substances available in America that are totally banned here.
But yeah, soy and aspartame are pretty easy to avoid, and that's what i'm doing. The title of this thread is opinions, and i gave mine.
And i know the comeback will be if you believed everything you read you'd be living on air, as there are pro and con articles on everything, and yes i said articles, not studies because i know that will be thrown back at me too. The bottom line is you do you, i'll do me, simples.
Not sure if it's the same in Australia as in the US, but soy is used in many processed foods of all kinds. It's actually suggested that if you are allergic to soy, you should work with a dietitian to plan out your diet, as it can be confusing and difficult to eat a varied diet without consuming soy.0 -
I drank soy once. It was a bad time in my life. After that it was soy binges every weekend.I'd completely lose track of time for over a month! Doing things I'd have never done if I hadn't drank that damnable soy! I already have all the side effects they don't tell you about.
I live in America, and I'm pretty sure the climate and general gravitational forces are making it worse.- I tend to go #1 standing up. (even if there is a perfectly good toilet seat attached!)
- Irritation when my kids ask me for the 30th time if they can have a treat (I used to make it to 32)
- I can't stand temperature more than 90 degrees Celsius
- I haven't checked with my doctor, but I'm sure I have a slower blinking speed since drinking Soy too.
*ahem*
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@kimny72 I wouldn't say it's confusing, or difficult to get a balanced diet. It makes eating out nearly impossible, however, and requires you learn to obsessively read lables and most processed food is simply not an option. If you can't cook with a soy allergy, you really need to learn.0
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Christine_72 wrote: »
E'hm, it's "kittenton"2 -
@kimny72 I wouldn't say it's confusing, or difficult to get a balanced diet. It makes eating out nearly impossible, however, and requires you learn to obsessively read lables and most processed food is simply not an option. If you can't cook with a soy allergy, you really need to learn.
Aha, thanks for clarifying. My cousin has a soy allergy, so maybe she is easily confused
LOL
I am very fortunate to not have any allergies, sensitivities, etc. I really feel for folks who do!0 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »
Because it's unsweetened, of course there's no sugar. Almond Breeze vanilla has 10g of sugar, which I wouldn't consider high since my 2% cow milk has 12g.
I thought there may have been naturally occurring sugars floating around in there like in cows milk which is also unsweetened, as honestly i never thought to check the sugar content in my Almond milk.. until now.stevencloser wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »My "opinion" on soy is the same as aspartame, they may say it's safe but i'm erring on the side of caution and choosing not to consume it.
So you're not consuming anything on this list?
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/fdcc/?set=SCOGS
I dare say i consume plenty of things on that list, i only got up to page 3. Honestly i wouldn't be comparing the FDA to FSA, there are many substances available in America that are totally banned here.
But yeah, soy and aspartame are pretty easy to avoid, and that's what i'm doing. The title of this thread is opinions, and i gave mine.
And i know the comeback will be if you believed everything you read you'd be living on air, as there are pro and con articles on everything, and yes i said articles, not studies because i know that will be thrown back at me too. The bottom line is you do you, i'll do me, simples.
Not sure if it's the same in Australia as in the US, but soy is used in many processed foods of all kinds. It's actually suggested that if you are allergic to soy, you should work with a dietitian to plan out your diet, as it can be confusing and difficult to eat a varied diet without consuming soy.
I just did a big grocery shop, i'm going to go through my cupboards later and check out the ingredient lists in my most used foods.1 -
@kimny72 I wouldn't say it's confusing, or difficult to get a balanced diet. It makes eating out nearly impossible, however, and requires you learn to obsessively read lables and most processed food is simply not an option. If you can't cook with a soy allergy, you really need to learn.
Aha, thanks for clarifying. My cousin has a soy allergy, so maybe she is easily confused LOL
I am very fortunate to not have any allergies, sensitivities, etc. I really feel for folks who do!
I'd recommend to her simply skipping any and all pre-made foods and nearly all processed pre-packaged meal-prep type things. They almost universally have soy in them. I have a few things in my pantry that don't though!
1. Gorton's fish sticks. As far as I know, the only company that doesn't use soy oil in them
2. Prego heart smart pasta sauce. Lower sodium, no soybean oil (which is rare for pasta sauces)
3. Guittard Chocolate Chips. They're a soy-free facility altogether (uses sunflower lecithin)
4. Hawaiian Punch drink mixes. Most drink mixes have soy lecithin (... crystal light... WHY? )
Seriously, I do get "confusing" insofar as learning all the different things soy might be called.
1. anything "soy"
2. lecithin (unspecified source)
3. artificial flavoring
4. natural flavoring
5. vegetable gum
7. vegetable starch
8. vegetable broth
9. bean curd
10. textured vegetable protein
11. hydrolyzed vegetable protein
12. hydrolyzed plant protein
I'm REALLY allergic to the stuff, I can't have anything with soybean oil or soybean proteins (even lecithin) in it, and have been since infancy. It wasn't an issue in my life at all until the late 1990s/early 2000s, when most of the food companies started introducing soy into their product lines. At this point the stuff is fairly ubiquitous and I can safely assume that it's in nearly everything made by a company OR someone else, even bread. Which really irritates me to no end (they use soy flour to dust the baking pans!).
I'm also allergic to peanuts, so my life is one that includes a LOT of label-reading and allergen-querying.0 -
Soy is good just buy organic when it comes to all soy products.1
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arditarose wrote: »This is completely based on my experiences, not science, no data...when I had a high soy intake, my cycle was messed up and menstruation was just ridiculous and painful. Much better when I cut it out. So there's that.
Mine was too! when I drank soy milk, my cramps were SO BAD for 2 - 3 days rather than just a few hours for one day. it was awful. just my personal experience though.
I have fibroids which is caused be producing too much oestrogen. I asked my specialist if I should avoid soya milk and was told no, there's on relation between soya and hormone problems.0 -
Tofu: only on Asian dishes for me (especially Miso soup)
Soy beans: they're okay
Soy sauce: Oh hell yeah!!!
Soy milk: blech. Not for me.
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I wish I could remember where I discovered the Japanese have a digestive enzyme which is lacking in western populations because they historically ate soy in many forms unlike the rest of us who have come to it lately. It was probably on the BBC, Food Programme pages.0
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I wish I could remember where I discovered the Japanese have a digestive enzyme which is lacking in western populations because they historically ate soy in many forms unlike the rest of us who have come to it lately. It was probably on the BBC, Food Programme pages.
Was it on Chanel 4, a programme about superfoods?0 -
Sorry, Radio 4, goes out Sunday lunch times and Mon late afternoons. Most of them are available on listen again but I don't know if its available world wide, UK based here. At the end of June as a two parter, either side of the referendum, was about our digestive biome, the foods we eat now are so much less diverse than in the past, that it is having a devastating effect on our gut health, not simply weight problems. Inside Health also R4 covers many topics, off air at the moment. There have been some cutting edge TV food programmes too. The "Trust Me - i'm a doctor" series, can't remember the channel has some brilliant information in it.0
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I wish I could remember where I discovered the Japanese have a digestive enzyme which is lacking in western populations because they historically ate soy in many forms unlike the rest of us who have come to it lately. It was probably on the BBC, Food Programme pages.
Was it on Chanel 4, a programme about superfoods?
Is it really that much of a stretch, considering what was discovered about the Inuit with certain fats, and the northern Euros about milk?0 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
They feed the farmed fish GMO soy because it is cheap.
Your tirelessness is impressive.3 -
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »Have you tried switching to organic to see if you'll stop having allergies when the soy and peanuts don't have GMOs in them?
I've been allergic to soy since 1978. I'm REALLY certain there were no GMOs in 1978.
And I can't wait for GMO peanuts (which don't exist yet). They're working on allergen-free strains of peanuts through genetic modification. It'll be fantastic.
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Are you willing to put up a large sum of cash to pay for my medical expenses and provide death benefits to my family after giving me advice that if followed is likely to prove fatal?
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I love soy. I'm hypothyroid, I eat soy, and my thyroid levels have been stable on a dose of medication that hasn't changed in decades.0
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »
I thought you were one of these who understood gazebo effects.BreezeDoveal wrote: »Have you tried switching to organic to see if you'll stop having allergies when the soy and peanuts don't have GMOs in them?
I've been allergic to soy since 1978. I'm REALLY certain there were no GMOs in 1978.
And I can't wait for GMO peanuts (which don't exist yet). They're working on allergen-free strains of peanuts through genetic modification. It'll be fantastic.
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Are you willing to put up a large sum of cash to pay for my medical expenses and provide death benefits to my family after giving me advice that if followed is likely to prove fatal?
"gazebo effects"
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BreezeDoveal wrote: »guinevere96 wrote: »BreezeDoveal wrote: »
I thought you were one of these who understood gazebo effects.BreezeDoveal wrote: »Have you tried switching to organic to see if you'll stop having allergies when the soy and peanuts don't have GMOs in them?
I've been allergic to soy since 1978. I'm REALLY certain there were no GMOs in 1978.
And I can't wait for GMO peanuts (which don't exist yet). They're working on allergen-free strains of peanuts through genetic modification. It'll be fantastic.
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Are you willing to put up a large sum of cash to pay for my medical expenses and provide death benefits to my family after giving me advice that if followed is likely to prove fatal?
"gazebo effects"
Yeah. Your knowledge of the outcome casts shade on the results, hence gazebo.
Maybe im just dense but I thought were referring to the placebo effect and possibly mistyped, my apologies if im incorrect.0
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