Subtracting weight

callumwalker1995
callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
edited December 2024 in Food and Nutrition
When weighing food cooked as the packaging says should I subtract the 5g of coconut oil I cooked it in? So 105g of the chicken would be 100 then?
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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Log the oil separately
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I did but wouldn't I subtract 5g from the chicken weight?
  • MarziPanda95
    MarziPanda95 Posts: 1,326 Member
    Why would you, if you cooked 105g of chicken? Or was it 100g of chicken plus 5g of oil? If you cooked 105g of chicken that's what you need to log.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I cooked it in 15g of oil and weighed a third of the portion of chicken after I'd cooked it out at 105, so woukd i subtract a third of the oil (which would be 5g) from the weight as the oil will have made the chicken weigh more?
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Not necessarily. There's no way to tell how much of the oil was absorbed or cooked off during cooking. I think it's highly suggested that you weigh food before cooking due to the various evaporation rates of chicken stock/water during the cooking process depending on cooking temp and time.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    My chicken packaging says per 100g cooked though so I logged it cooked not raw
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Any reason why, if you've got a decent size chicken breast, you're only eating a 3rd of it?!
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    A third of a PACK of chicken breasts
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    A third of a PACK of chicken breasts

    But you're still only eating 100g of it... That's not a lot.

    Use the raw chicken usda entry in the database, enjoy your food!!
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    So is it 105g cooked chicken or 100g chicken +5g oil
  • SassyMommasaurus
    SassyMommasaurus Posts: 380 Member
    Did you weigh the chicken before you cooked it?
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    Oh, for petes sake. Pick one. The oil is only 35 calories! If you're not going to weigh the chicken raw, thern you have to accept some error factor.
  • suzilla53
    suzilla53 Posts: 65 Member
    Omg, let's not make this that hard....
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    No i didn't weigh it before I cooked it. It's important to me because 5g of extra chicken puts me over my protein intake which I didn't want.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    It just annoys me. I have severe anxiety and I need it to be accurate for I peace of mind
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,647 Member
    You can always up your protein goal. These things aren't set in stone.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    It just annoys me. I have severe anxiety and I need it to be accurate for I peace of mind

    Then log 100g
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    It just annoys me. I have severe anxiety and I need it to be accurate for I peace of mind

    Then log 100g

    Pitying me?
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,324 Member
    It just annoys me. I have severe anxiety and I need it to be accurate for I peace of mind

    Respectfully, if it bothers you that much, you should probably not be going this route.

    Calorie and nutrient counts are not 100% accurate, even if you weigh and measure perfectly. There will be differences in water content, fat content, vitamins and minerals, etc. Even if you use USDA entries, they are averages, and can't possibly predict precisely the nutritional content of every chicken breast, or every egg, or every apple.

    Packaged goods are permitted to be up to 20% divergent from actual nutrient content (not intentionally, but again - it's averages) and even basic foods like vegetables will vary due to factors like ripeness, variety, soil conditions, how long ago it was harvested, etc.

  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I know all this but thanks
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    It just annoys me. I have severe anxiety and I need it to be accurate for I peace of mind

    Then log 100g

    Pitying me?

    No, I didn't give you another thought after I typed that message in all honesty.

    What answer would you like someone to give that you would find useful at this stage?
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,324 Member
    I know all this but thanks

    Cool. As to your original post, even if you only have data for cooked weight, you'd have to weigh the chicken raw to get a valid weight, because you have no way to know how much water you cooked out of it. If you cooked it longer or hotter than the reference used to calculate the label weight, your portion will be understand. If you cooked it less, it will be overstated.

    If you really think it's worth the effort:

    1. Weigh all of the chicken raw, and record the weight.
    2. Weigh the piece you are going to eat, and divide it by the total (#1) so you know what percentage of the whole you are eating.
    3. Multiply the serving size on the package by the number of servings on the package to get (what should be, but probably isn't) the total cooked weight of all the chicken if cooked exactly like the reference chicken.
    4. Multiply the total cooked weight (#3) by the percentage you are eating (#2) and that is the number of grams to log.


    Again, it's still not going to be accurate, but at least you'll know you've done all you can do.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I know all this but thanks

    Cool. As to your original post, even if you only have data for cooked weight, you'd have to weigh the chicken raw to get a valid weight, because you have no way to know how much water you cooked out of it. If you cooked it longer or hotter than the reference used to calculate the label weight, your portion will be understand. If you cooked it less, it will be overstated.

    If you really think it's worth the effort:

    1. Weigh all of the chicken raw, and record the weight.
    2. Weigh the piece you are going to eat, and divide it by the total (#1) so you know what percentage of the whole you are eating.
    3. Multiply the serving size on the package by the number of servings on the package to get (what should be, but probably isn't) the total cooked weight of all the chicken if cooked exactly like the reference chicken.
    4. Multiply the total cooked weight (#3) by the percentage you are eating (#2) and that is the number of grams to log.


    Again, it's still not going to be accurate, but at least you'll know you've done all you can do.

    My chicken packaging says per 100g cooked though so how would this work?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    No i didn't weigh it before I cooked it. It's important to me because 5g of extra chicken puts me over my protein intake which I didn't want.

    Protein and fats should both be fixed in your mind as minimums to reach not limits

    Only calories is a limit
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    edited July 2016
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    No i didn't weigh it before I cooked it. It's important to me because 5g of extra chicken puts me over my protein intake which I didn't want.

    Protein and fats should both be fixed in your mind as minimums to reach not limits

    Only calories is a limit

    This^^^

    Going over on protein is fine. IMO if you are using the preset macros as determined by MFP, it's probably a good thing depending on how much you are working out.
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,324 Member
    edited July 2016
    I know all this but thanks

    Cool. As to your original post, even if you only have data for cooked weight, you'd have to weigh the chicken raw to get a valid weight, because you have no way to know how much water you cooked out of it. If you cooked it longer or hotter than the reference used to calculate the label weight, your portion will be understand. If you cooked it less, it will be overstated.

    If you really think it's worth the effort:

    1. Weigh all of the chicken raw, and record the weight.
    2. Weigh the piece you are going to eat, and divide it by the total (#1) so you know what percentage of the whole you are eating.
    3. Multiply the serving size on the package by the number of servings on the package to get (what should be, but probably isn't) the total cooked weight of all the chicken if cooked exactly like the reference chicken.
    4. Multiply the total cooked weight (#3) by the percentage you are eating (#2) and that is the number of grams to log.


    Again, it's still not going to be accurate, but at least you'll know you've done all you can do.

    My chicken packaging says per 100g cooked though so how would this work?

    If it doesn't give any indication of the number of 100g servings or total cooked weight, it wouldn't.

    You are really better off just using the generic raw chicken weight in this case, unless there is some specific seasoning or processing that makes this chicken unique. Not only for convenience, but for accuracy, as cooking losses are probably more meaningful than any nutrient differences between your chicken's labelling and the USDA reference.

    edited for typo and clarity
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I know all this but thanks

    Cool. As to your original post, even if you only have data for cooked weight, you'd have to weigh the chicken raw to get a valid weight, because you have no way to know how much water you cooked out of it. If you cooked it longer or hotter than the reference used to calculate the label weight, your portion will be understand. If you cooked it less, it will be overstated.

    If you really think it's worth the effort:

    1. Weigh all of the chicken raw, and record the weight.
    2. Weigh the piece you are going to eat, and divide it by the total (#1) so you know what percentage of the whole you are eating.
    3. Multiply the serving size on the package by the number of servings on the package to get (what should be, but probably isn't) the total cooked weight of all the chicken if cooked exactly like the reference chicken.
    4. Multiply the total cooked weight (#3) by the percentage you are eating (#2) and that is the number of grams to log.


    Again, it's still not going to be accurate, but at least you'll know you've done all you can do.

    My chicken packaging says per 100g cooked though so how would this work?

    Don't worry about what the package says. Weigh your chicken raw, look up "chicken breast raw USDA" and use this entry for your logging.

    Just and FYI, mfp's protein goals are on the lower side and are a minimum you should hit, many people manually increase their protein %
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    If you want to double check that an entry is correct, go here.

    http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search
  • rainbowfly
    rainbowfly Posts: 21 Member
    The front packaging should say how much it all weighed raw (price is probably calculated using this) so you can just divide that by 3 if you are only eating 1/3, then use the raw chicken breast entry suggested by others to enter the cals. Or use the method MakePeasNotWar suggested for calculating the percentage left after cooking.
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