Substitutes for rice
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And to give my opinion, I eat rice regularly. It is fairly low cal, filling, amd tastes great depending on how it is prepared and what is put on it. I do not eat it for its nutritional value.0
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why is your fall back always mcdonals and big macs? Do you work for burger king or something? This thread is about rice and carbs not big macs and your disdain for mcdonalds....wow..
Also, you always dive bomb the threads with arguments that go to nowhere..so I think you are trolling...and this comes from a professional troll...
this made me laugh so hard!! it's a burger king conspiracy! love it!!0 -
hmmm correct if I am wrong but rice is a grain, so white rice would be a complex carb which should "comprise the majority of your daily carb intake" your words not mine...
Ok let me correct you..White Rice has had the grain removed during the milling process. I explain the process in detail in a previous post. You know instead of just "trolling" the boards to instigate arguments and derail threads.
You are really pretty, but I think you need a drink so you stop getting so upset.
Mimosa?
I'll take a Bellini with grilled cauliflower on the side please, no white rice!
I will make you one of my grilled Cauliburgers. It is like a hamburger, I swears!
I'll take a real hamburger! With a cauliflower mash0 -
I nitpick because you're a "professional" and from one to another, be professional. Our personal "feelings"(calling it garbage) on food don't need to be voiced. You'll never see me do. If I don't agree with a food choice or program, I state why, back it up, then answer questions if asked.Funny how you actually just said you dont nitpick all of my posts. Actually your posts are very aggressive and have nothing to do with the actual OP question. I am allowed to have an opinion without you nitpicking and then rewording everything I post. I also stated many facts throughout this entire thread including the nutritional content of white rice and comparing the content of better substitutions which unlike you actually responds to the OP. I've also posted the actual process for making white rice as well as various reasons why many Asian cultures have white rice as a staple and are able to eat it without the consequences many Americans might have from it. I don't think anything you have said has had anything to do with the OP question, its all been in response to my posts, thus attacking me personally. Just give advice to the OP and move along if you don't have anything to add. if you like white rice and have no substitutions for it, maybe this isn't the thread for you.
While it's nice that you offer information on how food is milled, produced, etc. etc., the attitude toward those that don't eat as "clean" as you is apparent. You don't have to say it, it's that apparent.
I didn't make a suggestion to the OP because most (including you) have given good options. I did interact because I don't like to sit by and let a "professional" give out incorrect information. What caught my eye on the thread was the word RICE, since I eat rice almost everyday.
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I think if you were such a "professional" you might want to practice what you preach. You just admitted you "nitpick" through my posts, so take some words of wisdom from your own advice. I stated my opinion, backed it up, and instead of a normal discussion I got attacked by you and several others and called a person who doesn't like Asians ( even though went to college and lived in Hawaii for 7yrs so I find that just silly). I have no "attitude" towards anyone and am not a spokesmodel for the "eating clean diet". In fact if you actually took the time to read some of my posts I recommend eating foods you enjoy in moderation. What I don't do is tell you that certain foods are healthy, when they are stripped of all their nutritional content. Again, stop nitpicking and making your own assumptions based off things I've never actually said, its not very professional.1 cup of white rice has 204 calories, 0.5g fat, 44g carb (0.5g fiber) and 4g protein.
it's low calorie, satiating, helps give you & your brain ready energy, and even kicks in a modest amount of protein.
how is that "no nutritional content"? what is missing that would make you say that?
keep in mind, this isn't a personal attack, i am just trying to understand your perspective.
Hi BrainyBurro, I discussed this several posts back which I am sure is buried through all this back and forth nonsense. The nutrients in white rice are stripped through milling and put back through fortifying. Whereas grains such as wild rice and quinoa do not go through this process and contain even more nutrients that were not manmade. This was developed to help countries that were nutrient deficient due to a lack of proper food sources. It is my personal opinion and many experts agree that we are better off getting our nutrients straight from the actual source rather than from foods that have been enriched or fortified with vitamins to make them appear to be healthier.
Here is a nice little discussion on it, you are welcome to draw your own conclusions and look into the pro's vs cons, but I think most americans are at the point where we can afford to make better decisions.
http://www.today.com/id/16892345/ns/today-money/t/are-vitamin-fortified-foods-healthier/#.UeA7bkGmiAg0 -
I nitpick because you're a "professional" and from one to another, be professional. Our personal "feelings"(calling it garbage) on food don't need to be voiced. You'll never see me do. If I don't agree with a food choice or program, I state why, back it up, then answer questions if asked.Funny how you actually just said you dont nitpick all of my posts. Actually your posts are very aggressive and have nothing to do with the actual OP question. I am allowed to have an opinion without you nitpicking and then rewording everything I post. I also stated many facts throughout this entire thread including the nutritional content of white rice and comparing the content of better substitutions which unlike you actually responds to the OP. I've also posted the actual process for making white rice as well as various reasons why many Asian cultures have white rice as a staple and are able to eat it without the consequences many Americans might have from it. I don't think anything you have said has had anything to do with the OP question, its all been in response to my posts, thus attacking me personally. Just give advice to the OP and move along if you don't have anything to add. if you like white rice and have no substitutions for it, maybe this isn't the thread for you.
While it's nice that you offer information on how food is milled, produced, etc. etc., the attitude toward those that don't eat as "clean" as you is apparent. You don't have to say it, it's that apparent.
I didn't make a suggestion to the OP because most (including you) have given good options. I did interact because I don't like to sit by and let a "professional" give out incorrect information. What caught my eye on the thread was the word RICE, since I eat rice almost everyday.
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I think if you were such a "professional" you might want to practice what you preach. You just admitted you "nitpick" through my posts, so take some words of wisdom from your own advice. I stated my opinion, backed it up, and instead of a normal discussion I got attacked by you and several others and called a person who doesn't like Asians ( even though went to college and lived in Hawaii for 7yrs so I find that just silly). I have no "attitude" towards anyone and am not a spokesmodel for the "eating clean diet". In fact if you actually took the time to read some of my posts I recommend eating foods you enjoy in moderation. What I don't do is tell you that certain foods are healthy, when they are stripped of all their nutritional content. Again, stop nitpicking and making your own assumptions based off things I've never actually said, its not very professional.
What does graduating from Hawaii have to do it? Because there are Asians there? Ummmm.....not really a valid response to that, just saying.
And as I explained, rice is a very important part of the Asian culture...to the point that it is important in ceremonies and festivals. Calling it garbage is like saying that parts or their culture that relies on rice is garbage.
As for the carbs thing - I suggest you read what an actual dietitian wrote before continuing to spout off on that subject.0 -
I have seen a LOT of fat asians.
yea, they all live in the US and go to mcdonalds three times a day...
yeah, I lived in south east asia for a year and the in the country I lived in they eat white rice 4 meals a day and there were very few obese people - they also ate a lot of fried foods and I did not see a bunch of low fat, non sugar etc stuff in the grocery stores.
Know what else they ate? Small portions0 -
Really I said the entire continent of Asia eats garbage? Please don't put words in my mouth. Now we are stereotyping that all of asia only eats rice? And you do realize there are many different "Asian" cultures as well. The cultures in which you are assuming have diets that are also high in vegetables and protein and very low in sugars and sweets. They also live completely different lives than most sedentary Americans who work a typical desk or computer job. Their primary mode of transportation is walking. There are big differences between our culture and theirs. To make the assumption "Asians eat a lot of rice and stay healthy so we can too". Does not work unless you are taking into account their entire diet and activity level. Asian cultures have a higher daily activity level than those here in America. Do I still think white rice is "garbage" yes I think it has been stripped of all nutrients, fortified with the vitamins that were removed, and contains no fiber. The reason its eaten in such high quantities in many Asian cultures is because of its affordability and accessibility which has in turn made the staple of rice part of their culture. Just like spam became part of Hawaii's culture, but I'm not going to tell you I think its healthy.
Here is a quick little article on taking into account the reasons Asian cultures eat rice and stay thin to the diet of Americans. As you will see many of the points I made are listed, and he lists a few others that are also fair to take note of.
http://www.dietdoctor.com/why-are-asian-rice-eaters-thin
that article is totally biased and does not account for the many people that eat rice in these cultures and are not overly active.
Sure that argument might work for the poorer parts of the population, but when I lived in the Philippines, the wealthier population ate white rice (not brown rice like the article suggests) and they are not working in the fields. Their main mode of transportation was by vehicle - not walking. And at that time (15 or so years ago) the women in particular were not very active (some were but the majority weren't overly active).
They also ate a lot of fried food (or food cooked in oil)
The argument might work for the poorer populations but it is completely ignoring the more affluent populations that are still not obese eating rice and sweets
They did however eat WAY smaller portions than a typical north american
it isn't the rice that makes people fat - it is eating too much of it. Too much of anything will make you fat.0 -
I have never used cauliflower as a sub for rice; but I make some awesome cauliflower mash and its superb!!
Oh wait...I have this recipe for raw Spanish "rice" and it uses cauliflower. it is way good.
Spanish “Rice” Yields: 4 Servings
The cauliflower retains a ricelike shape and texture in this innovative dish (I like this one)
1 head cauliflower
2 ripe tomatoes, diced
1 ripe avocado, peeled, pitted, and mashed or diced
1 orange bell pepper, diced
4 green onions, finely chopped
¼ cup chopped cilantro (or parsley)
¼ cup cold-pressed extra-virgin olive oil
2 TBSP freshly squeezed lemon juice
1 jalapeno chile, minced (optional)
1 TBSP paprika
1 tsp chili powder
1 tsp sea salt
Grate the cauliflower (or chop in a food processor until rice like) and transfer it to a large bowl. Add the other ingredients and mix well. Yummy!
The cauliflower mash is simply:
Steam a medium sized cauliflower w/little sea salt, pepper and garlic (until desired softness; not too mushy but not too al dente)
Puree in your blender or food processor
Add in 1 cup of Fage 0% Plain Yogurt
A little sea salt, pepper & garlic to taste
I add a little I can't believe its not butter spray (use something else if desired or nothing)
And it is DELISH
On another note - have you tried quinoa for rice? I love it; it is the only "grain" that contains a whole protein.0 -
I nitpick through posts on threads I engage in. I'm NOT following you around.:yawn:
I nitpick because you're a "professional" and from one to another, be professional. Our personal "feelings"(calling it garbage) on food don't need to be voiced. You'll never see me do. If I don't agree with a food choice or program, I state why, back it up, then answer questions if asked.Funny how you actually just said you dont nitpick all of my posts. Actually your posts are very aggressive and have nothing to do with the actual OP question. I am allowed to have an opinion without you nitpicking and then rewording everything I post. I also stated many facts throughout this entire thread including the nutritional content of white rice and comparing the content of better substitutions which unlike you actually responds to the OP. I've also posted the actual process for making white rice as well as various reasons why many Asian cultures have white rice as a staple and are able to eat it without the consequences many Americans might have from it. I don't think anything you have said has had anything to do with the OP question, its all been in response to my posts, thus attacking me personally. Just give advice to the OP and move along if you don't have anything to add. if you like white rice and have no substitutions for it, maybe this isn't the thread for you.
While it's nice that you offer information on how food is milled, produced, etc. etc., the attitude toward those that don't eat as "clean" as you is apparent. You don't have to say it, it's that apparent.
I didn't make a suggestion to the OP because most (including you) have given good options. I did interact because I don't like to sit by and let a "professional" give out incorrect information. What caught my eye on the thread was the word RICE, since I eat rice almost everyday.
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I think if you were such a "professional" you might want to practice what you preach. You just admitted you "nitpick" through my posts, so take some words of wisdom from your own advice.
You stated your opinion about rice having no nutritional value and I refuted that it did with evidence. How is that picking on you? I was merely showing that your statement had no merit. Why act like a martyr?I stated my opinion, backed it up, and instead of a normal discussion I got attacked by you and several others and called a person who doesn't like Asians ( even though went to college and lived in Hawaii for 7yrs so I find that just silly).
As mentioned, it's apparent. Why do you think others, not only men here and other posts, question some of your stances?I have no "attitude" towards anyone and am not a spokesmodel for the "eating clean diet".
As long as it's not McDonald's or fast food.:laugh:In fact if you actually took the time to read some of my posts I recommend eating foods you enjoy in moderation.
You're really good at deflecting questions asked of you and making look like you're a victim of circumstance. I haven't questioned anything that you've stated as more nutritionally dense. In fact, I'd back you up on it. Where I question you on several posts is your stance on certain foods with actually no evidence to back it. Quit reading between the lines and look at what is asked of you objectively. And as a professional it shouldn't bother you to be questioned. I don't know everything. In fact I've eaten crow here on the forums on several occasions when confronted with actual evidence by others. I don't take it personally, I find it refreshing that I'm corrected when wrong.What I don't do is tell you that certain foods are healthy, when they are stripped of all their nutritional content. Again, stop nitpicking and making your own assumptions based off things I've never actually said, its not very professional.0 -
I want to know why a professional would advise their clients to eat garbage. Even "in moderation" you still recommend that they eat garbage. What the actual.0
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I think if you were such a "professional" you might want to practice what you preach. You just admitted you "nitpick" through my posts, so take some words of wisdom from your own advice. I stated my opinion, backed it up, and instead of a normal discussion I got attacked by you and several others and called a person who doesn't like Asians ( even though went to college and lived in Hawaii for 7yrs so I find that just silly). I have no "attitude" towards anyone and am not a spokesmodel for the "eating clean diet". In fact if you actually took the time to read some of my posts I recommend eating foods you enjoy in moderation. What I don't do is tell you that certain foods are healthy, when they are stripped of all their nutritional content. Again, stop nitpicking and making your own assumptions based off things I've never actually said, its not very professional.
living in Hawaii is now proof that a person has no ill feelings toward Asians. Got it, thanks. I mean, it's just common sense, right?
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I tried to read thru...I really did....its rice people holy get a freakin life..i'm outta here for today, cant deal w/anymore 6yr old's.0
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I tried to read thru...I really did....its rice people holy get a freakin life..i'm outta here for today, cant deal w/anymore 6yr old's.
Well at least you had enough generosity to grace us with your presence, even if so briefly.0 -
I tried to read thru...I really did....its rice people holy get a freakin life..i'm outta here for today, cant deal w/anymore 6yr old's.
Insulting post is mature?
seems legit.
Thank you for your insults and have a nice day :flowerforyou:0 -
That's all we eat. Cauliflower is so versatile. You can make it into rice, you can cook it a little longer and use a stick blender or food processor and make it into "mashed taters" ... I also use it mixed with cheese and eggs for the crust for pizza. We love cauliflower!
Very new to all of this ... we use Basmati rice on the 'instruction' of my personal trainer. BUT I am curious about this cauliflower pizza crust. Is there a recipe I can follow?? I'm a former New Yorker and I LOVE my pizza but have been instructed to cut my sugars/carbs down.0 -
Really I said the entire continent of Asia eats garbage? Please don't put words in my mouth. Now we are stereotyping that all of asia only eats rice? And you do realize there are many different "Asian" cultures as well. The cultures in which you are assuming have diets that are also high in vegetables and protein and very low in sugars and sweets. They also live completely different lives than most sedentary Americans who work a typical desk or computer job. Their primary mode of transportation is walking. There are big differences between our culture and theirs. To make the assumption "Asians eat a lot of rice and stay healthy so we can too". Does not work unless you are taking into account their entire diet and activity level. Asian cultures have a higher daily activity level than those here in America. Do I still think white rice is "garbage" yes I think it has been stripped of all nutrients, fortified with the vitamins that were removed, and contains no fiber. The reason its eaten in such high quantities in many Asian cultures is because of its affordability and accessibility which has in turn made the staple of rice part of their culture. Just like spam became part of Hawaii's culture, but I'm not going to tell you I think its healthy.
Here is a quick little article on taking into account the reasons Asian cultures eat rice and stay thin to the diet of Americans. As you will see many of the points I made are listed, and he lists a few others that are also fair to take note of.
http://www.dietdoctor.com/why-are-asian-rice-eaters-thin
Well there is an article with all kinds of validated information/facts and quoted/cited sources. I feel more edumacated now as a result. In all seriousness though, there is some very interesting reading in the comments section of that one. And you think arguments around here get brutal.0 -
hmmm correct if I am wrong but rice is a grain, so white rice would be a complex carb which should "comprise the majority of your daily carb intake" your words not mine...
Ok let me correct you..White Rice has had the grain removed during the milling process. I explain the process in detail in a previous post. You know instead of just "trolling" the boards to instigate arguments and derail threads.
me a troll???? bahahahahahahaha that is pretty hilarious coming from you...but we can still admire one another from a far...
So your telling me that white rice is not a grain? If it is not a grain what is it? Also, your previous post mentioned nothing about the milling process? If I mill meat can I make it not a meat?0 -
That's all we eat. Cauliflower is so versatile. You can make it into rice, you can cook it a little longer and use a stick blender or food processor and make it into "mashed taters" ... I also use it mixed with cheese and eggs for the crust for pizza. We love cauliflower!
Very new to all of this ... we use Basmati rice on the 'instruction' of my personal trainer. BUT I am curious about this cauliflower pizza crust. Is there a recipe I can follow?? I'm a former New Yorker and I LOVE my pizza but have been instructed to cut my sugars/carbs down.
If you truly enjoy good pizza, I suspect this substitute crust pizza impostor will not be satisfactory to you...
...but try it and let us know.0 -
I like quinoa alot!0
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Cauliflower is great to make mashed potatoes as well!!0
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Cauliflower is great to make mashed potatoes as well!!0
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Cauliflower is great to make mashed potatoes as well!!
Except that I have yet to find a mashed cauliflower recipe...
...that cannot be improved by...
...substituting potatoes for the cauliflower.0 -
I make "magic rice," which is half rice-half cauliflower. Gives you the rice taste while significantly reducing carbs and cals. I use it all the time in stir-fries and stuff. I also make rice cauliflower for pizza crust, My favorite is to use the purple cauliflower for pizza crust, because it turns a beautiful deep purple in the oven. It's gorgeous with some pesto, tomato, and mozzarella. If you use a mushy bean, like lima or great northern, you don't even have to use cheese in the crust, and it bumps the protein content.0
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Miracle Noodle rice is pretty good. Low or no calories, no carbs, fiber. Texture is weird, and it smells funny until you rinse it, but not bad! They keep you full forever!!! I personally haven't tried the cauliflower rice but fauxtatos (mashed cauliflower) is the bomb!! My bf loves it, so does his daughter!0
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Miracle Noodle rice is pretty good. Low or no calories, no carbs, fiber. Texture is weird, and it smells funny until you rinse it, but not bad! They keep you full forever!!! I personally haven't tried the cauliflower rice but fauxtatos (mashed cauliflower) is the bomb!! My bf loves it, so does his daughter!
no cals, carbs, or fiber, smells funny and has an odd texture? sounds more like something i use when shipping fragile packages than something i would try to eat0 -
Haha now that was 'pretty good'Miracle Noodle rice is pretty good. Low or no calories, no carbs, fiber. Texture is weird, and it smells funny until you rinse it, but not bad! They keep you full forever!!! I personally haven't tried the cauliflower rice but fauxtatos (mashed cauliflower) is the bomb!! My bf loves it, so does his daughter!
no cals, carbs, or fiber, smells funny and has an odd texture? sounds more like something i use when shipping fragile packages than something i would try to eat0 -
So you're saying it's a simple carb?
hmmm correct if I am wrong but rice is a grain, so white rice would be a complex carb which should "comprise the majority of your daily carb intake" your words not mine...
Ok let me correct you..White Rice has had the grain removed during the milling process. I explain the process in detail in a previous post. You know instead of just "trolling" the boards to instigate arguments and derail threads.
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Simple carbohydrates are sugars consisting of one or two units, like fructose, galactose, maltose, and sucrose. Complex carbohydrates have three or more sugars in a chain, like starch, glycogen and fiber. So whoever said that white rice is a complex carb is correct, since it consists mostly of starch. Starch is very nearly as rapidly digested and absorbed as simple sugars are. That's why people who have diabetes need to watch their total carb intake, not just avoid sugar.
I would much rather have rice, but if you're cutting back on carbs, and you can stomach cauliflower as a substitute for rice, more power to you....and good luck!0 -
Miracle Noodle rice is pretty good. Low or no calories, no carbs, fiber. Texture is weird, and it smells funny until you rinse it, but not bad! They keep you full forever!!!
No calories = not food.
Food, by definition, must have calories.0 -
Miracle Noodle rice is pretty good. Low or no calories, no carbs, fiber. Texture is weird, and it smells funny until you rinse it, but not bad! They keep you full forever!!! I personally haven't tried the cauliflower rice but fauxtatos (mashed cauliflower) is the bomb!! My bf loves it, so does his daughter!
Just a quick perusal of their website revealed to me that they don't even know how to spell GLUTEN...
"Zero Net Carbohydrates,
Zero Calories,
No Gulten"
Based on that I would like to pass on this product and spend my cal dollars on real rice or orzo as I suggested earlier. It's just little pastas in the shape of rice. No mysteries. I mean I can overlook spelling on MFP where it's just normal folks talking but if you are gonna make a website and try to sell something and try to convince me it's healthy please get someone to spell check for you so I can believe someone brainy is behind inventing this miracle product and not someone hasty and greedy. (The prices however are stated quite clearly.)0
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