Are bananas and peanut butter a bad thing?

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  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    brichards_ wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!

    what happens if any of those things are present....?
    I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...

    Dairy isn't good for weight loss? Hahaha BS. I'm almost 100lbs and consume lots of daily. If it wasn't for dairy, I wouldn't even meet my daily protein goals.

    The ONLY thing that isn't good for weight loss is consuming too many calories.
  • geneticsteacher
    geneticsteacher Posts: 623 Member
    I am confused, where does the palm oil come in?
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    So many comments and nobody has mentioned palm oil, won't somebody think of the chimpanzees!!

    Actually I should make nice cream for my child, anything that gets more fruit and veg in him.

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  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    brichards_ wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!

    what happens if any of those things are present....?
    I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...

    why/how is dairy bad for weight loss?
    I can't really say it like my research has said it so I'll try my best. Dairy is the breast milk made for baby cows. It is a natural growth formula for the baby cow. A human isn't really meant to breast feed a growth formula from a cow, if that makes sense. It causes, well, growth, like it does for the baby cow. It also causes constipation and bloating due to the fact that the human body doesn't really like having milk and it's hormones and pus cells in it. Usually people are trying to lose fat on their diets, and dairy is high in fat, such as saturated fat. This can be slightly bad towards weight loss goals, although some fat is necessary to eat of course. Eating healthy fats will be better towards the body. Hopefully this makes a little sense?

    Somebody read Skinny B!tch...
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    MeganMeCrazy247 wrote: »
    So I found this awesome recipe online that helps replace ice cream cravings. Basically you freeze a bunch of chopped bananas then blend it with some vanilla extract and a choice of your flavor, in this case I use my Peanut Butter Co. Dark Chocolate Dreams, and it tastes delicious. The thing I'm worried about is if its too much. Basically when it comes down to the ingredients and macro nutrients, I'm eating about 2-3 bananas and 3-4 tbsp of peanut butter along with a tsp of vanilla. Now I feel like that is a lot of bananas. I might even be eating more. I usually eat this when I'm about to exercise a lot or for a post workout smoothie type thing. Anyone have any suggestions or comments, concerns? I don't want to get backed up with bananas to be honest haha, I just feel like with the amount of banana and chocolate peanut butter I'm basically eating the equivalent of chocolate ice cream. What do you think???

    It's probably more calories than a bowl of ice cream...it sounds delicious, but if you're trying to watch calories I really don't see why you would necessarily do this to replace some ice cream.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    edited August 2016
    brichards_ wrote: »
    but now that I'm vegan, I don't need to diet or do calorie defecit because I'm just eating healthy so it's not about dieting anymore.

    If you wish to maintain your weight and or lose weight you'd better believe it's still about calories. Always will be...
    brichards_ wrote: »
    I can be happy and eat whatever I want if it's plant based and not have to feel guilty.
    You drank the cool aid...
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    brichards_ wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    As long as there is no dairy and no processed sugar or corn syrup then it's just fine!

    what happens if any of those things are present....?
    I don't want to sound annoying or pushy but dairy is not good for weightloss, and corn syrup (in a lot of peanut butters) is not healthy. That's my simple way of saying it. Of course she can eat what she wants, but that's my view on them. There's not dairy in either thing she said, I can't recall why I put that but anyways...

    Dairy is just fine for weight loss and there are numerous studies indicating that having 2-3 servings of dairy daily can help control things like diabetes and help regulate blood sugar...and there are plenty of peanut butters without any added sugars at all.

    I ate dairy throughout my weight loss phase and easily dropped 40 Lbs and have had zero issues maintaining that now for almost 3.5 years without logging or anything.
  • The_Original_Beauty
    The_Original_Beauty Posts: 162 Member
    They are AWESOME!!!!
  • Fatal1ty2k5
    Fatal1ty2k5 Posts: 333 Member
    Queenmunchy wrote: »
    The frozen banana with peanut flour was my facorite dessert before. As everyone else said, weigh and log.

    Do you put the peanut flour on the banana pre freezing or as you eat it? Sounds like something right up my alley.

  • Queenmunchy
    Queenmunchy Posts: 3,380 Member
    Fatal1ty2k5 wrote: »
    Queenmunchy wrote: »
    The frozen banana with peanut flour was my facorite dessert before. As everyone else said, weigh and log.

    Do you put the peanut flour on the banana pre freezing or as you eat it? Sounds like something right up my alley.

    @Fatal1ty2k5 I cut and slice the bananas and flash freeze them. Then I take out a few and put it into the food processor with some peanut flour until it has an ice cream consistency. To this day, it's still my daughter's favorite and she's has it since she was old enough to eat solids (almost 9 now).
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  • geneticsteacher
    geneticsteacher Posts: 623 Member
    "Is there a cancer connection?
    Does cow's milk cause cancer or protect against it? There’s no clear link between milk and cancer, one way or the other. Dairy opponents say milk increases breast, prostate and ovarian cancer risks. But only a few studies support this, and many studies have found no increased risk. In addition, milk may reduce colon cancer risks, because of its calcium and vitamin D. For example, a study in the British Journal of Nutrition in 2006 found that people who drank very little milk had a somewhat higher risk of colon cancer than those who drank at least a glass a day."

    From berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/food/lists/8-key-facts-about-milk/slideid_419

    and

    J Am Coll Nutr. 2011 Oct;30(5 Suppl 1):464S-70S.
    Dairy products and cancer.
    Lampe JW1.
    Author information
    Abstract
    Cancer is a group of more than 100 diseases in which cells display uncontrolled growth, invasion, and sometimes metastasis. Milk and dairy products contain micronutrients and several bioactive constituents that may influence cancer risk and progression. Much of the focus of human, population-based studies has been on the effects of intake of milk and total dairy products or of calcium intake. Based on a systematic review of the epidemiologic literature, the World Cancer Research Fund and American Institute for Cancer Research report concluded there was a probable association between milk intake and lower risk of colorectal cancer, a probable association between diets high in calcium and increased risk of prostate cancer, and limited evidence of an association between milk intake and lower risk of bladder cancer. For other cancers, the evidence was mixed or lacking. Since the 2007 report, several additional, large-cohort studies have been published, including two that show an inverse association between intake of cultured dairy products and bladder cancer. Little is known about the potential effect of various bioactives produced during rumen microbe metabolism on cancer risk. Furthermore, studies support a role of live microbes present in some dairy products in the modulation of the human gut microbial community and gut metabolism. Given the growing appreciation for the role of the gut microbial community in relation to immune function and health and disease, including cancer, the potential role of various dairy products in the modulation of the human gut microbiome warrants further evaluation. Key teaching points: As a dietary exposure, dairy products are a complex group of foods and composition varies by region, which makes evaluation of their association with disease risk difficult. For most cancers, associations between cancer risk and intake of milk and dairy products have been examined only in a small number of cohort studies, and data are inconsistent or lacking. Meta-analyses of cohort data available to date support an inverse association between milk intake and risk of colorectal and bladder cancer and a positive association between diets high in calcium and risk of prostate cancer. Other constituents of dairy products, such as rumen-derived metabolites, have not been evaluated extensively for cancer-preventive properties. The influence of live microbes in fermented dairy products and certain cheeses on the human gut microbiome and immune function is a growing area of study.
    PMID: 22081693
  • caradack1985
    caradack1985 Posts: 254 Member
    There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.
    geneticsteacher wrote: »
    I am confused, where does the palm oil come in?
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    So many comments and nobody has mentioned palm oil, won't somebody think of the chimpanzees!!

    Actually I should make nice cream for my child, anything that gets more fruit and veg in him.
    geneticsteacher wrote: »
    I am confused, where does the palm oil come in?
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    So many comments and nobody has mentioned palm oil, won't somebody think of the chimpanzees!!

    Actually I should make nice cream for my child, anything that gets more fruit and veg in him.

  • geneticsteacher
    geneticsteacher Posts: 623 Member
    Do you have valid references for this? Just curious, I have never heard this theory.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.

    Lots of peanut butter is nothing but peanuts or peanuts and salt. The palm oil is used to keep it from separating, so the kinds you have to stir typically won't have it.
  • caradack1985
    caradack1985 Posts: 254 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.

    Lots of peanut butter is nothing but peanuts or peanuts and salt. The palm oil is used to keep it from separating, so the kinds you have to stir typically won't have it.

    I was mostly being facetious! There's palm oil in all sorts of things, for some reason the peanut butter thing stuck so I buy whole earth peanut butter and ignore that it's in pretty much all the chocolate I eat!
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    caradack1985 wrote: »
    There's palm oil in peanut butter, most of it a result of severe deforestation which kills chimpanzees and loads of other animals but there was a big thing about chimpanzees a few years back.

    Lots of peanut butter is nothing but peanuts or peanuts and salt. The palm oil is used to keep it from separating, so the kinds you have to stir typically won't have it.

    I was mostly being facetious! There's palm oil in all sorts of things, for some reason the peanut butter thing stuck so I buy whole earth peanut butter and ignore that it's in pretty much all the chocolate I eat!

    Ah, sorry! I missed it. Sometimes I read too seriously, although I don't intend my own posts to be read that way normally.
  • geneticsteacher
    geneticsteacher Posts: 623 Member
    Ha. Me too.
  • chandraminick
    chandraminick Posts: 452 Member
    I can make a smoothie for 300 calories MAX with chocolate whey, pbfit, banana, frozen blueberries, butternut squash, ground flax seed, cauliflower, zucchini, spinach or kale and other veggies I've experimented with because I use a water base instead of dairy. I save dairy for light cheese sticks. Many veggies can be hidden in a smoothie with a chocolate banana water base, and it will taste like a peanut butter cup.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    edited November 2016
    chandraminick wrote: »
    I can make a smoothie for 300 calories MAX with chocolate whey, pbfit, banana, frozen blueberries, butternut squash, ground flax seed, cauliflower, zucchini, spinach or kale and other veggies I've experimented with because I use a water base instead of dairy. I save dairy for light cheese sticks. Many veggies can be hidden in a smoothie with a chocolate banana water base, and it will taste like a peanut butter cup.
    I think my taste buds might be more discriminating than yours, then. o:)

    I'd rather eat *two* real peanut butter cups for 210 calories, max.

    https://www.hersheys.com/reeses/products/reeses-peanut-butter-cups/milk-chocolate.aspx
  • hstud4
    hstud4 Posts: 1 Member
    bananas and pb are bae <3
  • rontafoya
    rontafoya Posts: 365 Member
    Sounds good to me. These are nutrient dense foods you are eating. If you are able to hit your overall caloric targets while satisfying cravings, you can permamently achieve and maintain goals.

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