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MiriamBlissful
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There's a study I read that proves sugar more addicting than cocaine, the science is there to prove sugar as something that needs moderation. The research and study of the many outweighs that of the few. Sugar isn't nessisarily bad, it just needs to be watched.
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are you going to link to the study? Is it a rat model or an actual trial done on humans...4
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Why the umlauts?6
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Oh, and I'm sure people will mostly agree that sugar should be consumed in moderation. Did you think most people here were arguing for unlimited, immoderation consumption of sugar?
Not sure what that has to do with cocaine unless you think we should be moderate in our consumption of that too.12 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, and I'm sure people will mostly agree that sugar should be consumed in moderation. Did you think most people here were arguing for unlimited, immoderation consumption of sugar?
Not sure what that has to do with cocaine unless you think we should be moderate in our consumption of that too.
Nothing wrong with a little cocaine every now and then, so long as you don't go on a bender. So huh...yeah, I guess it does kinda work like sugar.1 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Oh, and I'm sure people will mostly agree that sugar should be consumed in moderation. Did you think most people here were arguing for unlimited, immoderation consumption of sugar?
Not sure what that has to do with cocaine unless you think we should be moderate in our consumption of that too.
Nothing wrong with a little cocaine every now and then, so long as you don't go on a bender. So huh...yeah, I guess it does kinda work like sugar.
Cocaine is way more '80s than sugar.2 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
Yes. He does cocaine. lol. I love Metalacolypse.1 -
When one withdraws from a substance that's addictive, one goes through withdrawal symptoms. These symptoms are typically the reverse of the effects of the substance; so, for example, when you withdraw from an opiate which dries the mucus membranes and relieves pain, the addict experiences pain and running of the mucus membranes.
So what are the withdrawal symptoms from sugar? I don't believe we covered that in my psychology of addictions class in grad school.
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When one withdraws from a substance that's addictive, one goes through withdrawal symptoms. These symptoms are typically the reverse of the effects of the substance; so, for example, when you withdraw from an opiate which dries the mucus membranes and relieves pain, the addict experiences pain and running of the mucus membranes.
So what are the withdrawal symptoms from sugar? I don't believe we covered that in my psychology of addictions class in grad school.
Actually, there's a long list of symptoms. Feel free to look up how terrible a lot of people feel for the first couple of weeks, when starting a ketogenic diet. Granted, a lot of this has to do with sudden electrolyte imbalance, but the symptoms are there, and reeeeaaally suck if you don't know how to manage them.3 -
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When one withdraws from a substance that's addictive, one goes through withdrawal symptoms. These symptoms are typically the reverse of the effects of the substance; so, for example, when you withdraw from an opiate which dries the mucus membranes and relieves pain, the addict experiences pain and running of the mucus membranes.
So what are the withdrawal symptoms from sugar? I don't believe we covered that in my psychology of addictions class in grad school.
I get stabby and cry at the drop of a hat. I also make hate eyes at my boss when he gives me extra work and whine at my husband that "he never listens to meeeeeeeeeee". This goes on until someone shoves a Hershey kiss in my pie hole so there is no end to the withdrawal.4 -
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Skrillex, is that ü?3
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What?
You mean I need to stop sprinkling sugar on everything I eat?
Is it OK if I continue to clean my teeth with caster sugar? I use the unbleached stuff because it's supposed to be really healthy.3 -
The first and last sentences of the OP cannot coexist.5
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MiriamBlissful wrote: »There's a study I read that proves sugar more addicting than cocaine, the science is there to prove sugar as something that needs moderation. The research and study of the many outweighs that of the few. Sugar isn't nessisarily bad, it just needs to be watched.
You've posted a debate without giving us the context of the study you're referencing. Can you post it here so we can all read it in order to have a more informed discussion? Is it the same one that's been posted, debated, discussed, and debunked to death around here already?2 -
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Here we go again, round and round. I'm diabetic. Sugar has a negative effect one me, in more ways than one. The biggest issue is that the more I eat, the more I want to eat. I don't know or care if its psychological or physiological. Don't care, because I have to cut it out either way. That said, I've withdrawn from caffeine and the withdrawal from sugar was no where near the same. I have no experience with cocaine addiction but I highly doubt its even in the same ballpark as withdrawing from sugar. The entire withdrawal from a high carb diet only lasts a week, tops, and the worst part is tolerable. The last ridiculously long "debate" about this basically came down to some like sugar and can tolerate it well, some like it and can't tolerate it, some like it and aren't giving it up no-way no-how, and some could care less about it either way. The bottom line is that those who are counting calories in the attempts to lose weight are most likely going to be cutting way back on sugar, as it is extremely high in calories but not very filling.
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Dopamine used to be thought of as the addiction endorphin but it is now considered the anticipation endorphin.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh6ceu_dopamine-jackpot-sapolsky-on-the-science-of-pleasure_news
To maximize the dopamine response, imagine finishing that chocolate bar AFTER reaching goal weight.3 -
When one withdraws from a substance that's addictive, one goes through withdrawal symptoms. These symptoms are typically the reverse of the effects of the substance; so, for example, when you withdraw from an opiate which dries the mucus membranes and relieves pain, the addict experiences pain and running of the mucus membranes.
So what are the withdrawal symptoms from sugar? I don't believe we covered that in my psychology of addictions class in grad school.
For me it included a wooziness that was the result of too little electrolytes and my blood sugar stabilizing (yes, I can feel this and I find it unpleasant but tolerable). I was cranky for a few days and I did crave sweets but it went away. I drank water with Crystal Light to offset the worst of the sweet cravings and plain V8 to balance out the electrolytes.0 -
MiriamBlissful wrote: »There's a study I read that proves sugar more addicting than cocaine, the science is there to prove sugar as something that needs moderation. The research and study of the many outweighs that of the few. Sugar isn't nessisarily bad, it just needs to be watched.
Sugar is not more addictive than cocaine or heroin. If it was, there would be sugar rehab clinics popping up everywhere. I'm not being defensive or in denial over my high consumption either, I'm all for cutting down sugar, i am not a "sugar is not a problem unless you have a medical condition" proponent, and even then i still think comparing sugar to narcotics is a far reach.4 -
Did @MiriamBlissful ever come back with a link to the study? If not, can we move this off the debate board?3
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We read stories all the time about sugar addicts, you know all the candy store robberies by addicts needing a fix.
My nephew is in state prison for stealing to support his meth addiction. Sure he'd like to hear how this sugar addiction works.5 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Did you think most people here were arguing for unlimited, immoderation consumption of sugar?
I'm not sure I've ever seen anybody make that argument, here or anywhere else. But in day-to-day life, what you just described is a pretty common approach to eating.1 -
With rats right? This is OLD NEWS and has been debated over and over with the sugar "addiction" having very weak scientific claims.MiriamBlissful wrote: »There's a study I read that proves sugar more addicting than cocaine, the science is there to prove sugar as something that needs moderation. The research and study of the many outweighs that of the few. Sugar isn't nessisarily bad, it just needs to be watched.
It tastes good some some people keep eating it. Same reason why people like hot sauce or salt on everything they eat. Are there any salt or hot sauce "addicts"?
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Sriracha is addicting!!4
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hot sauce would come more under the addiction umbrella because it actually causes an endorphin surge in the brain when you eat it (read that somewhere but can't find the link right now).0
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In other news, sex triggers pleasure in the brain JUST LIKE ADDICTION.4
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