Carbs...are still carbs?

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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    Hornsby wrote: »
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    Says who? I eat plenty of products from those companies.

    Well maybe you if you ate food that didn't come from companies, you could be sub-sub 10% body fat. Like 2% or less. You'd be better than skim milk then.

    Lol - Nice try, but last dexa was in March and I was 6.4%... I'm probably under 6 right now.

    How are your goals going?

    I had two dexa in February and I was 6.3%.

    Are you striated?
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
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    Unknown wrote:

    Dang. I wanna know what that guy said.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    Unknown wrote:

    Dang. I wanna know what that guy said.

    Here is what he said! LOL

    https://youtu.be/9BBZVQ4zBcU
  • ninerbuff
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
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    jackfox68 wrote: »
    Create energy out of nothing? Not following.
    You said that you created a 500 calories deficit and went up a few pounds. How did that energy get created if you were at a deficit of energy.

    It is pretty simple - the fat cells in, having been insulin resistant, are inflamed and increase their metabolic activity. This makes them store even more of the body's incoming energy.

    No, insulin resistance causes cells to be progressively more unable to absorb glucose from the bloodstream.

    Yeah, and since they don't have glucose, they become worried about starvation and begin storing more fat to make up the difference in energy.
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    I've started eating a ton of vegetables over the last week. I found a farmers market and got a lot of celery, cucumbers, zucchini, carrots, and apples.

    Instead of chips and a sandwich, I have a sandwich with carrots and cucumbers.

    I was under the impression that eating low calorie fresh foods would surely be a path to weight loss but the nutritionist disagrees saying veggies are still carbs and you can't lose weight eating carbs.

    This sort of made my head spin... Any input to this?
    Don't talk to a nutritionist. Especially one who states that one can't lose weight eating carbs. Speak to a Registered Dietician.

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    They don't have to be registered. Some people are politically against registering as against their freedoms to dietary advice as they see fit.
    Lol, a Registered Dietician is LICENSED. One who doesn't, isn't. So would rather consult a lawyer who can pass the bar and practice law, or have a lawyer who can't? You have some of the oddest answers to people's questions.

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    Of course. If I could have a lawyer represent me who hadn't passed the bar, I'd know he could win. He's already overcome the laws about needing to pass the bar to represent someone, so I'd be confident that lawyer could overcome the laws I need overcome.
    Lol, good luck with that then. BTW, you do know that it's illegal for a lawyer who hasn't passed the bar (of any particular state) to represent anyone in a court of law? Even licensed lawyers in one state need to be bar admitted to another state or jurisdiction to practice law. BOOM again.

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    Thank you, you've made my point. If the person can already overcome those laws (you can't represent someone without passing the bar) they're a great lawyer, so I'd want them to represent me.
    What point? Lol, how can they represent you if they can't PRACTICE in a court of law? They'd be thrown out of court or jailed immediately. So how are they overcoming the law? :D Again, more weird answers to issues you aren't familiar with.

    OP go with a REGISTERED DIETICIAN. As a fitness professional in the field on a daily basis and working with over 1000 clients who needed help with weight issues, I can emphatically tell you this is the correct choice.

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    They can represent me because they've already overturned the rule that they need a license. If they're so skilled that that they can win their own case, why wouldn't I want them arguing mine?
    Okay. Have fun with that again.

    This all stemmed from OP going to a nutritionist or a registered dietician. One is licensed the other not. One HAD to get a bachelor's degree and pass testing, the other may not have and testing could have been just 3 hours of study and passing an EASY online test. The LOGICAL move would be to go with the one with actual competence to know how to pass a test that gets them a license.

    I'm great at nutrition. I studied it in college. It was just part of my curriculum, but I would ALWAYS defer to a Registered Dietician.

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    Given "food corporations such as Pepsico, Molson Coors, Tim Hortons, Kellogg’s, General Mills, Campbells and Nestle," many RD events, there is a good reason not to use a registered Dietician.
    http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-nutrition-industry-is-full-of-*kitten*/
    Lol, just because you have no idea of how to incorporate those foods into your lifestyle and still be physically fit and healthy, doesn't negate that Registered Dieticians are good professionals in their field.
    What have you contributed to this thread at all? Are you just stalking my posts?

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  • ninerbuff
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    Hornsby wrote: »
    Says who? I eat plenty of products from those companies.

    Well maybe you if you ate food that didn't come from companies, you could be sub-sub 10% body fat. Like 2% or less. You'd be better than skim milk then.
    Lol, he's been at 6% body via Dexa scan. Don't comment on information you don't know. You get to eat crow for that one.

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  • ninerbuff
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    Hornsby wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Says who? I eat plenty of products from those companies.

    Well maybe you if you ate food that didn't come from companies, you could be sub-sub 10% body fat. Like 2% or less. You'd be better than skim milk then.

    Lol - Nice try, but last dexa was in March and I was 6.4%... I'm probably under 6 right now.

    How are your goals going?

    I had two dexa in February and I was 6.3%.
    Well he posted his. Post yours. Unless you're just full of crap and trolling.

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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    Nice! I wondered that as well.
  • dereklsilva
    dereklsilva Posts: 11 Member
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    This whole low carb thing is a myth. Vegetables especially starchy ones (Peppers, potatoes, sweet potatoes ..Etc) are essentials for energy, especially brain energy. Not to mention the benefits of micro nutrients, live enzymes and vitamins. In fact, for a man, if you have an insufficient amount of carbs to protein ratio you actually start losing testosterone quickly. Losing weight is All About Numbers. You could literally eat 1500 calories worth of Doritos a day and lose weight as long as that was all you were eating. I mean you will feel like absolute crap because you're not getting anything your body needs but as far as excess fat you will lose it. The bad carbs that everyone worries about are process sugars and processed grains. Get your carbs from starchy vegetables roughly 30-35% of your intake. Get about 30% from good fat sources like avocados and raw nuts. Finally 35% protein.
  • ouryve
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    "I was under the impression that eating low calorie fresh foods would surely be a path to weight loss but the nutritionist disagrees saying veggies are still carbs and you can't lose weight eating carbs."

    Seeing a "nutritionist" is where you went wrong.

    Eat food, especially veg, log it. If you're not losing weight, you're probably consuming too many calories. Ditch the "nutritionist"
  • ouryve
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    jackfox68 wrote: »
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    ", blood glucose levels stay in the healthy range.

    Once the pancreas produces enough insulin to overcome the resistance what happens to the glucose in your blood stream? Where and how does it get stored?

    It gets taken into cells and is used for energy. It does not get STORED (other than the small amount stored as glycogen) unless you are eating calories in excess of what is needed for metabolism/exercise/TEF, etc.

    Your muscles can only store roughly 300 grams of carbs at a time. If you are already at that limit, then the rest would get stored as fat, no?

    No. It would be used for energy unless you were eating more calories from any source (carbs, protein, fat) than you needed.

    Your body can not store more than 300 grams of carbs (energy) at a given time. Once your muscle cells have reached this limit, any excess energy is going to be stored as fat.

    300g of carbs over and above what is needed for energy is a pretty big pig out, no? We're talking over half a kilo of dairy milk surplus!
  • AFewLionCubs
    AFewLionCubs Posts: 22 Member
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    Thanks everyone. I may be more confused than before... carbs... diabetes... ahh.


    Yes, she did react to the bread from my sandwich. I think she'd have me drinking protein shakes with almond milk and eating plain, skinless, chicken breast each day.

    I do like my protein shakes, and don't want to stop those. But I feel I'm on a diet for a TV show weight loss drama and not am overweight mom.
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
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    Thanks everyone. I may be more confused than before... carbs... diabetes... ahh.


    Yes, she did react to the bread from my sandwich. I think she'd have me drinking protein shakes with almond milk and eating plain, skinless, chicken breast each day.

    I do like my protein shakes, and don't want to stop those. But I feel I'm on a diet for a TV show weight loss drama and not am overweight mom.

    Sorry your thread got derailed, but no, you don't have to worry about carbs unless you have trouble controlling your blood sugar or pcos or something, and you NEVER have to worry about carbs from carrot sticks. That's ridiculous.
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
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    OMG! Your nutritionist is a clown.

    You ABSOLUTELY CAN LOSE WEIGHT EATING CARBS. LOL. WTF IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD. OMG!

    Agreed.
  • chocolate_owl
    chocolate_owl Posts: 1,695 Member
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    Thanks everyone. I may be more confused than before... carbs... diabetes... ahh.


    Yes, she did react to the bread from my sandwich. I think she'd have me drinking protein shakes with almond milk and eating plain, skinless, chicken breast each day.

    I do like my protein shakes, and don't want to stop those. But I feel I'm on a diet for a TV show weight loss drama and not am overweight mom.

    Does that sound like a healthy plan to you or a way you want to eat? Seriously, fire her.

    Protein shakes are fine. I used to make one (with berries and spinach! your nutritionist would hate it) every day until I discovered Quest bars/got tired of cleaning my blender. If you enjoy them, you don't have to give them up. But you don't have to give up veggies, fruit, or bread* either. Especially not veggies.

    *Unless there's a medical condition you haven't mentioned where giving up bread would be a good idea.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
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    Somebody's been watching too many episodes of 'suits'
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,883 Member
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    Carbs per 100g:
    • celery - 3g
    • cucumbers - unpeeled, 4g; peeled, 2g
    • zucchini - 3g
    • carrots - 10g
    • apples - 14g
    Yup. Crawlin' with carbs. They'll kill ya, fer shure.

    I've been eating up to 20 servings (you read that right) of vegetables and fruit a day (sometimes; but usually at least 8-10) and did so while losing weight like a house afire, as long as I stayed within my calorie goal.

    Fire the "nutritionist".
  • amymurray12282
    amymurray12282 Posts: 154 Member
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    until I discovered Quest bars

    Have you tried the white chocolate raspberry kind??? YUM!

  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,411 MFP Moderator
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    Thanks everyone. I may be more confused than before... carbs... diabetes... ahh.


    Yes, she did react to the bread from my sandwich. I think she'd have me drinking protein shakes with almond milk and eating plain, skinless, chicken breast each day.

    I do like my protein shakes, and don't want to stop those. But I feel I'm on a diet for a TV show weight loss drama and not am overweight mom.

    Honestly, the #1 key to a successful diet is following something you enjoy. Nothing beats dietary adherence and improving body composition and increasing activity alone will help combat most diseases. Carbs do not cause health issues. Obesity does. So keep it simple. I eat sandwiches every day, and tons of fruit and have lost 50 lbs throughout my weight loss time. I would highly recommend you getting another opinion because your nutritious is a bit much IMO.