should i increase my fats?

I am currently bulking on about 3700cals with 500g carbs, 215g protein and 86g fat so I am at a ratio of 55% carbs, 24% protein and 21% fat. Now I've researched and regardless of my calorie intake, many recommend 25-35% of your diet should be fats despite minimum of 0.4g per pound of bodyweight. I have not noticed a strength increase from increasing carbs to 500, in fact i'm perhaps more sluggish. Shall I reduce carbs by about 100 and increase fats by about 35g? (it would put me at 400g carbs, 215g protein, 120g fat?
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  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    Anyone?
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Didn't people tell you to eat more fat weeks ago?!
  • CStergion
    CStergion Posts: 5 Member
    mine is Carbs 20%, fats 60%, protein 20%
    I lost fat and gained size in 2 weeks
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    Didn't people tell you to eat more fat weeks ago?!

    No? should I make fat 25% then and carbs 50?
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    CStergion wrote: »

    I don't really understand what its saying - increase fats?
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    Your bulking getting in your minimums perfectly its just time dude it doesn't happen over night without steroids.
  • LazSommer
    LazSommer Posts: 1,851 Member
    I am currently bulking on about 3700cals with 500g carbs, 215g protein and 86g fat so I am at a ratio of 55% carbs, 24% protein and 21% fat. Now I've researched and regardless of my calorie intake, many recommend 25-35% of your diet should be fats despite minimum of 0.4g per pound of bodyweight. I have not noticed a strength increase from increasing carbs to 500, in fact i'm perhaps more sluggish. Shall I reduce carbs by about 100 and increase fats by about 35g? (it would put me at 400g carbs, 215g protein, 120g fat?

    You don't get a strength increase from your macros friendo. The point of a bulk is to give your body an ideal amount of muscle building potential, which means a calorie surplus ensuring that it has no reason not to build muscle. This results in the normal fat gain during a bulk because if you're not gaining any fat you're likely missing out on some muscle growth.

    Basically you get stronger by working hard while eating more. Just eating more doesn't make you go super saiyan. Make sure your program is at an appropriate intensity and you're not pissing in the wind.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yea, what's your lifting plan?
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    Your bulking getting in your minimums perfectly its just time dude it doesn't happen over night without steroids.

    I just feel really sluggish despite being at 500g of carbs that's why I thought I might try lower carbs by about 100g and higher fat by about 35g
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Your bulking getting in your minimums perfectly its just time dude it doesn't happen over night without steroids.

    I just feel really sluggish despite being at 500g of carbs that's why I thought I might try lower carbs by about 100g and higher fat by about 35g

    Try it for a week and see? It surely isn't going to hurt anything.
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    were all different and there is no correct answer just trial and error. I would love to have the answer but the truth is there isn't an answer except maybe in a competition cut. I have over the course of 30 plus years of lifting adjusted my diet many times in the end and at almost 50 its Balance (mind body rest macros calories and kicking *kitten* at the gym..lol..
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Yea, what's your lifting plan?

    Push/Pull/Legs
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Yea, what's your lifting plan?

    Push/Pull/Legs

    That's kinda vague.
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    Chest shoulders tri's (push) Pull Back bi's, legs day off hit it again everything twice a week
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I'm not concerned about my training it's my diet. How does 440 carbs, 115 fat and 220 protein look?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Looks fine.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    48% carbs, 28% fat and 24% protein.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    You're WAY overthinking this.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    You're WAY overthinking this.

    why am I?
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    someone told me it doesn't matter what your macros are, if you are in a caloric surplus you will gain weight regardless so why do people analyse macros so intently?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    someone told me it doesn't matter what your macros are, if you are in a caloric surplus you will gain weight regardless so why do people analyse macros so intently?

    No, it is you who does this.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    someone told me it doesn't matter what your macros are, if you are in a caloric surplus you will gain weight regardless so why do people analyse macros so intently?

    No, it is you who does this.

    so why the hullabaloo over calculating accurate protein/carb/fat intake
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    What hullabaloo?

    Hit minimum protein, don't cut fat too low (some people have reasons to be on a low fat diet, most do better with somewhat more fat), and eat the amount of carbs that you enjoy eating within your calories.

    I aim for 100 g of protein, and eat a diet that I think is healthful and which is enjoyable for me, and let my carbs and fat fall where they do. If I were suffering from low energy or cravings or hungry, I'd change things up, but not just macros, I'd look at other things too.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    someone told me it doesn't matter what your macros are, if you are in a caloric surplus you will gain weight regardless so why do people analyse macros so intently?

    You are the only one who analyses your macros so intently....
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    so is 48% carbs and 24% fat not too high for both?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    The hullabaloo, the hullabaloo
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited August 2016
    so is 48% carbs and 24% fat not too high for both?

    47% carbs and 23.5% fat would be much better.

    j/k, it's fine, as are many, many other possibilities.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    edited August 2016
    queenliz99 wrote: »
    The hullabaloo, the hullabaloo

    We need to use that word more often.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    so is 48% carbs and 24% fat not too high for both?

    47% carbs and 23.5% fat would be much better.

    j/k, it's fine, as are many, many other possibilities.

    yeah i'm just trying to mess around, 500g carbs was making me feel more sluggish tbh so lowered them by 60