Addicted to Diet Coke!
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TheLegendaryBrandonHarris wrote: »What planet did Diet Coke come from?
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »
Yes, now that you have completely changed what you said, you have cleared it up. Thanks
LOL. I thought it was clear that I was discussing fatty salad dressings that "ruin" a day (in my mind it does negate the meal - no matter WHAT is is, if you are throwing 400 calories of fat and a crap-ton of sodium on it) for someone trying to count calories and lose weight. Really, I don't see the mystery.
http://www.modernman.com/5-ingredients-that-ruin-a-healthy-salad/
http://www.kaylaitsines.com/blogs/news/79818502-6-ways-you-are-ruining-your-salads
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-daily-meal/the-healthiest-and-unheal_b_3517759.html
There is evidence that full-fat salad dressing aids in nutrient absorption, so using reduced fat or non-fat dressings can defeat the purpose of eating the healthy, nutrient filled salad in the first place.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/152771617 -
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Yeah no. If you were to only eat "natural" food in it's "natural" state, then it'd be raw. Ever eat raw rice?BreezeDoveal wrote: »
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Chemicals aren't artificial. They are just chemicals. And the "pronouncing" of words should be heeded when selecting food? Go to a chemistry class and read what makes up and apple or banana. If you can pronounce eat chemical without fail, then eat it. If not..............I agree. You should give up Diet Soda. Full of artificial chemicals and what not. Half of those words most of us cannot even pronounce correctly...
Drink Small Batch Craft Beer made from natural ingredients, from Planet Earth, the way it was meant to be.
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »@fitmom4lifemfp How does full fat dressing "ruin" the health benefits of a salad? That's silly.
Okay bad wording. It can RUIN your day, calorie-wise. The salad, being naturally low-calorie, can be completely negated, calorie-wise, with full fat dressing.
To be fair, most people don't think of the health benefits of a salad being limited to (or even being primarily) it being low cal, yet you said: "Full fat dressings are one of the worst things you can eat - completely ruins the salad's health benefits."
I personally wouldn't want a super low cal meal (at least if I weren't trying to make up for some earlier splurge), so even if I have a salad, depending on the meal, I will likely want the overall meal to be about 350-550 calories. If that's mostly from the salad because I add more caloric things, that doesn't take away from the benefit of the salad (which is usually that it provides a balanced and filling meal with lots of vegetables and some protein, as I tend to add protein).
As for full-fat dressing, even a classic vinaigrette would be 1.5 tablespoons of oil for .5 tablespoon of vinegar for 2 tablespoons (quite a lot of dressing). That's about 150 calories, hardly enough to ruin a day, especially if the salad itself is quite low cal, as would often be the case. And of course one can easily add more vinegar/mustard/other add in and less oil (as I normally do).
I ran a homemade ranch recipe, and for 2 TBSP it's even less than the classic vinaigrette, more like 135, and a bit less if you sub 0% greek yogurt for the sour cream.3 -
Chemicals aren't artificial. They are just chemicals. And the "pronouncing" of words should be heeded when selecting food? Go to a chemistry class and read what makes up and apple or banana. If you can pronounce eat chemical without fail, then eat it. If not..............I agree. You should give up Diet Soda. Full of artificial chemicals and what not. Half of those words most of us cannot even pronounce correctly...
Drink Small Batch Craft Beer made from natural ingredients, from Planet Earth, the way it was meant to be.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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As far as ranch dressing goes i use Bolthouse brand its in the refrigerated section. It yogurt based and 45 calories a serving. . My favorite is salsa ranch but the have a few others including regular ranch.3
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Some slapnut brought up ranch dressing and now the whole discussion has gotten sidetracked.8
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TheLegendaryBrandonHarris wrote: »Some slapnut brought up ranch dressing and now the whole discussion has gotten sidetracked.
dang it... now I want wings to go with that Ranch Dressing ....3 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »
Yes, now that you have completely changed what you said, you have cleared it up. Thanks
LOL. I thought it was clear that I was discussing fatty salad dressings that "ruin" a day (in my mind it does negate the meal - no matter WHAT is is, if you are throwing 400 calories of fat and a crap-ton of sodium on it) for someone trying to count calories and lose weight. Really, I don't see the mystery.
http://www.modernman.com/5-ingredients-that-ruin-a-healthy-salad/
http://www.kaylaitsines.com/blogs/news/79818502-6-ways-you-are-ruining-your-salads
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-daily-meal/the-healthiest-and-unheal_b_3517759.html
There is evidence that full-fat salad dressing aids in nutrient absorption, so using reduced fat or non-fat dressings can defeat the purpose of eating the healthy, nutrient filled salad in the first place.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15277161
I always have some sort of fat on my salad (I love a salad with olives, especially), so don't worry about this much, but it is good advice especially for those who may be prone to try and cut calories to a minimum by cutting out both all add-ons that have fat and any fat in the dressing.
Taste is relevant too, of course. I find my dressing just a bit tastier when I add some olive oil (doesn't even have to be much) to the vinegar. A ranch without fat just doesn't seem like it would taste good at all. (Which seems to have been OP's impression too, of course.) ;-)0 -
TheLegendaryBrandonHarris wrote: »Some slapnut brought up ranch dressing and now the whole discussion has gotten sidetracked.
To be fair, it was the OP that brought it up...lol2 -
Eh, I posted the picture of the Ranch Dressing soda
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Dang it, I didn't see it.0
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I also managed to get a screenshot of the post asking everyone what their favorite smelling colon was...3
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I drink diet Coke on the daily, and have steadily lost weight.
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »She said its been linked to adding fat to the stomach area and she wants all natural foods
Yeah...a 0 calorie drink has no impact on weight gain. That's like saying water makes you fat.
LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh.fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Full fat dressings are one of the worst things you can eat - completely ruins the salad's health benefits.
It does not ruin a salad. How exactly would it do that? Do you have any scientific papers that prove this? Does ranch have special absorbing properties where none of the micro nutrients of the salad make it to the stomach? Does ranch dressing disintegrate fiber?
Jesus H Christ. If you can't figure out what I meant, then just ignore it. Oy vey.fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »She said its been linked to adding fat to the stomach area and she wants all natural foods
Yeah...a 0 calorie drink has no impact on weight gain. That's like saying water makes you fat.
LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh.fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Full fat dressings are one of the worst things you can eat - completely ruins the salad's health benefits.
It does not ruin a salad. How exactly would it do that? Do you have any scientific papers that prove this? Does ranch have special absorbing properties where none of the micro nutrients of the salad make it to the stomach? Does ranch dressing disintegrate fiber?
Jesus H Christ. If you can't figure out what I meant, then just ignore it. Oy vey.
Well to be fair, everyone was just going off of what you said. There was nothing to "figure out".
This. But you cleared it up.1 -
TheLegendaryBrandonHarris wrote: »Eh, I posted the picture of the Ranch Dressing soda
That was an impressive find.1 -
When these "addicted to soda"" threads pop up, which is often.. I often question why so many people are addicted to these drinks. People will reply "it's the caffeine", so with that, OP could you substitute your soda with coffee?0
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As with all foods, too much of anything is bad for you. Me personally I always drink diet coke when I go out to eat or something. The main way that diet coke noticeably affects me though, and probably you as well, is my teeth. It messes them up due to the acidic content. So I suggest reducing it.0
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the9a3eedi wrote: »As with all foods, too much of anything is bad for you. Me personally I always drink diet coke when I go out to eat or something. The main way that diet coke noticeably affects me though, and probably you as well, is my teeth. It messes them up due to the acidic content. So I suggest reducing it.
You could try swishing with water after every few sips, or after finishing the can. I'm a big tea drinker, which causes staining. I have my bottle of water right next to my teacup and swish after every 3-4 sips. I'm trying to extend the visits in between dental cleanings. I'm petrified of the dentist :sad:1 -
Its addicting. I was drinking them from the time I got out of bed till went to bed again. I am now down to 3 a day. Much better
Just ran across these post all I can say is WOW to some of these comments. People are so nice. I'm addicted to diet coke and I want to stop, I know if I set my mind to it I could stop, aspartame is not good for you, soda's aren't good for you. In moderation you can have anything but I can't do moderation. I was doing good by drinking 3 a day, then before I new it I was drinking 4, then 5, then I lost count. Oh and BTW I drank at least 64 ounces of water on most days along with all those sodas. So I want to give it up, I do believe it makes me crave sweets. That's me it may not affect others the same way.1 -
Its addicting. I was drinking them from the time I got out of bed till went to bed again. I am now down to 3 a day. Much better
Just ran across these post all I can say is WOW to some of these comments. People are so nice. I'm addicted to diet coke and I want to stop, I know if I set my mind to it I could stop, aspartame is not good for you, soda's aren't good for you. In moderation you can have anything but I can't do moderation. I was doing good by drinking 3 a day, then before I new it I was drinking 4, then 5, then I lost count. Oh and BTW I drank at least 64 ounces of water on most days along with all those sodas. So I want to give it up, I do believe it makes me crave sweets. That's me it may not affect others the same way.
Well if you were looking through the forums for posts about Diet Soda, you probably found dozens of them within the last few months as this is a topic that comes up time and again...
And maybe you didn't stumble across this one yet so let me point you directly to it:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
It is a great summary of the actual science behind how the body processes aspartame and other artificial sweeteners.
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Giving up Diet Coke -- and I was an addict -- has made my dental hygienist very happy. My gums & teeth are in better shape. I gave it up along with other uses of artificial sweeteners because I was one for whom the sweet flavors, without calories to go with them, induced hunger pangs. Diet Coke made me ravenous. I switched to unsweetened flavored seltzers. I still get my fizzy drink fix but without the aspartame, etc. Now, on the very rare occasion I do have a diet soda of any kind it just tastes dreadful to me.2
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There is evidence that full-fat salad dressing aids in nutrient absorption, so using reduced fat or non-fat dressings can defeat the purpose of eating the healthy, nutrient filled salad in the first place.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15277161
If you are suggesting that one should dump things like full-fat ranch dressing on salads, to eat healthier, I cannot agree with that, and I don't interpret any research as stating that either. I have no issues with lower-fat dressings, as long as one pays attention to the other ingredients. It is incorrect to say that "salads are healthier with full-fat dressing". And obviously sugar as main ingredient would not be a good thing. However, remember that you can get those "healthy fats" in something other than salad dressing, too. I see lots of people eating salads out, and loading them up with gobs and gobs of creamy dressings. THAT is the point I was making.
"According to Iowa and Ohio State University researchers, pairing a little bit of fat with your veggies helps the body absorb cancer-fighting and heart-healthy nutrients like lycopene and beta-carotene. Not to mention, “Fat-free dressings often have added sugars or fillers, so even though you’re getting less fat, you’re not always saving calories,” says Marisa Moore, MBA, RDN, LD.
tip: That doesn’t give you an excuse to load up your salad with globs of dressing. Keep calories in check by sticking to two tablespoons of an olive-oil based dressing like Bolthouse Farms Classic Balsamic Olive Oil Vinaigrette, and be sure to steer clear of varieties that use soybean or vegetable oils. They don’t serve up the same health benefits."
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So now I desperately want to try wild cherry diet pepsi. My office provides most any kind of soda you can imagine, and for free, but that is not one of my options, which means I have to go out and spend my OWN dollar on a soda. That's what this thread did for me. So thanks a lot.2
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »There is evidence that full-fat salad dressing aids in nutrient absorption, so using reduced fat or non-fat dressings can defeat the purpose of eating the healthy, nutrient filled salad in the first place.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15277161
If you are suggesting that one should dump things like full-fat ranch dressing on salads, to eat healthier, I cannot agree with that, and I don't interpret any research as stating that either. I have no issues with lower-fat dressings, as long as one pays attention to the other ingredients. It is incorrect to say that "salads are healthier with full-fat dressing". And obviously sugar as main ingredient would not be a good thing. However, remember that you can get those "healthy fats" in something other than salad dressing, too. I see lots of people eating salads out, and loading them up with gobs and gobs of creamy dressings. THAT is the point I was making.
"According to Iowa and Ohio State University researchers, pairing a little bit of fat with your veggies helps the body absorb cancer-fighting and heart-healthy nutrients like lycopene and beta-carotene. Not to mention, “Fat-free dressings often have added sugars or fillers, so even though you’re getting less fat, you’re not always saving calories,” says Marisa Moore, MBA, RDN, LD.
tip: That doesn’t give you an excuse to load up your salad with globs of dressing. Keep calories in check by sticking to two tablespoons of an olive-oil based dressing like Bolthouse Farms Classic Balsamic Olive Oil Vinaigrette, and be sure to steer clear of varieties that use soybean or vegetable oils. They don’t serve up the same health benefits."
I'm pretty sure no one said that we should "load up on" or "dump" ranch dressing all over our salads. But if you have the calories to spare and it tastes good, a serving of it is not going to ruin the health of your salad.
Dumping too much of anything on your salad could be detrimental to your calorie deficit. "Dumping" too much avocado can bring the calorie count up, as can "dumping" olives all over it, or chicken, or almonds, or whole wheat croutons. The trick is to add what you like to make it taste good, just not too much.5 -
JeepHair77 wrote: »So now I desperately want to try wild cherry diet pepsi. My office provides most any kind of soda you can imagine, and for free, but that is not one of my options, which means I have to go out and spend my OWN dollar on a soda. That's what this thread did for me. So thanks a lot.
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TheLegendaryBrandonHarris wrote: »Your doctor is right. You should give up diet Coke because Diet Wild Cherry Pepsi is far better.
Totally gonna get some now, thanks.
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