September (2016) Running Challenge
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9/1- Rest
9/2- 4.13
9/3- 10.03
9/4- 3.02
9/5- Rest driving home from visiting family
9/6- 7.01
9/7- 7.01
9/8- 7.17
9/9- 4.06
Total: 42.43/115
Today's notes: Nice easy recovery run between yesterday's Tempo run and tomorrow's (hopefully) 13 mile Long Run.1 -
5.5 miles last night. 2.5 with Kody, 3.0 solo. The run felt great and NO calf pain!
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Last night's run. I headed out around 6:45 and it was still 84 degrees and super humid. What I've decided to call a bubble wrap run (when it's so humid nothing evaporates off of you and your skin looks like bubble wrap cause it's covered in actual droplets of sweat), lolz. Still, I felt really awesome, and ended up doing this pretty much as a tempo run. It was a nice boost of mental confidence before Sunday's race.
I wasn't planning on tapering for Sunday's race, South Nyack 10 Miler, because I've been so fixated on building my base mileage and my HM on the 25th, but I think it's going to end up happening just a teeny tiny bit and I'm kinda happy about it. I was planning on another 5 miles today, but with how my schedule has worked out I don't think it's going to happen. So now I'm thinking just to do maybe 3 or so super easy miles tomorrow morning, just to keep loose. I'll only have reduced this week's mileage by 2 miles, but I'll also be running tomorrow's 3 at a much easier pace than originally planned.
I'm also looking to shop for a second pair of running shoes, as I'm going to be doing some serious base mile building after my half, and I've heard it's good to have a couple pairs of different shoes in rotation. Currently, I only have my Brooks Glycerins, which have 275 miles on them. Thoughts on this? Do people find this is truly beneficial to do?
Upcoming races:
South Nyack 10 Miler – 9/11
Adirondacks Distance Festival ½ Marathon – 9/25
Sleepy Hollow 10k – 10/22
Bay of Fundy ½ Marathon – 6/25/17
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Date Miles today - Miles for September
9/1 9 miles - 9
9/2 5 miles - 14
9/3 18 miles - 32
9/4 REST DAY
9/5 10.5 miles - 42.5
9/6 9 miles - 51.5
9/7 6.2 miles - 57.7
9/8 10 miles - 67.7
9/8 6.2 miles - 73.9 << Daily Double
9/9 6.2 miles - 80.1
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10
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9/1 - 3.6
9/2 - 6.2
9/3 - 0
9/4 -0
9/5 - 2.6
9/6 - 4.3
9/7 - 4.3
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9/1 - 7 miles
9/2 - 6 miles
9/3 - rest day - cross country meet but I noticed I put in about 3.5 miles running all over the course ha ha
9/4 - 5 awful miles
9/5 - 5 not as awful miles
9/6 - 6 still kinda crappy feeling miles
9/7 - rest day travel to Florida
9/8 - 13 hours of hospital chair sitting
9/9 - 7 miles of Oh My Goodness I needed that after ^^ that day LOL
33 out of 115 miles
too lazy to make my ticker on my brother's computer
Sorry I've been absent. I'm going try to catch up today on the thread.
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@shenry111 - Welcome to the group! I started running at age 55, made it to my first half at age 58 and my first full marathon at 59, so your plans sound quite reasonable to me.
@KatieJane83 - I have 3 pair of shoes in rotation, all of them Saucony Kinvaras. When I found that the Kinvaras worked well for me, I became very reluctant to spend money on some other model that might not do as well. The benefits I see from rotating rather than using the shoes in serial are that they degrade slower, because there are fewer miles put on them; and feeling twinges after running in the white pair that I don't feel after running in the blue or gray pair tells me the white pair is ready for retirement. The aspiration is to retire the shoes before they're bad enough that I injure myself from running in worn out shoes. I don't know how well that would work if the shoes were different models.3 -
Thanks again for all the input and advice re: recovery after long runs. I went running this morning and things are getting back to normal.
Happy TGIF!!!
1/9: 5.74 km + 20 mins yoga + strength exercises
2/9: REST (hungover from the wedding the day before)
3/9: 20.43 km + 20 mins yoga
4/9: REST
5/9: REST
6/9: Life but walked all over
7/9: 5.48 km + 20 mins yoga + strength exercises
8/9: My Bday!!! 20 mins elliptical + 40 mins yoga + 4.61 km in the evening
9/9: 5.49 km + 20 mins yoga + strength exercises
Current PR: 5K in 32:50 / 10K in 1:17:18 / 20K 2:45:11
Races:
24/9: Obstacle Course “Coureur des bois”
20/10-01/11 : Zombies Run! App 2016 Fall Virtual Run3 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »I'm also looking to shop for a second pair of running shoes, as I'm going to be doing some serious base mile building after my half, and I've heard it's good to have a couple pairs of different shoes in rotation. Currently, I only have my Brooks Glycerins, which have 275 miles on them. Thoughts on this? Do people find this is truly beneficial to do?
I have about 6-8 pairs on rotation. Now one of those pairs is a shoe that I only wear for trail running and I have 1 pair that I am supposed to use for speed work. But yes, I need multiple pairs. Especially in the summer when a single run will soak my shoes from so much sweat that they need a day or 2 to dry out.and feeling twinges after running in the white pair that I don't feel after running in the blue or gray pair tells me the white pair is ready for retirement. The aspiration is to retire the shoes before they're bad enough that I injure myself from running in worn out shoes.
The ones that have higher mileage that may be ready for retirement, I tend to use on my recovery and lower mileage runs. Like my second run in a daily double.
The benefit I see in running with different models is that my feet don't get used to a certain style. I have a random way of picking shoes. I first look at the price tag then I put them on and see if they feel OK. I don't have a "favorite model", even though I tend to gravitate to New Balance, but I actually look for the deals and close outs. In the beginning, my feet (and ankles and shins and etc.) may have had to take some time getting used to a new pair, like little pains and aches. But after having worn so many different type of shoes for almost 3 years now, I think my feet now can run in just about anything without any problems.
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Do treadmill runs count?? I always feel like I'm cheating on the treadmill, even though ironically I find it harder than running outside!
Absolutely! My toughest run of the week is usually on the treadmill at a class I go to. Due to the variety of incline and speed work the instructor puts in, it is really challenging. Plus, treadmill runs seem to be mentally the toughest.3 -
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9/3 - 6 First Non-stop 6 since I started back to running.
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9/5 - 3
9/6 -
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9/8 - 3
^^ I can't figure out why the ticker won't show my updated miles
I was hoping to find an active thread, I guess I need to be careful of what I wish for. Trying to keep up!
@katharmonic - Enjoy running in the world's best city! It looks the the temps are going to drop on Saturday, let's hope the humidity does too!
@emmab0902 - Dreadmill miles should count double, they're brutal!
@shenry111 - Welcome!
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Sept 1-5.9 miles + 0.6 miles with puppy
Sept 2-7.5 miles
Sept 3- 14 hilly miles
Sept 4-rest day-long hike
Sept 5-4.0 miles + 0.6 miles with Stella
Sept 6-8.0 miles w/ cruise intervals
Sept 7- rest day (because I needed it!)
Sept 8- 6 miles hills
Sept 9- 4.4 miles dreadmill speed work AM
Yesterday I posted that I was looking forward to a possible evening run in the rain. Well, be careful what you wish for. I headed out after work looking to do about 9 miles easy. The sky was darkening, but the forecast said not to expect rain for a few hours. I decided to stay fairly close to my work in case of sudden thunderstorms, which means lots of hilly terrain. I was cruising along comfortably at about 4 miles in when I reached the bottom of a very long hill. I turned a corner and looked up and noticed that the sky was black. Really black. And the winds were really starting to pick up. I decided that I should turn and head back up the hill and get a bit closer to cover. Not even a quarter of a mile up the hill, boom, the skies just opened up and I was pelted with big old drops of rain. The thunder and the winds and the driving rain were my encouragement to hightail it up that 1.5 mile long hill. I ended up getting back to the parking lot at exactly 6 miles. I was going to finish it out after the rain slowed, but I was so soaking wet and miserable that I just went home. I did my planned speed work on the treadmill this morning, and I will probably make up those last couple of miles with an easy recovery run the afternoon. Still hoping to race that 10K tomorrow, but I haven't registered yet. Since it's an evening run, I am kind of waiting on the weather.
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I've now run 9 days in a row. Tomorrow will be a rest day. The plan has the option to run 30 minutes, but I'm supposed to be in mid-taper. I need the rest more than the miles. I don't need Coach to tell me this, I can figure this one out on my own.
I think that recognizing this is probably one of the hardest yet most critical aspects of successful training and remaining injury free. Good for you.
@shanaber -That's so funny about the shoes!2 -
9/1 - 4 miles. Weather was beautiful! Had to cut it short because I hit snooze too many times.
9/2 - Unplanned rest day. Apparently yesterday's snoozing was due to impending illness. First virus of the new school year.
9/3 - 8.09 mile group run. Again, beautiful weather! Plus, virus seems gone.
9/4 - Normal rest day. Way overate at family picnic.
9/5 - 5.06 miles.
9/6 - Bodypump class, followed by Abs/Core class.
9/7 - 4.03 hot, humid, sticky miles...summer is not over yet!
9/8 - 5.2 miles at Trek/treadmill class.
9/9 - Managed to turn off my alarm and oversleep by 2 hours = no run or spin class
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Just realized I've had 3 rest days already this month...........what a bum. Regarding shoes, as a fairly new runner, I'm beginning to realize the importance of shoes. I switched out a pair of older very light weight running shoes this morning for my new Ghosts and boy did my knee feel better. I was afraid they were a little too large for me but they felt great while running so now I need a new pair of gym shoes because that's where I've been wearing these....LOL
09/01 – Unplanned Rest Day but swam 45 minutes this afternoon (too hot here to run)
09/02 – 3 miles – Pretty slow pace but faster than last run and AVG HR only 139
09/03 – 1.3 miles around basketball court at gym + 90 min strength training
09/04 – 4 miles, middle two faster, AVG HR 148
09/05 – Party Day
09/06 – 3.26 miles – AVG HR 149……….one hill
09/07 – 90 minutes of strength training
09/08 – Rest day
09/09 – 3.3 miles – AVG HR 146, HIGH HR 160 during hill run
Training for my first 10K on Nov 19th2 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »I'm also looking to shop for a second pair of running shoes, as I'm going to be doing some serious base mile building after my half, and I've heard it's good to have a couple pairs of different shoes in rotation. Currently, I only have my Brooks Glycerins, which have 275 miles on them. Thoughts on this? Do people find this is truly beneficial to do?
I definitely think this is beneficial. Get a second pair of a different model (though I see MobyCarp uses three pair of the same model). I use the Brooks Glycerin and I also love the ASICS Air Nimbus. The nice thing is, it doesn't cost you any more to rotate 2 or 3 pair of shoes since you'll still get the same mileage out of each pair. Some say you may even get MORE mileage because the shoe cushioning has a chance to rest longer between runs. I can't say one way or the other myself. I do like that they get a chance to air out longer, though I now put my shoes on a shoe dryer after every single run (with no heat) to help that along.
Some rotate 3 or more pair, but I stick with 2. I like seeing the mileage increase on each pair faster with just two pair. I don't know...perhaps it gives a better sense of accomplishment. I have 65 miles to go on my current pair of ASICS and I'm looking forward to breaking out a new pair when that happens.
Another thing to consider is to time your shoe mileage to your race. By that I mean, don't wear a new pair on a race. Running shoes don't need a break-in period, but there could be a flaw in manufacturing that you DON'T want to find out about during a race. I like to have at least 50 miles on a pair before a race but 25 is probably sufficient.
With 275 miles on your current pair, you may want to get two new pair. Some can go as long as 500 miles but I find 350 is the most I can push the Glycerins. Then again, I'm 210 pounds.
ETA: I forgot to add my mileage meter on my previous post
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It's 11 AM. I'm retired. I have all the time in the world. I feel healthy. It's a beautiful 81º F (27º C) outside. I feel like going for a run. I feel like I could run 5 or 6 miles easy and be fine. Maybe I'd feel like 8 or 10 miles once I get out there. But logic says I need to honor the rest day.
It has started:
9 days to the Rochester Marathon.
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Happy rest day to me! And yes, I AM going to eat that truffle my coworker gave me.
Supposed to storm tomorrow morning. Should be interesting. Gotta have my Saturday run so I can deal with the excruciating parents at my son's bowling league.3 -
@ddmom0811 temps have been pretty nice on this side of the state (Tampa), it was actually "cool" by our standards 2 nights ago. 71 and almost no humidity, lol.1
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MTD:
Distance
98.51 mi (Run and Bike)
Duration
12.51 hrs
Calories
9,828
Burned
Workouts
13
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@KatieJane83 , its a huge help to have a few pair of shoes. My wife laughs and says I have more running shoes than most women have highheels. I always by the same shoe in pairs, my race shoes, trainers, distances shoes. It is never fun trying to break in a new pair of shoes right before a race. Not to mention a pair of shoes you may run through every 3 months might get you 6 months now 1
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@7lenny7 - oh yeah, def aware of the importance of giving shoes a little time. Before I fell into running, I danced all growing up and up until a few years ago (ballet, pointe, hip hop, jazz, tap, etc) so I have a great appreciation for the importance of shoes, lol.
This is the 3rd pair of Glycerins I've been in, I've tended to get them to around 400-500 miles, but they've definitely been very tired by the end. I'm considering stocking up on another pair of Glycerins and then going to a local running store and finding another brand/style to also rotate with. I like the way @Stoshew71 looks at it, in that I feel like it could be beneficial, and might help with injury prevention, if I am adapted to running in more than one shoe style, so that I'm not overly dependent on it, and I can make sure they're not masking certain weaker areas.
Only thing that kills me are the prices, lol. My Glycerins cost me more than my old pointe shoes used to cost, haha.0 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »Only thing that kills me are the prices, lol. My Glycerins cost me more than my old pointe shoes used to cost, haha.
I rarely buy current model shoes. I wear Kinvaras, and I've worn the Kinvara 7 on a demo run so I know it will work for me; but my rotation right now is two pair of Kinvara 5's and one Kinvara 6. I have 3 more pair of Kinvara 6's in boxes waiting to be put into rotation as other shoes wear out. Because I'm buying each model after the next is announced (and usually after the next is released), they cost 30% to 50% less than the current model.
Just a tip I got from a more experienced runner who rotated through 4 pair of Kinvaras. When you train for marathons, you go through a lot of shoes. Watching how to keep them affordable makes a difference to the budget.
@Stoshew71 shops for whatever's on sale; with size 14 feet, it's a waste of my time to look at sales in brick and mortar stores. They'll never have my size. But I can shop for price online, I just have to know what model shoe will work for me.1 -
Thanks @7lenny7 & @shanaber
5.13 miles yesterday
4.01 miles today
I'm going to call yesterday a tempo run - started out intending an easy run, but adrenaline was too high or something - another run down the road (I live in the country, there are no sidewalks -road running means down back roads, where sometimes there's a shoulder, which might need mowed, sometimes you've got the ditch, and sometimes you're just praying no one comes around the turn because there's nothing but solid trees/brush or a drop).
The Reebok AT Thrill shoes I ordered arrived yesterday. I gave them a short test yesterday and they felt pretty good, so I tried them this morning on the trail. I started out really, really liking them, but the last half mile or so, I was noticing pain on the insides of my feet - friction pain, not form pain. It actually felt like a twig or rock had gotten trapped, except it was both feet, in the same spot. The shoes don't have lining in the toe box area, I guess to allow water to drain out the vents along the arch? So the lining material ends right there at the front of my arch, and that's where I felt friction... the edge of the fabric rubs my foot, right through my socks... I'm not sure what to do about it... Lace up tighter? I'm not a fan of tightly laced shoes, but I'm less of a fan of blisters... Tear out the lining? That doesn't seem a good idea. My socks are pretty thick, but I guess I can look for other sock options that might somehow provide more protection? I have to do something. Sad, because the rest of the shoe felt pretty good. It rained yesterday, so the trail was 'dirty' and I'm thinking the shoes are beyond cleaning up to return.
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@MobyCarp - definitely an excellent point regarding previous models. I was actually eyeing the previous model of my Glycerins on Sierra Trading Post but of course they didn't have my width (I need a wide width, which like your size issues, can mean a more limited selection for me). Going to keep looking and price-shopping though, for sure!0
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KatieJane83 wrote: »Only thing that kills me are the prices, lol. My Glycerins cost me more than my old pointe shoes used to cost, haha.
@KatieJane83, I paid full price for my first pair of Glycerins ($150) but since then have paid $75, $70, and $98 by buying them at closeout prices when a newer version comes out. All those are the Glycerin 12's. When I first bought the Glycerin's, a very close second choice was the ASICS Air Nimbus 17 so when I decided to add some variety, I bought those, also on closeout, for $100 and eventually two more pair at $70 each.
Then I found a third shoe, the Nike Air Zoom Pegasus on closeout for $50. Hadn't ever tried them but at that price I could use them for an every day walking around shoe if they didn't work for running. I loved them so much I wore them for my marathon, then bought two more pair at $50 each. Unfortunately when I got my son running I told him to try mine and those were the ones he liked best, not only for running, but for wearing every dang day, so I gave him one of my backup pair as well, and will likely give him my third pair.
I have no idea why shoe manufacturer's feel they need to update the models every year, but I'll take advantage of the cheaper shoes as I stay on the trailing edge of shoe technology.
ETA: @KatieJane83 you probably know this, but make sure you sign up for the Sierra Trading Post emails as they often have codes for additional discounts. The downside is that they send out these emails way too often. I love STP for running gear!
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