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First phase, I believe. The maintenance phase allows for more carbs depending on the person.0
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I don't know. I have no problem with LCHF but I believe you should understand what you're doing in terms of calories and tracking macros by gram. It seems like it'd be way easier to go into maintenance if you understand what that really means, rather than just cutting carbs willy nilly.1
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arditarose wrote: »I don't know. I have no problem with LCHF but I believe you should understand what you're doing in terms of calories and tracking macros by gram. It seems like it'd be way easier to go into maintenance if you understand what that really means, rather than just cutting carbs willy nilly.
Absolutely. I suspect some of the disdain of former low carbers has to do with the fact that they went headlong into low carbing without doing their homework, and, if they lost the weight they wanted, without having a plan for maintenance...Atkins gives one a plan for losing weight and for maintaining weight. I wonder how many folks followed through with the whole plan...2 -
For me personally, not sustainable.
Long term sustainability for me. All foods in moderation. No transitioning to maintenance.
34 months on maintenance @ less than 1/2 of my starting body weight. Works for me so far.0 -
The allowed menu is the exact opposite of what I like, but some people like that kind of food. It doesn't matter, really. In the end it's all about calories and finding ways to manage them.2
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probably one of the worst tools to create a calorie deficit, but if you want to go that route, then knock yourself out. Just don't trick yourself into believing that it is some magical fat burning diet that is superior to normal macros and calorie deficit...1
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I wonder, did you know Dr Atkins was obese when he died? And suffered numerous heart attacks and heart problems? It seems many of these sources are from the UK which may be a factor but;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-192106/Official-Atkins-health-risk.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/you-need-to-eat-carbs
http://www.livestrong.com/article/414187-why-do-we-need-carbohydrates-in-our-diet/0 -
I wonder, did you know Dr Atkins was obese when he died? And suffered numerous heart attacks and heart problems? It seems many of these sources are from the UK which may be a factor but;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-192106/Official-Atkins-health-risk.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/you-need-to-eat-carbs
http://www.livestrong.com/article/414187-why-do-we-need-carbohydrates-in-our-diet/
Links. Got it.
Shall we post some too?
Perhaps more links to actual science...5 -
I don't believe the diet is unhealthy if followed correctly. I've known several people who have lost weight on it, only one that has kept it off (for about 15 years now).0
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I wonder, did you know Dr Atkins was obese when he died? And suffered numerous heart attacks and heart problems? It seems many of these sources are from the UK which may be a factor but;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-192106/Official-Atkins-health-risk.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics
http://www.rd.com/health/diet-weight-loss/why-low-carb-diets-arent-the-answer/
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20359381,00.html
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/the-truth-about-carbs.aspx
http://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/you-need-to-eat-carbs
http://www.livestrong.com/article/414187-why-do-we-need-carbohydrates-in-our-diet/
Hmm. You even quoted a Reader's Digest Article.
These articles are based on past food myths, misperceptions, woo, and some information that is just plain wrong.
Here's a summary of few LCHF studies to start with:
https://authoritynutrition.com/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets/
This was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo
The New Atkins Diet was written by Westman and Phinney. Both are nutritional scientists. It isn't an extreme diet by any means.
And Atkins may have been slightly overweight when he died from a head injury. It does not appear that he was obese. He was also still working as a doctor a few days per week, travelling, and walking the city often. Not bad for your 70s.
It appears he did have some heart issues but so what? Atkins does not claim to cure all heart disease. Perhaps he would have died decades earlier without eating the way he did. Who knows.
Everybody dies of something. All we can do is hope to find the diet that pushes that eventuality back a few extra years. A decade or so if we get lucky too.7 -
Any diet that cuts out macros necessary to function is garbage. I don't care what the results are. Every person I know that has lost weight doing it eventually gains back more than they lost.0
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Any diet that cuts out macros necessary to function is garbage. I don't care what the results are. Every person I know that has lost weight doing it eventually gains back more than they lost.
That's the purpose of any diet: create unsustainable restriction/elimination, dieter loses some weight, they then binge, regain the weight plus more, remember how they lost weight, blame themselves for being unable (not unwilling) to continue the previous diet, then repeat the same cycle of abuse over again. It's basically Stockholm Syndrome!0 -
While it's LC, it's typically so unsustainable low for many; that it might as well be no carbohydrates!0 -
We are a species of hunter gathers and have evolved over thousands of years from a diet involving lots of carbs. And in the last 30 years or so "low carb" has been invented and all of a sudden that's healthy! Well enough said on this matter for me. Let's agree to disagree0
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We are a species of hunter gathers and have evolved over thousands of years from a diet involving lots of carbs. And in the last 30 years or so "low carb" has been invented and all of a sudden that's healthy! Well enough said on this matter for me. Let's agree to disagree
Low carb was "invented" in the last 30 years or so? You may need to check your facts on that one.
Hint: Do a Google search for "William Banting", for starters. The year 1863 may or may not figure prominently.6 -
Ok become extremely popular in the last 30 years. Even 1863 is a mere blip on the evolution of humans. We evolved from apes, not slugs0
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I started New Atkins around 4 months ago. I've since upped my carb intake from the suggested 20g in induction to around 50g and am still losing albeit no longer strictly following Atkins principles - more generic LCHF eating I guess.
In the interests of full disclosure, I was/am a complete sugar junkie and am still prone to sugar binges. The "allowed" foods on the Atkins (or any other LCHF plan) keep me full and most importantly, in line with my calorie goals. I don't feel deprived, I am eating far more healthily than I did before I started watching my intake (hello, green leafy veg in abundance!), I don't have energy slumps throughout the day any more and my skin is better.
I'm not for a minute suggesting that it is a miracle diet, nor am I suggesting that it is the only or best way of eating. All I know is that for me, as a person that struggles with moderation and will power, when I eat this way I find it easier to resist temptation (most of the time!), I lose at a steady rate and it fits in with my lifestyle. Everybody is different though and there is no one size fits all.7 -
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