How bad would someone's form need to be for you to say something?
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When I was overweight, I had people giving me unsolicited advice all the time. They felt comfortable with telling the "fat girl" how to do it. I put up with it back then, because I had low self esteem. I'm waiting for someone to do it now, so I can punch them in the nose. Hasn't happened yet. If you feel the need to give someone advice, don't. Mind your own business. You're truly not as awesome as you think you are.8
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When I was overweight, I had people giving me unsolicited advice all the time. They felt comfortable with telling the "fat girl" how to do it. I put up with it back then, because I had low self esteem. I'm waiting for someone to do it now, so I can punch them in the nose. Hasn't happened yet. If you feel the need to give someone advice, don't. Mind your own business. You're truly not as awesome as you think you are.
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Unless you're a certified individual probably should not be saying anything. How do you know you're any more knowledgeable than they are
If really think its dangerous tell a staff member.2 -
When I was overweight, I had people giving me unsolicited advice all the time. They felt comfortable with telling the "fat girl" how to do it. I put up with it back then, because I had low self esteem. I'm waiting for someone to do it now, so I can punch them in the nose. Hasn't happened yet. If you feel the need to give someone advice, don't. Mind your own business. You're truly not as awesome as you think you are.
Clearly you haven't met someone like me. (Not actually me, just an example of awesome)
As for this thread, I might roll my eyes at someone using a bosuball. But that's about it.4 -
When I was overweight, I had people giving me unsolicited advice all the time. They felt comfortable with telling the "fat girl" how to do it. I put up with it back then, because I had low self esteem. I'm waiting for someone to do it now, so I can punch them in the nose. Hasn't happened yet. If you feel the need to give someone advice, don't. Mind your own business. You're truly not as awesome as you think you are.
Really?? You would "punch someone in the nose". Stop it - you would not. I'm glad your self-confidence has improved, but you may want to do some soul searching on whether the pendulum has swung too far the other way.
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deluxmary2000 wrote: »When I was overweight, I had people giving me unsolicited advice all the time. They felt comfortable with telling the "fat girl" how to do it. I put up with it back then, because I had low self esteem. I'm waiting for someone to do it now, so I can punch them in the nose. Hasn't happened yet. If you feel the need to give someone advice, don't. Mind your own business. You're truly not as awesome as you think you are.
Really?? You would "punch someone in the nose". Stop it - you would not. I'm glad your self-confidence has improved, but you may want to do some soul searching on whether the pendulum has swung too far the other way.
Ok, Maybe not actually punch them...but boy I'd give them an ear full ;-)3 -
Good input/insight from everyone. As I mentioned in my OP, I wasn't planning on saying anything, but I was wondering how other people felt.
Oh, and a couple people mentioned saying something if he was at danger of hurting OTHERS. This is about the only instance where I would correct someone.2 -
deluxmary2000 wrote: »Good input/insight from everyone. As I mentioned in my OP, I wasn't planning on saying anything, but I was wondering how other people felt.
Oh, and a couple people mentioned saying something if he was at danger of hurting OTHERS. This is about the only instance where I would correct someone.
And obviously my response was not directed at you, personally...it was a generalized "you".. because clearly you are awesome ;-) It's a good question, and one that people really do need to think about
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If the person is going to injury themselves I would say something to them if I was close enough. Otherwise I would tell a trainer I guess if they are there.
For some an injury could be enough for that person to say "this isn't for me" and they give up.1 -
deluxmary2000 wrote: »Good input/insight from everyone. As I mentioned in my OP, I wasn't planning on saying anything, but I was wondering how other people felt.
Oh, and a couple people mentioned saying something if he was at danger of hurting OTHERS. This is about the only instance where I would correct someone.
And obviously my response was not directed at you, personally...it was a generalized "you".. because clearly you are awesome ;-) It's a good question, and one that people really do need to think about
Hah - well OBVIOUSLY. Because I am as awesome as I think I am
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You know how you all say to tell the gym staff
Are all your gym staff trained then, mine aren't ...a couple of them are trainers, but the the type of trainers who show people how to use the equipment, give them a standard workout routine and sometimes count reps
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »ArmsandCharms wrote: »LOL. I often wonder this. There was a lady yesterday that was doing something crazy on the leg press and I thought she was going to kill herself. i didn't say anything. I just videoed it. lol. Probably wrong of me, but it was funny.
That's pretty messed up.
those gym fail videos almost EVERYONE watches don't make themselves you know.
Granted I wouldn't do it- but I'm not going to sit here and side eye someone else for it.4 -
Even my trainer won't approach non clients in the gym
Even when really concerned about potential injury
I've had to convince him to try with one woman who squats very heavy but is going to blow a knee out because they just buckle inwards
When I was a certified trainer- it was actually harder and more uncomfortable to approach people.
People assume you know very little- and or are trying to hook you as a client.
My personal theory about helping people?
only if there is a reasonable "in"- meaning they've asked for help- or are clearly struggling with the information and I have a good reason to say something- and I'm willing to stand there and work with them for a minute- because honestly- some days I'm not.
(I remember watching a dad/son team looking up pendlay rows for more information- I fortunately had a reason to talk to them at some point and was able to interject a LITTLE information for them to take back and continue to research)
But I never presume to walk up to someone and just give them information.1 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »ArmsandCharms wrote: »LOL. I often wonder this. There was a lady yesterday that was doing something crazy on the leg press and I thought she was going to kill herself. i didn't say anything. I just videoed it. lol. Probably wrong of me, but it was funny.
That's pretty messed up.
those gym fail videos almost EVERYONE watches don't make themselves you know.
Granted I wouldn't do it- but I'm not going to sit here and side eye someone else for it.
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deluxmary2000 wrote: »Oh, and a couple people mentioned saying something if he was at danger of hurting OTHERS. This is about the only instance where I would correct someone.
the worst dilemma for me is the new-year/valentines syndrome where some dude has brought his girlfriend in to be taught how to do stuff that will make her so awesome the bros will all envy him, and he's doing it wrong. worst of the worst of that one is when he's subconsciously showing off how tall he is by leaving the squat bar so high she has to tip-toe to reach it when it's her turn.
i have all the solidarity for women who are brand new to weights and intimidated, so i do sometimes say something then. but very cautiously and very minimally. i really like the poster who said she'd approach if there was already 'contact' or interaction, and she'd give info for them to process, not just a small preachathon.
so i've done things like point out where the bumper plates are, so newgirl doesn't have to learn deadlifting with 25's on the bar. or the women's bar so she doesn't have to try to press 45 overhead on day 1. but it does have to be done carefully, and i really only do it if that receptive rapport is already there.
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Unless you are a licensed trainer and carry your own insurance plan you shouldn't say anything to anyone in a gym or anywhere for that matter in terms of how they're performing an exercise. All you need is for someone to hurt their neck or back on the squat rack, they turn around and blame you for the injury, they sue you for everything you got. End-o-story. Even if you're a certified trainer, if the person isn't your client... just look the other way!4
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Therealobi1 wrote: »I don't understand the mind your own business crew, especially those who can see what the person is doing could be dangerous
1.) I see people doing dangerous things all the time. I don't flag people down on the roads and tell them to put their seat belts on. If I see somebody smoking a cigarette, I don't walk up and tell them that it's dangerous for them to do that. I don't approach morbidly obese people and explain the many health hazards associated with their condition.
Why is the gym any different?
2.) Unless one is properly trained and educated as a trainer/therapist/etc., one has no business sticking their nose in what somebody else is doing in the gym. You (generically, not "you" specifically) may know just as little as the person you're trying to correct.]Are all your gym staff trained then, mine aren't ...a couple of them are trainers, but the the type of trainers who show people how to use the equipment, give them a standard workout routine and sometimes count reps
Good point. In most of the big chain gyms, the staff have minimal training and will offer "bro" advice worse than what you'd get if you asked an experienced lifter in the gym instead. Most of the staff/trainers in my gym are certified as Zumba, group fitness, Yoga, etc. instructors if anything....so not exactly the people I'd go to for advice on my squat form. I've overheard a couple of them during training sessions with other people offering fitness/nutrition advice that sounded like it came straight out of a tabloid or the Dr. Oz show.3 -
Anvil_Head wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »I don't understand the mind your own business crew, especially those who can see what the person is doing could be dangerous
1.) I see people doing dangerous things all the time. I don't flag people down on the roads and tell them to put their seat belts on. If I see somebody smoking a cigarette, I don't walk up and tell them that it's dangerous for them to do that. I don't approach morbidly obese people and explain the many health hazards associated with their condition.
Why is the gym any different?
You are so right. I have seen news clips when they set up a lone child pretending to be distressed to see what the reaction of passers by are. Its now not surprising why so many people just walk on by.
I understand now, its the mind ya own business crew.
I am not a gym floor goer so wouldnt be able to correct anyone but if i see a young child crossing the road dangerously with their younger sibling I will correct them to mind themselves. I will help a child find his/her mum in the supermarket.1 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Anvil_Head wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »I don't understand the mind your own business crew, especially those who can see what the person is doing could be dangerous
1.) I see people doing dangerous things all the time. I don't flag people down on the roads and tell them to put their seat belts on. If I see somebody smoking a cigarette, I don't walk up and tell them that it's dangerous for them to do that. I don't approach morbidly obese people and explain the many health hazards associated with their condition.
Why is the gym any different?
You are so right. I have seen news clips when they set up a lone child pretending to be distressed to see what the reaction of passers by are. Its now not surprising why so many people just walk on by.
I understand now, its the mind ya own business crew.
I am not a gym floor goer so wouldnt be able to correct anyone but if i see a young child crossing the road dangerously with their younger sibling I will correct them to mind themselves. I will help a child find his/her mum in the supermarket.
because that's EXACTLY the same kind of scenario...
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Therealobi1 wrote: »Anvil_Head wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »I don't understand the mind your own business crew, especially those who can see what the person is doing could be dangerous
1.) I see people doing dangerous things all the time. I don't flag people down on the roads and tell them to put their seat belts on. If I see somebody smoking a cigarette, I don't walk up and tell them that it's dangerous for them to do that. I don't approach morbidly obese people and explain the many health hazards associated with their condition.
Why is the gym any different?
You are so right. I have seen news clips when they set up a lone child pretending to be distressed to see what the reaction of passers by are. Its now not surprising why so many people just walk on by.
I understand now, its the mind ya own business crew.
I am not a gym floor goer so wouldnt be able to correct anyone but if i see a young child crossing the road dangerously with their younger sibling I will correct them to mind themselves. I will help a child find his/her mum in the supermarket.
because that's EXACTLY the same kind of scenario...
/rollseyes
keep rolling it until your eyes pop out if you like2 -
cushman5279 wrote: »Unless you are a licensed trainer and carry your own insurance plan you shouldn't say anything to anyone in a gym or anywhere for that matter in terms of how they're performing an exercise. All you need is for someone to hurt their neck or back on the squat rack, they turn around and blame you for the injury, they sue you for everything you got. End-o-story. Even if you're a certified trainer, if the person isn't your client... just look the other way!
i am curious about the last bit, is that incase of law suits?0 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »Anvil_Head wrote: »Therealobi1 wrote: »I don't understand the mind your own business crew, especially those who can see what the person is doing could be dangerous
1.) I see people doing dangerous things all the time. I don't flag people down on the roads and tell them to put their seat belts on. If I see somebody smoking a cigarette, I don't walk up and tell them that it's dangerous for them to do that. I don't approach morbidly obese people and explain the many health hazards associated with their condition.
Why is the gym any different?
You are so right. I have seen news clips when they set up a lone child pretending to be distressed to see what the reaction of passers by are. Its now not surprising why so many people just walk on by.
I understand now, its the mind ya own business crew.
I am not a gym floor goer so wouldnt be able to correct anyone but if i see a young child crossing the road dangerously with their younger sibling I will correct them to mind themselves. I will help a child find his/her mum in the supermarket.
because that's EXACTLY the same kind of scenario...
/rollseyes
keep rolling it until your eyes pop out if you like
you keep posting stuff like you did that's such a huge extreme leap of "ownership" and responsibility and "doing the right thing" vs minding your own business- and I'm gonna keep rolling my eyes- maybe they do fall out and in which case- hopefully I won't have to read that drivel.2 -
I typically don't say anything at all unless they're going to break a favorite piece of equipment I like using. Then it's fair game. If they hurt themselves simply because they failed to take the time to educate themselves on proper lifting technique, that's on them. If they break a piece of gear because they failed to educate themselves on proper equipment usage, that's on everybody that wants to use it.1
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When I was overweight, I had people giving me unsolicited advice all the time. They felt comfortable with telling the "fat girl" how to do it. I put up with it back then, because I had low self esteem. I'm waiting for someone to do it now, so I can punch them in the nose. Hasn't happened yet. If you feel the need to give someone advice, don't. Mind your own business. You're truly not as awesome as you think you are.
Maybe they were trying to encourage you?0 -
ArmsandCharms wrote: »Holy cow. Read all the way through people...Should have put a giant haha/JK on the end.
Yeah! Ya think? The way you worded that left NO indication that it was a joke. In fact I don't believe you when you claim it was a joke, I think you are trying to save face after posting your dirty deed. Either way, NOT funny.3 -
You know how you all say to tell the gym staff
Are all your gym staff trained then, mine aren't ...a couple of them are trainers, but the the type of trainers who show people how to use the equipment, give them a standard workout routine and sometimes count reps
There are several certified trainers at my gym. I wouldn't feel bad about mentioning it at the front desk and having them have someone look at it, but then I am living in a smaller town. Actually living in a smaller town I have had trainers come up to me and mention things in a big chain gym, which I appreciated.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »ArmsandCharms wrote: »LOL. I often wonder this. There was a lady yesterday that was doing something crazy on the leg press and I thought she was going to kill herself. i didn't say anything. I just videoed it. lol. Probably wrong of me, but it was funny.
That's pretty messed up.
those gym fail videos almost EVERYONE watches don't make themselves you know.
Granted I wouldn't do it- but I'm not going to sit here and side eye someone else for it.
I don't watch them so I don't know. *shrug*3 -
I've never seen a fellow gym-goer doing anything dangerous. Ineffective or less effective, yes. Kind of weird, yes. Dangerous, no.
I have seen plenty of people doing exercises that I've never seen before. In those cases, I make a mental note and then try to look up the exercise when I get home. Or maybe when I'm fiddling on my phone between sets. Those instances remind me that I do not know enough to be a good judge of whether or not a person is doing something wrong or doing an exercise that I just have never seen.6 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »ArmsandCharms wrote: »LOL. I often wonder this. There was a lady yesterday that was doing something crazy on the leg press and I thought she was going to kill herself. i didn't say anything. I just videoed it. lol. Probably wrong of me, but it was funny.
That's pretty messed up.
those gym fail videos almost EVERYONE watches don't make themselves you know.
Granted I wouldn't do it- but I'm not going to sit here and side eye someone else for it.
I don't watch them so I don't know. *shrug*
Here you go: now you can laugh like the rest of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKZlUfuwgZo 4 -
I'm in the process of helping my brother start his very first weigh-lifting plan. I'm a beginner myself when it comes to lifting weights, and we watch youtube videos and try to correct form between the two of us (with very basic, low weight exercises...gotta start somewhere).
We use the gym in our apartment complex, and if someone who looked liked he knew what he was doing came up to us and gave us a couple pointers, I wouldn't mind at all. It all depends on the tone and intent. No one wants to feel like an idiot, inside the gym or out. No one likes to be mocked. But I always appreciate a helping hand and well-meaning advice!
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