Epsom Salts?
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It's really crushing when those things we think we know because we've always known them, are ubiquitously referenced across the internet, our friends know them and we read them in papers and see them on shows are shown to not be based on any possible scientific fact
There are millions of products based on "detoxing" - and the government wouldn't allow those to be sold if they were just taking our money would they? Would they?
The horrific answer to this is yes :huh:
These products are rubbish. The claims are unfounded. Nobody has yet answered the "what are you detoxing?" "By what method is this removed from the body?"
It's lies
And it stinks when you find out you've been lied to
It makes you previously ignorant not stupid
But the vast majority of society, your friends, your family, holistic therapists, mags, celebs, tabloids will still talk about detox
Only now you know it's crap
And you have to learn to smile and nod and not say a word cos it isn't worth disabusing people of their beliefs and there's no real harm, just wasted money and wasted hopes
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I've done epsom salt soaks for years and know of a lit more people that still do. I know for a fact that after the soak, the soreness and stiffness are relieved from my joints and other parts of my body. I didn't say that you use this as a detox to get rid of all toxins from your body to be toxin free. I answered the post that was given about epsom salt soaks helping to relieve soreness. What I stated is what was asked.
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So dewd2, have you ever taken an epsom salt soak?0
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You don't have to be "nice". Say what you need to say. I'm human just like you are. Just because your thoughts and beliefs are different from others doesn't justify that you're right or wrong. If you look back at post from the beginni g, you'll see that they're other people that also said the soaks helped them as far as the soreness. But you said everyone else knows it's not true. I only included information that I read in health and nutrition booklet. I'm no Einstein and I'm not trying to be!2
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I used my bath salts after today's workout. It did make me feel more relaxed and less achey. I'm not sure the improvement is due to the salts; a soak in a hot bath generally gives me the same result. I do smell nice, though!3
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That fact that you think (know) is going to work does NOT mean it actually works. Correlation and causation. Placebo. It is not rocket science. It is basic science 101.2
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You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology1
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ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Uh huh. And yet you think Bragg's marketing booklet is a reliable scientific source.5 -
ladarius93 wrote: »The directions are on the back of the Epsom salt bag. I also got the bath soak information from an article of better hones and garden. The Epsom salt detoxs the bad toxins from the body. You don't drink it. You add it to your bath for soaking. Not drinking. I wouldn't post an answer to someone's post with bogus or false information and jeopardize anyone's health or life. Also Bragg's has a booklet with all of the same information. That's where I got my research h from. Read it. It may be of great help to you dewd2.
It's okay to drink small amounts though. I remember when I went through a phase of severe constipation the pharmacy gave me a small packet of epsom salts to drink. It worked like a miracle when nothing else did. The taste vile though. The was before I even knew people use it in baths. I've always known it as a last resort extremely effective laxative.1 -
ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Then please explain the toxins eliminated and the biological process by which this occurs, with sourcing from peer reviewed studiesladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
I for one am eager to learn as to my knowledge nobody has yet provided any scientific proof of "detoxing" outside hospitals
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The Epsom salts can make a dramatic difference in your skin condition and in your mental state if you were in a severe magnesium deficiency prior to the soaking. If you were not in a severe magnesium deficiency, you won't notice a difference. My wife was in a severe magnesium deficiency. I soaked feet with her just to get her to soak her feet. I experienced no benefit, she experienced her eczema cleared up and I clearly recognized that her mental state improved from crazy crazy to normally crazy.5
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Reading a bit of tenseness ITT. Perhaps everyone needs to take a nice long, hot bath in epsom salts and relaxxxx..........
Hehe.
Also - to the OP - glad you had a nice bath. Nothing like a good soak for the soul!
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I enjoy soaking in Epsom salts on occasion. I like how my skin feels after. The scented ones have a nice relaxation quality to them as well. So between a calming scent and the hot water, I am sure there are some benefits for relaxation. I'm making this up from memory, but doesn't the heat increase circulation which would help move the lactic acid out of the muscles quicker, thereby reducing soreness? Correct me if I'm wrong.0
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ladarius93 wrote: »The directions are on the back of the Epsom salt bag. I also got the bath soak information from an article of better hones and garden. The Epsom salt detoxs the bad toxins from the body. You don't drink it. You add it to your bath for soaking. Not drinking. I wouldn't post an answer to someone's post with bogus or false information and jeopardize anyone's health or life. Also Bragg's has a booklet with all of the same information. That's where I got my research h from. Read it. It may be of great help to you dewd2.
I've read that Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar website, and they claim their product is pretty much a cure-all for every ailment known to mankind. And I wouldn't be so skeptical of that if they weren't also in the business of selling the stuff.
I do find that ACV makes a good salad dressing, though.
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I love Epsom salt baths and bubble baths and as I pulled something in my back on a deadlift today I am particularly interested in any relief
If only it existed0 -
I love Epsom salt baths and bubble baths and as I pulled something in my back on a deadlift today I am particularly interested in any relief
If only it existed
Can you get Voltarin Emulgel without a prescription where you are? Stuff is da bomb! It's made for joint pain, but I've found it's terrific on sore muscles, too. 1 -
I've done Epsom salt baths for sore muscles. I've come to prefer a nice hot shower, foam rolling, and slipping into a warm bed.
Editing to add: I'm not much of a bath person. I get bored.0 -
Amusedmonkey. I was referencing the "don't drink" as the detox. You can drink it in tsp amounts with warm water as a laxative. (0
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I love Epsom salt baths and bubble baths and as I pulled something in my back on a deadlift today I am particularly interested in any relief
If only it existed
I'm a big fan of Tiger Balm or Icy Hot for sore muscles. Or, pop 800 mg of Ibuprofen (unless you have kidney issues - then cut that in half) and take a hot bath or shower. Gentle stretching - you don't want to stop moving it altogether or it could spasm (and that hurts a heck of a lot more). Those are my go tos for muscle pain.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »I enjoy soaking in Epsom salts on occasion. I like how my skin feels after. The scented ones have a nice relaxation quality to them as well. So between a calming scent and the hot water, I am sure there are some benefits for relaxation. I'm making this up from memory, but doesn't the heat increase circulation which would help move the lactic acid out of the muscles quicker, thereby reducing soreness? Correct me if I'm wrong.
This. I just did a foot soak with some eucalyptus-scented Epsom salts and they calmed me, but they didn't do more to relieve the pain than plain water does.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »The directions are on the back of the Epsom salt bag. I also got the bath soak information from an article of better hones and garden. The Epsom salt detoxs the bad toxins from the body. You don't drink it. You add it to your bath for soaking. Not drinking. I wouldn't post an answer to someone's post with bogus or false information and jeopardize anyone's health or life. Also Bragg's has a booklet with all of the same information. That's where I got my research h from. Read it. It may be of great help to you dewd2.
I've read that Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar website, and they claim their product is pretty much a cure-all for every ailment known to mankind. And I wouldn't be so skeptical of that if they weren't also in the business of selling the stuff.
I do find that ACV makes a good salad dressing, though.
Maybe so. I purchased the book years ago and drink it as well as add to bath water. It works for me and others that I know.
Yeah it does make a good dressing and a good meat tenderizer too.0 -
ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Then please explain the toxins eliminated and the biological process by which this occurs, with sourcing from peer reviewed studiesladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
I for one am eager to learn as to my knowledge nobody has yet provided any scientific proof of "detoxing" outside hospitals
RESEARCH IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.4 -
sevenofnine01 wrote: »Reading a bit of tenseness ITT. Perhaps everyone needs to take a nice long, hot bath in epsom salts and relaxxxx..........
Hehe.
Also - to the OP - glad you had a nice bath. Nothing like a good soak for the soul!
I was just only stating what I know from my experience and from reading. Research changes everyday, just like LIFE. Didn't know toes were going to be stepped on1 -
ladarius93 wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Then please explain the toxins eliminated and the biological process by which this occurs, with sourcing from peer reviewed studiesladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
I for one am eager to learn as to my knowledge nobody has yet provided any scientific proof of "detoxing" outside hospitals
RESEARCH IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I think the point that @Sued0nim was making is that there's *tons* of detox claims made by the people/companies that are selling these so-called 'detox' products. Unfortunately, this is not the same as scientific research. Here's a good thread here at MFP that addresses this very thing:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse 2 -
That fact that you think (know) is going to work does NOT mean it actually works. Correlation and causation. Placebo. It is not rocket science. It is basic science 101.
Dewd2. I would like to apologize to you. You were stating your facts and just only asked a question. You deserve an answer and apology. I'm a better person than that#0 -
ladarius93 wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Then please explain the toxins eliminated and the biological process by which this occurs, with sourcing from peer reviewed studiesladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
I for one am eager to learn as to my knowledge nobody has yet provided any scientific proof of "detoxing" outside hospitals
RESEARCH IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
But you said you had a masters of biology so hence implied that you knew more than those of us who said products don't detox. As a scientist you must be fully aware that those who make the claim provide the proof
TBH I'm not quite sure what you are saying any more, do you not hold a masters? Did I misread?1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Then please explain the toxins eliminated and the biological process by which this occurs, with sourcing from peer reviewed studiesladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
I for one am eager to learn as to my knowledge nobody has yet provided any scientific proof of "detoxing" outside hospitals
RESEARCH IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I think the point that @Sued0nim was making is that there's *tons* of detox claims made by the people/companies that are selling these so-called 'detox' products. Unfortunately, this is not the same as scientific research. Here's a good thread here at MFP that addresses this very thing:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
I understand exactly what you're saying. I only stated what I know and have learned. I never at one time stand that it's a scientific fact or proven research stated that epsom is a detox. I know what it does for me. That's all I'm saying. My post was taken to another entire level. No more of my thoughts on here. Thanks for your kin dress though.0 -
ladarius93 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »ladarius93 wrote: »You're right. I'm no rocket scientist. I just only have a Masters in Biology
Then please explain the toxins eliminated and the biological process by which this occurs, with sourcing from peer reviewed studiesladarius93 wrote: »Try either the lavender fragrance Epsom salt (Family Dollar) or you can add aromatherapy lavender drops(10),Braggs organic apple cider vinegar(2 cups)to your bath water along with regular Epsom salt and soak. Teally, really works. Also Walmart carries a doctor teas bath soak in liquid or powder. The Epsom salts will also detox your body while soaking.
I for one am eager to learn as to my knowledge nobody has yet provided any scientific proof of "detoxing" outside hospitals
RESEARCH IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I think the point that @Sued0nim was making is that there's *tons* of detox claims made by the people/companies that are selling these so-called 'detox' products. Unfortunately, this is not the same as scientific research. Here's a good thread here at MFP that addresses this very thing:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
I understand exactly what you're saying. I only stated what I know and have learned. I never at one time stand that it's a scientific fact or proven research stated that epsom is a detox. I know what it does for me. That's all I'm saying. My post was taken to another entire level. No more of my thoughts on here. Thanks for your kin dress though.
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ladarius93 wrote: »sevenofnine01 wrote: »Reading a bit of tenseness ITT. Perhaps everyone needs to take a nice long, hot bath in epsom salts and relaxxxx..........
Hehe.
Also - to the OP - glad you had a nice bath. Nothing like a good soak for the soul!
I was just only stating what I know from my experience and from reading. Research changes everyday, just like LIFE. Didn't know toes were going to be stepped on
Don't make it personal. It is like any other thing people get duped into buying. If someone says it does something, show us (citations). If there is legitimate information available that shows it is woo, then it has to be pointed out. People come here to learn. Allowing false information to not be challenged helps no one.
And no, I have never used Epsom Salt (to my knowledge - my grandmother used it when I was a child). I also don't use other Supposed Complementary and Alternative Medicine.
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No. You didn't misread. Nor did I say I knew more than anyone else on the discussion board. That's what you're implying. To be honest, whomever wants to use epsom salt or any other type of salt or whatever can do as they're pleased. You state information you've read and learned just like everyone else on the board and some people just get hammered by the information they give. Scientific fact or not; epsom salt can be used for whatever a person wants to do with it. Whether as a "detox",soak, to wash dishes, or to bake. It's "your" prerogative. Not mine.0
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