KFC/Chemical High
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@magicpickles are you addicted to any other stimulants? Gaming, gambling, sex, validation etc?
I'm addicted to food, gaming and validation. There are addiction issues in my family for drugs and alcohol so I have always avoided those. I only have alcohol a few times a year, and never enough to get drunk.0 -
magicpickles wrote: »@magicpickles are you addicted to any other stimulants? Gaming, gambling, sex, validation etc?
I'm addicted to food, gaming and validation. There are addiction issues in my family for drugs and alcohol so I have always avoided those. I only have alcohol a few times a year, and never enough to get drunk.
I agree that it is psychological as well as tasty.
You mentioned dopamine earlier...
The dopamine feedback loop is pretty powerful. Have you thought about getting a little therapy? Although I don't think an ocassional trip to KFC requires therapy, these other things combined with it seem to suggest that someone to talk to would be really helpful.2 -
magicpickles wrote: »I really like KFC and tend to have it once a week.
I want to quit eating it, because there are things I can eat at home that taste better, and I think I just like it because it gives me some kind of chemical high, like when I need it, it calms some kind of need in me like an addiction that nothing else can satisfy. I can also make food at home that has less calories and doesn't cost me $12 a hit, WITH nutritional value. Like, when I want KFC, nothing else makes me feel better. I am like that with some other foods.
I am thinking about quitting processed foods, but maybe just giving up one thing at a time is better. I wanted to start with KFC because I eat it regularly.
What chemicals from KFC am I getting and what can I replace them with? is it something like dopamine or sugar?
When I go to KFC I usually get the two piece quarter pack which is 2 pieces original skin chicken, pepsi max, a bread roll, potato and gravy and chicken salt chips. I think its the chicken and chips that I crave, although I get sick of them after a modest amount. I don't like eating too much chicken, I think I mostly like the skin, not the middle.
I'm also wondering if the recipe is different for New Zealand KFC as it is internationally.
I really miss the taste of KFC, but no matter what type of KFC chicken I get, and how little, it makes my tummy hurt.
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It appears you are dependent on it as a habit. Some foods are connected to certain feelings, possibly even memories in our heads. Detaching that feeling from the food itself is hard but doable. Good news is, you're not chemically addicted to it, and there are some great tools out there to control and change your habits. MSG does not cause chemical dependency either. I have it home and I add it to some dishes as a spice for that umami flavor, specifically to fish dishes. If it were addictive I would be putting it in everything every day and going through physical withdrawal when I don't use it.
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magicpickles wrote: »I really like KFC and tend to have it once a week.
I want to quit eating it, because there are things I can eat at home that taste better, and I think I just like it because it gives me some kind of chemical high, like when I need it, it calms some kind of need in me like an addiction that nothing else can satisfy. I can also make food at home that has less calories and doesn't cost me $12 a hit, WITH nutritional value. Like, when I want KFC, nothing else makes me feel better. I am like that with some other foods.
I am thinking about quitting processed foods, but maybe just giving up one thing at a time is better. I wanted to start with KFC because I eat it regularly.
What chemicals from KFC am I getting and what can I replace them with? is it something like dopamine or sugar?
When I go to KFC I usually get the two piece quarter pack which is 2 pieces original skin chicken, pepsi max, a bread roll, potato and gravy and chicken salt chips. I think its the chicken and chips that I crave, although I get sick of them after a modest amount. I don't like eating too much chicken, I think I mostly like the skin, not the middle.
I'm also wondering if the recipe is different for New Zealand KFC as it is internationally.
I really miss the taste of KFC, but no matter what type of chicken I get, and how little, it makes my tummy hurt.
How do you get your protein if you can't eat chicken?1 -
magicpickles wrote: »magicpickles wrote: »I really like KFC and tend to have it once a week.
I want to quit eating it, because there are things I can eat at home that taste better, and I think I just like it because it gives me some kind of chemical high, like when I need it, it calms some kind of need in me like an addiction that nothing else can satisfy. I can also make food at home that has less calories and doesn't cost me $12 a hit, WITH nutritional value. Like, when I want KFC, nothing else makes me feel better. I am like that with some other foods.
I am thinking about quitting processed foods, but maybe just giving up one thing at a time is better. I wanted to start with KFC because I eat it regularly.
What chemicals from KFC am I getting and what can I replace them with? is it something like dopamine or sugar?
When I go to KFC I usually get the two piece quarter pack which is 2 pieces original skin chicken, pepsi max, a bread roll, potato and gravy and chicken salt chips. I think its the chicken and chips that I crave, although I get sick of them after a modest amount. I don't like eating too much chicken, I think I mostly like the skin, not the middle.
I'm also wondering if the recipe is different for New Zealand KFC as it is internationally.
I really miss the taste of KFC, but no matter what type of chicken I get, and how little, it makes my tummy hurt.
How do you get your protein if you can't eat chicken?
There are plenty of foods that contain protein5 -
magicpickles wrote: »magicpickles wrote: »I really like KFC and tend to have it once a week.
I want to quit eating it, because there are things I can eat at home that taste better, and I think I just like it because it gives me some kind of chemical high, like when I need it, it calms some kind of need in me like an addiction that nothing else can satisfy. I can also make food at home that has less calories and doesn't cost me $12 a hit, WITH nutritional value. Like, when I want KFC, nothing else makes me feel better. I am like that with some other foods.
I am thinking about quitting processed foods, but maybe just giving up one thing at a time is better. I wanted to start with KFC because I eat it regularly.
What chemicals from KFC am I getting and what can I replace them with? is it something like dopamine or sugar?
When I go to KFC I usually get the two piece quarter pack which is 2 pieces original skin chicken, pepsi max, a bread roll, potato and gravy and chicken salt chips. I think its the chicken and chips that I crave, although I get sick of them after a modest amount. I don't like eating too much chicken, I think I mostly like the skin, not the middle.
I'm also wondering if the recipe is different for New Zealand KFC as it is internationally.
I really miss the taste of KFC, but no matter what type of chicken I get, and how little, it makes my tummy hurt.
How do you get your protein if you can't eat chicken?
No, it's not the chicken, which I eat plenty of; I think it's something in the KFC batter that makes my stomach hurt.
There are so many wonderful ways to get protein.3 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »It appears you are dependent on it as a habit. Some foods are connected to certain feelings, possibly even memories in our heads. Detaching that feeling from the food itself is hard but doable. Good news is, you're not chemically addicted to it, and there are some great tools out there to control and change your habits. MSG does not cause chemical dependency either. I have it home and I add it to some dishes as a spice for that umami flavor, specifically to fish dishes. If it were addictive I would be putting it in everything every day and going through physical withdrawal when I don't use it.
I Love this post. I wish I could give it a double awesome!
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magicpickles wrote: »@magicpickles are you addicted to any other stimulants? Gaming, gambling, sex, validation etc?
I'm addicted to food, gaming and validation. There are addiction issues in my family for drugs and alcohol so I have always avoided those. I only have alcohol a few times a year, and never enough to get drunk.
Oh right. On a scale of 1 - 10 how positive/happy do you feel while you're gaming and receiving validation vs when you're not engaging in those things?0 -
magicpickles wrote: »magicpickles wrote: »I really like KFC and tend to have it once a week.
I want to quit eating it, because there are things I can eat at home that taste better, and I think I just like it because it gives me some kind of chemical high, like when I need it, it calms some kind of need in me like an addiction that nothing else can satisfy. I can also make food at home that has less calories and doesn't cost me $12 a hit, WITH nutritional value. Like, when I want KFC, nothing else makes me feel better. I am like that with some other foods.
I am thinking about quitting processed foods, but maybe just giving up one thing at a time is better. I wanted to start with KFC because I eat it regularly.
What chemicals from KFC am I getting and what can I replace them with? is it something like dopamine or sugar?
When I go to KFC I usually get the two piece quarter pack which is 2 pieces original skin chicken, pepsi max, a bread roll, potato and gravy and chicken salt chips. I think its the chicken and chips that I crave, although I get sick of them after a modest amount. I don't like eating too much chicken, I think I mostly like the skin, not the middle.
I'm also wondering if the recipe is different for New Zealand KFC as it is internationally.
I really miss the taste of KFC, but no matter what type of chicken I get, and how little, it makes my tummy hurt.
How do you get your protein if you can't eat chicken?
Beef, lamb, fish, eggs, beans, turkey, *protein shakes, dairy. There's loads of other sources of protein.2 -
magicpickles wrote: »@magicpickles are you addicted to any other stimulants? Gaming, gambling, sex, validation etc?
I'm addicted to food, gaming and validation. There are addiction issues in my family for drugs and alcohol so I have always avoided those. I only have alcohol a few times a year, and never enough to get drunk.
Oh right. On a scale of 1 - 10 how positive/happy do you feel while you're gaming and receiving validation vs when you're not engaging in those things?
I don't know, lots of things make me happy. Addiction is probably a strong word for gaming and validation, I don't game that often and I think validation is a basic human need, like if you aren't appreciated by your friends and family theres something wrong.
I am definately addicted to food. Either I'm stuffing my face and looking for my next feed or I'm busy with something/distracted and barely eat.1 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Yeah one ounce of KFC chicken has like 28 grams of chemicals in it.
:laugh:
I am going to pick up an ounce 'bucket' of KFC chemicals now.2 -
magicpickles wrote: »magicpickles wrote: »I really like KFC and tend to have it once a week.
I want to quit eating it, because there are things I can eat at home that taste better, and I think I just like it because it gives me some kind of chemical high, like when I need it, it calms some kind of need in me like an addiction that nothing else can satisfy. I can also make food at home that has less calories and doesn't cost me $12 a hit, WITH nutritional value. Like, when I want KFC, nothing else makes me feel better. I am like that with some other foods.
I am thinking about quitting processed foods, but maybe just giving up one thing at a time is better. I wanted to start with KFC because I eat it regularly.
What chemicals from KFC am I getting and what can I replace them with? is it something like dopamine or sugar?
When I go to KFC I usually get the two piece quarter pack which is 2 pieces original skin chicken, pepsi max, a bread roll, potato and gravy and chicken salt chips. I think its the chicken and chips that I crave, although I get sick of them after a modest amount. I don't like eating too much chicken, I think I mostly like the skin, not the middle.
I'm also wondering if the recipe is different for New Zealand KFC as it is internationally.
I really miss the taste of KFC, but no matter what type of chicken I get, and how little, it makes my tummy hurt.
How do you get your protein if you can't eat chicken?
No, it's not the chicken, which I eat plenty of; I think it's something in the KFC batter that makes my stomach hurt.
There are so many wonderful ways to get protein.
I'm allergic to soy, and while KFC tasters wonderful, it gives me GI distress of epic proportions. It's not that common an issue, not in America, where only about 1.5% of the adult population has it, but it's often overlooked in favor of more trendy problems. I had problems that were severe for many years and my doctors dismissed them until a friend from Britain suggested I get treated for soy allergy... and I'm so grateful to her!2 -
This thread has reminded me of a book on my to read list: The Power of Habit.2
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magicpickles wrote: »magicpickles wrote: »@magicpickles are you addicted to any other stimulants? Gaming, gambling, sex, validation etc?
I'm addicted to food, gaming and validation. There are addiction issues in my family for drugs and alcohol so I have always avoided those. I only have alcohol a few times a year, and never enough to get drunk.
Oh right. On a scale of 1 - 10 how positive/happy do you feel while you're gaming and receiving validation vs when you're not engaging in those things?
I don't know, lots of things make me happy. Addiction is probably a strong word for gaming and validation, I don't game that often and I think validation is a basic human need, like if you aren't appreciated by your friends and family theres something wrong.
I am definately addicted to food. Either I'm stuffing my face and looking for my next feed or I'm busy with something/distracted and barely eat.
Yeah that's cool. I was just wondering where your state of mind was at. I couldn't tell through your tone of text. As for the gaming and validation thing, you're not addicted to them lol. You're casual with it like most people. Tbh I don't personally think anything itself is addictive except drugs. Other than that it's the person who is triggered not the actual thing2 -
runningforthetrain wrote: »This thread has reminded me of a book on my to read list: The Power of Habit.
I own that book but never finished it. Too boring for me. I found this article more useful for building habits: http://collegeinfogeek.com/conditional-habits/1 -
magicpickles wrote: »runningforthetrain wrote: »This thread has reminded me of a book on my to read list: The Power of Habit.
I own that book but never finished it. Too boring for me. I found this article more useful for building habits: http://collegeinfogeek.com/conditional-habits/
Bookmarked. Skimmed through it. Seems like my type of read. Thanks. I still need to read that book though. Heard it's a real game changer but I'm guessing it probably comes down to "do the thing whether you feel like it or not" eventually the habit will form. Simply guess work here lol. That motto works for me.3 -
Salt, sugar and fat are the trifecta when it comes to why we love food that's so bad for us.0
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Colorscheme wrote: »Salt, sugar and fat are the trifecta when it comes to why we love food that's so bad for us.
Good point..
I know that when I focus on a food I want I do not stop thinking about it, its more the act of getting that food and then devouring that food until finished.. Its the act of getting and eating the food = dopamine release (I guess).
The validation addiction got me to thinking and this is not addiction its really is a personality trait.0 -
MSG isn't good for you, but there's zero medical evidence as far as I know that it's addictive, outside the dubious claims of crunchy granola websites and blogs. It's the desire for food and the emotional attachments to eating that are addicting, not MSG or sugar or carbs or whatever.
By the way, the fingers I'm typing this with are 100% made up of chemicals. Everything organic is chemical -- as has been pointed out hundreds of times in this forum.3
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