Cardio
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You have no idea what the person you choose to attack on these forums might be going through. I would hope with all of the personal experiences with struggles that would be apparent. I never said every day and many times actually said its individual. But whatever....today was a bad day. I engaged more than I should have.
I havent worked out or even eaten today. Its a process. My goal based on my experience is to do the best I can and build on it. I encourage others to do the same. I wont anymore. You win.0 -
You have no idea what the person you choose to attack on these forums might be going through. I would hope with all of the personal experiences with struggles that would be apparent. I never said every day and many times actually said its individual. But whatever....today was a bad day. I engaged more than I should have.
I havent worked out or even eaten today. Its a process. My goal based on my experience is to do the best I can and build on it. I encourage others to do the same. I wont anymore. You win.
Sorry I didn't mean it as an attack just as much as you probably didn't mean it as an attack in your post. Sometimes "I can't" really means I can't and isn't an excuse.0 -
You have no idea what the person you choose to attack on these forums might be going through. I would hope with all of the personal experiences with struggles that would be apparent. I never said every day and many times actually said its individual. But whatever....today was a bad day. I engaged more than I should have.
I havent worked out or even eaten today. Its a process. My goal based on my experience is to do the best I can and build on it. I encourage others to do the same. I wont anymore. You win.
Nobody attacked you. We disagreed with you and explained why.0 -
@VintageFeline now you know why I am on mfp so much0
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singingflutelady wrote: »@VintageFeline now you know why I am on mfp so much
Ha, me too!0 -
You have no idea what the person you choose to attack on these forums might be going through. I would hope with all of the personal experiences with struggles that would be apparent. I never said every day and many times actually said its individual. But whatever....today was a bad day. I engaged more than I should have.
I havent worked out or even eaten today. Its a process. My goal based on my experience is to do the best I can and build on it. I encourage others to do the same. I wont anymore. You win.
No one is attacking you. Disagreeing isn't attacking.
I'm sorry today was a bad day for you, and I hope tomorrow is better.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »@VintageFeline now you know why I am on mfp so much
Ha, me too!
And why I'm here at 2.15am UK time. Current sleep schedule shot to *kitten*.0 -
Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »You have no idea what the person you choose to attack on these forums might be going through. I would hope with all of the personal experiences with struggles that would be apparent. I never said every day and many times actually said its individual. But whatever....today was a bad day. I engaged more than I should have.
I havent worked out or even eaten today. Its a process. My goal based on my experience is to do the best I can and build on it. I encourage others to do the same. I wont anymore. You win.
No one is attacking you. Disagreeing isn't attacking.
I'm sorry today was a bad day for you, and I hope tomorrow is better.
Yes hopefully tomorrow will be a much better day!0 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.
You've just reminded me. I often force myself to workout and it's good and dandy once I get going. But once, I guess I forced it too much, my brain was not for having any exertion because it really needed to just "be" and I bonked about 5 minutes in. It's the very hidden and misunderstood aspect of mental illness. I don't think the absolute b*^%h that is fatigue can ever be expressed to someone who doesn't live with it themselves.0 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.
Now imagine all the fun things that can happen while heavy lifting with crohn's;) it's stuff bad memories are made of0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.
Now imagine all the fun things that can happen while heavy lifting with crohn's;) it's stuff bad memories are made of
Whispers *you've sharted in public haven't you?*0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.
Now imagine all the fun things that can happen while heavy lifting with crohn's;) it's stuff bad memories are made of
While not having crohn's, I did have severe, um, problems for a good chunk of this past year and consequently timed things really carefully when I was lifting. There were some near misses. I'm not strong enough to move anything heavy. I lift heavy for me, but it's powder puff weight to all of you real heavy lifters.
There was this one time, though, sumo squatting with a 50 pound dumbbell...0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.
You've just reminded me. I often force myself to workout and it's good and dandy once I get going. But once, I guess I forced it too much, my brain was not for having any exertion because it really needed to just "be" and I bonked about 5 minutes in. It's the very hidden and misunderstood aspect of mental illness. I don't think the absolute b*^%h that is fatigue can ever be expressed to someone who doesn't live with it themselves.
You're my soul sister! It's an exhaustion that can not be relieved by sleep.0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Fatigue. Oh god. Yeah, it is my arch nemesis. It makes my legs feel like concreteCarlos_421 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »Weight is lost by a eating in a caloric deficit, exercise is for health.
This is so not true - not by EATING in a caloric deficit, its by being in a caloric deficit. This site is after all called my FITNESS pal. So sick of seeing that phrase on these forums... sighhhhh
OP - if you want to get yourself in a caloric deficit by exercise alone go for it - its going to be substantially better for your health than starving yourself to get there. But 20 min 3 times a week is not going to burn that much unless you are doing HIIT or some sort of high intensity circuit. You should be doing minimum 20 minutes of exercise every day, even if that's just a 20 min walk.
Whatever. However you want to create a deficit is up to you. Before i started counting calories accurately i tried losing weight by exercising which is hard to do if don't know how many calories you are eating. I was spinning my wheels. 20 years of nothing but I did have excellent health other than being obese.
OP, get accurate with intake and exercise for health and it will add some calories to your day.
What I am getting at is it is not healthy to lose weight simply by eating a calorie deficit.. you will lose weight but that doesn't mean it is healthy. Everyone needs to exercise, every day.
Some can't though.
I don't agree its a matter of priority. And even though there may be a very minute percentage of the world who are that physically disabled that they cannot exercise and I guarantee that they are not on my fitness pal forums.
I agree completely. I don't buy the "can't" thing at all. I was unable to walk for 6 weeks and found work outs I could do to maintain health. I did seated cardio (lots of them can be found online) and I did hand weights. If you can move you can take steps towards fitness.
And some cannot walk at all.
Did you miss the part where I was working out when unable to walk at all? That was my entire point in my post. When I couldn't walk I found ways to remain active despite being limited to my couch.
Beacons of inspiration are typically more effective when they don't come across as incredibly judgmental.
No judgments and no responsibility for your misinterpretation. My point all along was that people can find a way to be active and that should be the point and encouraged. We, as a fitness community, should aim to encourage new members to find ways to become more active whatever that means for them personally.
I have an extensive list of previous injuries and health issues that I have had to find ways to work both around and with. It can be done. Thats not me saying it will or even should look the same for everyone.
The OP wanted to know if what they are doing is enough to get results. My answer - if it is more than you were doing before than it is a step towards your goals in the right direction. Start where you are and build on it as you get healthier and stronger.
I was once in that mindset, until I got intense fatigue and a fibro flare up in the middle of doing barbell squats (in the hole). Yeah. If fatigue hits one like a pallet of bricks, there's not much that can be done. It's not an excuse; doing physical activity during fatigue spells can be dangerous.
I have depression and find that once it puts you in that dark hole, exercise will not help. And, with fibro? Sometimes it is painful to take a shower and I am generally not a wuss. That crap just sneaks up on you and shoves itself in your face when you least expect it.
Now imagine all the fun things that can happen while heavy lifting with crohn's;) it's stuff bad memories are made of
While not having crohn's, I did have severe, um, problems for a good chunk of this past year and consequently timed things really carefully when I was lifting. There were some near misses. I'm not strong enough to move anything heavy. I lift heavy for me, but it's powder puff weight to all of you real heavy lifters.
There was this one time, though, sumo squatting with a 50 pound dumbbell...
I lifted fasted at around 11 am ( couldn't go to gym earlier or eat anything before just in case) and ate afterwards. I actually started 21:3 and stuck with that. I wasn't lifting heavy heavy but I was a lifter before I became ill (therefore when I returned o gained strength quickly) so I was squatting just above bodyweight and deadlifting 1.5x bodyweight and taking long rest periods between sets. Yup many near misses0
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