December 2016 Running Challenge

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  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    @nikolaoskey Sorry to hear about the thigh problem!
  • ddmom0811
    ddmom0811 Posts: 1,878 Member
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    @skippygirlsmom - he's still sick! I feel terrible for him. I went to meet my daughter for lunch and then walked up Broadway for a few miles. Popped in and out of stores, didn't buy much. Having dinner with cousin and her husband from Long Island and he just can't go. He's been in bed >24 hours at this point. Starting to feel a little better and hoping to at least get out tomorrow.

    @patrikc333 - The nutrition is very different cycling. At least for me it is. When I did my first 100 mile ride back in September, I tried to eat a few bites of Clif bar every 20 minutes while riding. I drank a ton of water/drinks. With running I can't really eat/drink too much or it would mess with my stomach. But riding, you must eat often. I think I ate about 2000 calories while riding that 100 miles. I'm curious to see what @ohhim says!


    Goals for 2017 ... stay healthy! Focus a little more on strength training. I was rereading my favorite book Younger next Year ... but the exercise book he wrote a few years after the first book. And he talks about how important it is to do strength training. You won't have the normal aches and pains as you age. I know many of you are a lot younger than me (55), but it's true for any age! I think I am going to do a different strength training starting next month. There is a bike store that has a gym that specializes in tri-athletes. I am going to sign up for that which will be cheaper than my trainer and I can go 3x a week instead of 2.

    Also, goal for 2017 - take a full rest day once a week, or maybe once every other week. After this Holiday streak that is. :wink:


    12/1 - 3.2 miles
    12/2 - 1.5 miles
    12/3 - 45 miles biking + 1 mile run
    12/4 - 27 miles biking + 1 mile run
    12/5 - 4 miles
    12/6 - 4 miles
    12/7 - 1 mile on treadmill for streak (after strength training)
    12/8 - 4.47 miles
    12/9 - 1 mile on treadmill for streak (after strength training)
    12/10 - 77 miles bike and 1 mile run for streak!
    12/11 - 27 miles biking and 1 mile run for streak
    12/12 - 4 miles
    12/13 - 5 miles
    12/14 - 2.1 miles - day 21 streak + strength training
    12/15 - 4.5 miles
    12/16 - 1.5 miles
    12/17 = 44 miles biking + 1 mile run
    12/18 - 27 miles biking + 1 mile run
    12/19 - 4 miles
    12/20 - 6.07 miles
    12/21 - 5.02 miles
    12/22 - 5.4 miles
    12/23 - 2.25 miles
    12/24 - 44 miles biking + 1 mile run
    12/25 - 2.5 miles
    12/26 - 1 mile
    12/27 - 5.57 miles in Astoria, Queens.
    12/28 - 5 miles in Astoria


    Upcoming races
    2/5/17 - Daytona Beach HM
    2/26/17 - Disney Princess HM Orlando


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  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
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    Wow, @orphia, nice goals! And beautiful! That will be quite a year.

    Date:: :::: Miles:::: Dec total (goal = 80 91.4)
    12/01/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
    12/02/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 2.6
    12/03/16 :::: 3.1 :::: 5.7
    12/04/16 :::: 6.0 :::: 11.8
    12/05/16 :::: 3.3 :::: 15.0
    12/06/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 17.4
    12/07/16 :::: 2.4 :::: 19.8
    12/08/16 :::: 3.7 :::: 23.5
    12/09/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 23.5
    12/10/16 :::: 7.0 :::: 30.5
    12/11/16 :::: 3.5 :::: 34.0
    12/12/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 34.0
    12/13/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 36.7
    12/14/16 :::: 2.5 :::: 39.1
    12/15/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 39.1
    12/16/16 :::: 4.0 :::: 43.2
    12/17/16 :::: 6.3 :::: 49.5
    12/18/16 :::: 3.5 :::: 53.0
    12/19/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 55.8
    12/20/16 :::: 2.6 :::: 58.4
    12/21/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 58.4
    12/22/16 :::: 0.0 :::: 58.4
    12/23/16 :::: 4.0 :::: 62.4
    12/24/16 :::: 7.6 :::: 70.0
    12/25/16 :::: 3.4 :::: 73.3
    12/26/16 :::: 4.2 :::: 77.5
    12/27/16 :::: 2.8 :::: 80.3
    12/28/16 :::: 3.7 :::: 84.0

    Fun afternoon impromptu run with some of the running group - someone posted on facebook looking for a running buddy and a few of us showed up. Followed by coffee, so it was a nice afternoon. Love being on winter break so I can take advantage of a few of these things.


  • skippygirlsmom
    skippygirlsmom Posts: 4,433 Member
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    @ddmom0811 I hope he's feeling better soon.
  • dkabambe
    dkabambe Posts: 544 Member
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    @Orphia - these are almost exactly my running targets except I don't have a target number of 30k/HMs. I'd also like to crack a 2hr HM and do a marathon (no time goal).
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
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    Wow. Have been MIA since Friday and I missed over 100 posts. I probably am not going to get to those. I did skim through, you know, checking out the pictures and stuff. @Orphia - Great job on the handstand! You look sooo strong. I love your goals too.

    I hope everyone had a great Christmas. Mine was good but hectic. Traveled to Pittsburgh to see my mom, made several trips to see other family and friends while there, and then drove to West Virginia on Monday to see my hubby's parents. All with the dog. I did get my runs in everyday, including 13.2 on Saturday. Still looking in good shape for making goal.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    Thanks, guys! xxx
    dkabambe wrote: »
    @Orphia - these are almost exactly my running targets except I don't have a target number of 30k/HMs. I'd also like to crack a 2hr HM and do a marathon (no time goal).

    @dkabambe Yay, twins! Ditto.

    Shhh, my unspoken wish is to do a marathon, but it means too much to share it. It would be the cherry on top of those goals.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    @Orphia go for a full! You have some amazing goals for next year.....making me feel a little unambitious..... have a feeling that fweling will pass in 5 and a half months as I'm dying on mile 26
  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
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    Made my goal with a couple of days to spare... who am I?! :)

    Sorry I've been quiet, but family duty calls. No doubt I will get some replying done tomorrow when I'm supposed to be at work!

    December Running Challenge

    2nd - 3.06 miles
    3rd - 11.02 miles
    6th - 3.04 miles
    7th - 5.19 miles
    8th - 4.05 miles
    10th - 4.73 miles
    12th - 3.18 miles
    14th - 6.22 miles
    17th - 13.1 miles HM PB 1:56:20
    19th - 3.15 miles
    21st - 5.5(ish) miles
    23rd - 7.03 miles
    24th - 5.02 miles
    26th - 3.40 miles
    28th - 5.55 miles

    MTD - 83.19/80 miles

    Upcoming races:
    12th March 2017 - North London Half Marathon
    9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
    I didn't have to do for HM training.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
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    Date Miles today - Miles for December
    12/1 6 miles - 6
    12/2 4 miles - 10
    12/3 12 miles - 22
    12/4 REST DAY
    12/5 5 miles - 27
    12/6 4 miles - 31
    12/7 REST DAY
    12/8 3.5 miles - 34.5
    12/9 REST DAY
    12/10 26.4 - 60.9
    12/11 REST DAY
    12/12 REST DAY
    12/13 REST DAY
    12/14 REST DAY
    12/15 4 miles - 64.9
    12/16 REST DAY
    12/17 REST DAY
    12/18 REST DAY
    12/19 6.5 miles 71.4
    12/20 6.2 miles 77.6
    12/21 4 miles - 81.6
    12/22 8 miles - 89.6
    12/23 5 miles - 94.6
    12/24 11 miles - 105.6
    12/25 REST DAY
    12/26 8 miles - 113.6
    12/27 10 miles - 123.6
    12/28 4 miles - 127.6


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    Upcoming races:
    UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
    Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
    Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
    PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
    Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
    Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
    Huntsville Half Marathon - 11/12 << 1:35:55 2 in AG & 25 OA
    Rocket City Marathon - 12/10 << 2:44:41
    Kentucky Derby Marathon - 4/29

    I am not doing pretty good keeping up with what's going on in here.

  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
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    Stoshew71 wrote: »

    ....
    I am not doing pretty good keeping up with what's going on in here.

    You been busy? You need some time away from your virtual family? You injured? Family alright?

    Just hope you're doing well (*through gritted teeth* and waiting for the next challenge that I just get to watch from a far).

    :smiley: miiiiiisssss yaaaaa
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
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    Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
    I didn't have to do for HM training.

    For me, anything longer than 10 miles included Gatorade breaks. I don't remember at what point I started experimenting with gels. I believe it was maybe 15 miles. I also tried fig newtons but that never lasted beyond my first year. I also did fasted runs that only had water breaks. Some of my runs were fasted (train low race high) and some of them were fully fueled with refueling.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    edited December 2016
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    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Stoshew71 wrote: »

    ....
    I am not doing pretty good keeping up with what's going on in here.

    You been busy? You need some time away from your virtual family? You injured? Family alright?

    Just hope you're doing well (*through gritted teeth* and waiting for the next challenge that I just get to watch from a far).

    :smiley: miiiiiisssss yaaaaa

    Yeah. I am not injured or anything like that. I get my runs in, just don't get to log them here over my Christmas break. Next week I will be on travel to Ft. Knox and Ft. Campbell after New Years break. Thanks for asking.

    I miss ya guys too.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
    I didn't have to do for HM training.

    Don't know that I count as "experienced," seeing as how I've completed only 2 marathons and failed to complete my 3rd attempt. Anyway, I started experimenting with gels and chews when the long runs got to over an hour. I started with every 45 minutes per the standard recommendation, and figured I'd need one gel in my first half marathon. Which is what I used.

    Later, I followed the example of a more experienced marathon runner I was training with, and switched to taking a gel every 5 miles. That subsequently got compressed to shorter distances at race pace; my ideal half now has a gel at mile 5 and a gel at mile 9 or so. I used 7 gels in each of the marathons I completed; I can't claim to have found the timing I like best for them. Certainly they come more frequently later in the race.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    December Running Totals (miles)
    12/1 – 8.08 warmup + speed work
    12/2 – rest day
    12/3 – 10.13 warmup + 5K race + easy 30 minutes
    12/4 – 8.07 easy
    12/5 – rest day
    12/6 – 5.96 warmup, speed work, cool down
    12/7 – 6.00 easy
    12/8 – 3.78 easy
    12/9 – 3.80 course preview
    12/10 – 5.01 USATF Club Nationals Masters 8K
    12/11 – 2.57 easy
    12/12 – 10.15 easy
    12/13 – 6.21 hills
    12/14 – rest day
    12/15 – 5.25 with wind and snow
    12/16 – 6.27 easy
    12/17 – 6.40 warmup + Reindeer Run 5K
    12/18 – rest day
    12/19 – 12.00 easy
    12/20 – 6.46 easy
    12/21 – unplanned rest day
    12/22 – 5.16 easy with fast finish
    12/23 – 5.18 easy plus one stride
    12/24 – 13.00 paced run
    12/25 – 7.31 easy
    12/26 – 6.84 easy
    12/27 – 5.28 warmup + speed work
    12/28 – 5.30 group run

    December total to date – 154.20

    Nominal Challenge Goal – 150 miles
    Real Goals: Finish transition to healthy running. Use Club Nationals as a learning experience on managing air travel to a race. Build a base toward Boston training. Avoid re-injury

    Today's notes – Wore my trail shoes because I expected the leader of a 6 mile group run to include some easy trail segments, and I expected those segments to have snow. Turned out he wasn't there, and I dropped back to what is usually the middle of 3 groups, running about 5 miles. There was a wait at a stoplight, and a couple longish waits to regroup as the some of us were faster than others; late in the run, I took an option to add some distance in an extra loop with some of the faster runners. Turned in an average pace of 8:37 per mile including stops, Garmin says 8:11 average moving time; but the faster part was all in the last 2 miles. Between the slow pace and the stops, my heart rate only got above Zone 1 for 3:45 of the 45:42 run. Felt almost like a rest day, which is not a bad thing for a day labeled "easy" on the marathon training plan.

    Oh, yeah. Hit goal for the month today. I expect to run about 15 more miles this week/month/year, all of which end on Saturday.

    2016 races:
    January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
    January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
    March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
    March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
    April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
    April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
    May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
    June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
    July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:31:11
    August 13, 2016 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY) finished in 19:07 (5K PR)
    September 4, 2016 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:31:37
    September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY) DNF a mile from finish
    October 15, 2016 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
    October 22, 2016 Scare Brain Cancer Away 5K (East Rochester, NY) DNS – Achilles tendonitis
    November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY) finished in 42:38, First Senior (60+) Male
    December 3, 2016 Freezeroo #1 (Don Curran Memorial 5K) (Gates, NY) finished in 20:06
    December 10, 2016 USATF National Club Cross Country Championships 8K (Tallahassee, FL) finished in 33:38
    December 17, 2016 Reindeer Run 5K (Rochester, NY) finished in 23:27 in the snow

    2017 races:
    January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY)
    January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
    January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY)
    January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY)
    February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship 8K (Bend, OR)
    February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY)
    February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 10K) (Webster, NY)
    April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)

  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    @Orphia go for a full! You have some amazing goals for next year.....making me feel a little unambitious..... have a feeling that fweling will pass in 5 and a half months as I'm dying on mile 26

    @MNLittleFinn

    :smiley: Thanks! I reckon you'll achieve my goals too, in the process of doing your marathon.

    I'm hoping with the 30 km long runs I'm aiming for, I might be in a good position to do the full.

    Twins again! And now @dkabambe is our triplet!
    Question for the experienced marathoners...I don't think I've asked this yet.... at what distance LR did you start practicing/experimenting with fueling? I saw that I have my first "longer than HM" run coming up in a couple weeks, and that got me to thinking about the additional things I need to do for marathon training/running, that
    I didn't have to do for HM training.

    In for the answers.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    edited December 2016
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    Thanks @MobyCarp with my slower (~10:00) hoped for pace for the marathon, I'm figuring I'll be running for 4:25+ on race day, so your input on the every 45 minutes or every 5 miles was good info. it will give me a starting place to work from when I begin pushing my long runs out further.

    So far, out to 12 or 13 miles, I've run fasted and not eaten on the runs, but I figure that learning to eat on the run, and finding out how much I need will give me an idea of how many gels to load up on come race day. I might start bringing a gel with on my 9+ mile runs, just to get used to eating something about 45-60 minutes in. I have a whole box of honey stingers (that I know I can tolerate while running) so I might as well start making use of them.

    @Orphia my first 13 mile long run of the year is next week, I might just push it to 13.1 for an unofficial HM. 30k Long runs would get you into good position to do a full, with maybe 1 or 2 runs pushed to like 32-33k too. You'll do it!
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
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    @MNLittleFinn - I should add the disclaimer that I know many runners who use fewer gels than I do.

    Also, every 5 miles is more often than every 45 minute for me, though it's usually over 40 minutes on training runs; but it's significantly less than 45 minutes in races. I tell first-time half trainees that the 45 minutes recommended by most beginner training plans and most gel makers is a reasonable place to start from in figuring out what's optimal for you.

    You specifically said "gels," so I assume that's your in-race fuel of choice. It may also take some experimentation to see what works best for you; some people do better with chews than I do.