Hypothyroidism and Weight Loss?
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I just want some of that cheese! A half-cup for 121 calories?!? I freaking wish.
You really need to measure in grams, OP.4 -
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SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@Susieq_1994 I cut up a small apple and ate 3 slices of it. so I just put a medium apple so that I had enough calories for the day.. 3 slices of an apple I assumed would be okay to put as a medium apple cuz im going over the actual calories not under. Same with the party potatoes, I had about 10 squares. Like, homefries. + with "cups" I always loosely pack my cups or half cups, etc. I don't stuff things in. + I never finish the plates of food I have, so I assume rounding up is better than rounding down, if that makes sense. I've been told by my therapist and my nutritionist that I don't eat nearly enough and that I should be eating more, but I don't want to eat more because I will gain weight.
Only thing I know is that I've had my medication adjusted 3 times with no change to my thyroid level. So I'm not sure if my thyroid level is still *kitten* or not, but I do need another test in the next two weeks (I'm due for one)
You are not having success doing what you are doing. Why are you so resistant to try the easiest solution and see if that works? Buy a food scale. They are literally like $8. Religiously weigh and log everything for 8 weeks. If that doesn't work, you can tell all of us, "I told you so."
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Please, oh please, find yourself a better doctor, a functional one if at all possible or someone who actually keeps up with the current science related to the thyroid. Levo is great for some but can often leave others browbeating themselves because what ever they do they can't shift a gram because they are hypo.
Its ok being told you are hypo but are you also hashimotos? I doubt very much you have been tested. The main stream treatment for both is the same but it completely misses the point that with hashi one has antibodies which are causing the thyroid symptoms and weight gain is simply not all its about. Its about regaining health and all that goes with it. More accurate measurements could increase your frustration because of a reduced metabolism.
To relieve the effects of those antibodies you need guidance to discover what is causing them. Also you probably need digestive support, as one's metabolism diminishes so can one's digestive acid. Then living at a deficit reduces the metabolism as does being hypo, its not a club anyone in their right mind would want to join. The tragedy is that you are so very young not to be getting the right treatment.
I doubt very much that you have been advised to take any supplements, often many of us who are hypo do better if we have selenium, zink, and other vitamins and minerals to facilitate conversion of the t4 in levo or other t4 products into the active t3. I strongly advise you to read up on all things thyroid. There are several sites Hypothyroid mom, is one she is good. Many people do not like Stop the Thyroid Madness because they consider it pushes the use of Natural thyroid products but for many with hashi this is needed because we are short of t3 and our t3 levels are hardly ever tested. It can also help to ensure your digestive tract is healthy. Taking probiotics to repopulate your digestive biome will help too. There is so much to help out there if only you can find the right way for you. You may have a national support site they can be very helpful also. Do you know there are 300 symptoms related to thyroid health, not many people do, or even care.
Many think being hypo is an excuse for weight gain, every person who is hypo will have their own causes and the health system does not have the integrity to sort everyone's issues out properly. Don't just take what is dished out read and read and understand and keep pushing for proper support. This is not a one size fits all situation.
Good Luck I fear you are going to need it.1 -
SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@Susieq_1994 I'm not going to weigh my goddamn food. That is ridiculous. I have never been recommended even by my dietician OR my nutritionist to ever do that. That's being obsessive and crazy with food. Not only that, but I started logging and thinking about what I have been eating only for the past 2 weeks. It's not like it's been years and I'm not seeing any change. It's been 2 weeks and nothnig is really happening. My point in this damn post is that I want to know any special things people with hypothyroidism do to help lose weight, since it is a well known fact that having hypothyroidism makes it harder to lose weight! Now I'm done being talked down to because I don't use a goddamn scale to weigh every last thing i put in my damn body. That is absolutely ridiculous!
Good to know, and good luck.5 -
SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@Susieq_1994 I'm not going to weigh my goddamn food. That is ridiculous. I have never been recommended even by my dietician OR my nutritionist to ever do that. That's being obsessive and crazy with food. Not only that, but I started logging and thinking about what I have been eating only for the past 2 weeks. It's not like it's been years and I'm not seeing any change. It's been 2 weeks and nothnig is really happening. My point in this damn post is that I want to know any special things people with hypothyroidism do to help lose weight, since it is a well known fact that having hypothyroidism makes it harder to lose weight! Now I'm done being talked down to because I don't use a goddamn scale to weigh every last thing i put in my damn body. That is absolutely ridiculous!
Special things we with hypo do to lose weight - weigh our food like everyone else on this site.9 -
I too am Hypothyroid and take synthroid daily. I have lost 70 pounds and I am 60 years old. Having said that I confess I lose pretty slow. My average weight loss over almost a year is 1.3 pounds/week but right now it is grindingly slow. One thing that seems to help is getting up and moving more often. I think those of us with compromised metabolisms need to kick start the body from time to time during the day. I try to take a couple walks a day when I am at work. I just use what would normally be a coffee break. Also drink lots of water it seems to help. My calories are at 1200 and I eat back about half my step calories (I use a Garmin Vivofit 2). It can be done and believe me you will be glad you stuck it out but be patient.0
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SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@GottaBurnEmAll I got down to "You may need to investigate further" The only things wrong with me, digestion and food related are : Hypothyroidism, Acid Reflux Disease, Caffeine intolerance, and a general intolerance of most water based foods like lettuce, watermelon, and celery...
While skipping over "weigh your food"...3 -
Also should mention I did cut my carbs back as I found I craved less and felt better with less carb. I don't know if it helped me lose but I've lost more weight this year than I ever have my entire life. Give it a shot.1
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OP, if it's only been two weeks you need to be patient, whether you decide to tighten up your logging or not.
I'll make one more mention of my situation. I've not found my metabolism or ability to lose fat to be special or any different from the average person. I've help my mother (also hypothyroid) lose over 20 lbs herself. It all comes down to accurate logging.
We've even found that we lose much faster than this sites calculator predicts. Our metabolisms are fine.
I spent many years thinking I was a special snow flake because of my thyroid.
It wasn't until I simply started taking my meds and forgetting anything was "wrong with me" that I started to truly succeed at gaining control of my weight.
Maybe that's harsh, it took me a long time to come to terms with it. But that's really what it boiled down to for me and many others.1 -
@Fuzzipeg Thanks for the actually insightful answer. I'm not actually sure if I have hashimotos or not, I know I have hypothyroidism though. I would assume that I do have Hashimotos though because both my birth mom and sister have hypothyroidism. I don't blame my thyroid entirely for the weight gain, but I do know that it does make weight gain easier. I gained weight due to a food addiction that I have been battling for 9 years. I became addicted to junk foods back when I was 12, because I was having a LOT of family problems (Which I don't really want to get into..) but it continued from there and I was eating 3 bowls of chips a day, a full bottle of mountain dew (the ones at the store, not the single serving ones), and gained about 100 pounds in those 8 years. It got worse April 1st of 2015 because my sister committed suicide, and I was an emotional eater. Last year I gained another 30 pounds. This year I've been stuck at 230, with no real changes to my weight, even though I'm eating 10x better than I was, and eating under my caloric goals each day. I didn't take my thyroid medications until like..2 weeks ago, I'm not sure when the medications kick in. But I assume that's a factor in all this too. I also didn't start tracking calories or thinking about what I'm eating until 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure how long you should wait for results. I assumed 2 weeks was long enough for my pills to kick in and weight loss to be noticed?0
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OP you made a curious comment about "water based food". I don't know if this would be of any use at all to you but I couldn't eat apples for years. Every time I did I was doubled over. I take meds for acid reflux too but Doc couldn't find anything else. Several years later they discovered I had the bacteria that causes ulcers (Helicobacter pylori). After treatment (and it was yucky) I can eat apples again. Might be totally unrelated but I understand they can now do a breath test for that bacteria. Might be worth checking into.........1
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@TresaAswegan Sorry for getting bitter, it's just that weighing my food seems ridiculous. I know what I'm eating and how much I'm eating. The thing I really think it might be is that I only eat late at night. I eat at 10pm every day and that's the only time I eat every day. I do inaccurately log my food, but it's that I'm putting extra food in that I don't actually eat, and I log breakfast times so I don't look like I under-eat. I don't want to be told that I under-eat, but MyFitnessPal keeps telling me every day that I am eating under my recommended and that it is unsafe for me to be losing weight like that, so I'll log extra stuff to look better.... Sounds wrong, but at least I'm not over my calories?0
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@cheryldumais thanks for letting me know! I really do need to get my stomach checked out. I throw up most the food I eat, it does not want to stay down. I assume that's a problem..but I never really thought much about it. I assumed it was acid reflux related.0
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Me too and boy was I surprised when they found that bacteria, they were testing for something else altogether. I feel so much better now but you will definately need Probiotics once you finish the treatment. It kills all the good stuff as well as the bad. The antibiotics they use are foul but it was worth it in the end.0
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Time of eating makes no difference. I eat the majority of my food late at night too.0
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@cheryldumais thank you I'll ask them about it!0
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@TresaAswegan the reason I think the time of eating is a problem is because I'll eat, and then go sleep. I'll just be laying there after eating all my calories for the day. I don't know really how it works, but I've seen on many different sites that you can gain weight if you eat a lot at night?0
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SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@TresaAswegan the reason I think the time of eating is a problem is because I'll eat, and then go sleep. I'll just be laying there after eating all my calories for the day. I don't know really how it works, but I've seen on many different sites that you can gain weight if you eat a lot at night?9
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SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@TresaAswegan the reason I think the time of eating is a problem is because I'll eat, and then go sleep. I'll just be laying there after eating all my calories for the day. I don't know really how it works, but I've seen on many different sites that you can gain weight if you eat a lot at night?
No, meal timing makes NO difference.2 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@TresaAswegan the reason I think the time of eating is a problem is because I'll eat, and then go sleep. I'll just be laying there after eating all my calories for the day. I don't know really how it works, but I've seen on many different sites that you can gain weight if you eat a lot at night?
No, meal timing makes NO difference.
^^This.
And yes, you will find a lot of sites that tell you not to eat late (or whatever else they feel like telling you to increase their eyeballs) but it is a load of crap. Timing of eating is not an issue.3 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@GottaBurnEmAll I got down to "You may need to investigate further" The only things wrong with me, digestion and food related are : Hypothyroidism, Acid Reflux Disease, Caffeine intolerance, and a general intolerance of most water based foods like lettuce, watermelon, and celery...
While skipping over "weigh your food"...
Well, I can see in the quotes what I missed, even though her posts were edited.
Good luck OP, you'll need it.
You're eating more than you think, that's why you're not losing weight. You're choosing entries to give you lower calorie counts than what you're really eating, it's as simple as that.
People in this thread have tried to show you how to be accurate so that you'll actually lose weight, but you seem to think this is disordered behavior. It's not, it's measuring things properly and using the system correctly.
If you make something yourself, you measure each ingredient, enter it in the recipe builder, and work from there. You don't search the data base for something you think might be close because you have no idea what went into making that.
What you're doing isn't working. When you're ready, at least you've read what has worked for people who have had success.7 -
SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@TresaAswegan the reason I think the time of eating is a problem is because I'll eat, and then go sleep. I'll just be laying there after eating all my calories for the day. I don't know really how it works, but I've seen on many different sites that you can gain weight if you eat a lot at night?
I eat right before bed every night. It matters not one bit.3 -
Please, oh please, find yourself a better doctor, a functional one if at all possible or someone who actually keeps up with the current science related to the thyroid. Levo is great for some but can often leave others browbeating themselves because what ever they do they can't shift a gram because they are hypo.
Its ok being told you are hypo but are you also hashimotos? I doubt very much you have been tested. The main stream treatment for both is the same but it completely misses the point that with hashi one has antibodies which are causing the thyroid symptoms and weight gain is simply not all its about. Its about regaining health and all that goes with it. More accurate measurements could increase your frustration because of a reduced metabolism.
To relieve the effects of those antibodies you need guidance to discover what is causing them. Also you probably need digestive support, as one's metabolism diminishes so can one's digestive acid. Then living at a deficit reduces the metabolism as does being hypo, its not a club anyone in their right mind would want to join. The tragedy is that you are so very young not to be getting the right treatment.
I doubt very much that you have been advised to take any supplements, often many of us who are hypo do better if we have selenium, zink, and other vitamins and minerals to facilitate conversion of the t4 in levo or other t4 products into the active t3. I strongly advise you to read up on all things thyroid. There are several sites Hypothyroid mom, is one she is good. Many people do not like Stop the Thyroid Madness because they consider it pushes the use of Natural thyroid products but for many with hashi this is needed because we are short of t3 and our t3 levels are hardly ever tested. It can also help to ensure your digestive tract is healthy. Taking probiotics to repopulate your digestive biome will help too. There is so much to help out there if only you can find the right way for you. You may have a national support site they can be very helpful also. Do you know there are 300 symptoms related to thyroid health, not many people do, or even care.
Many think being hypo is an excuse for weight gain, every person who is hypo will have their own causes and the health system does not have the integrity to sort everyone's issues out properly. Don't just take what is dished out read and read and understand and keep pushing for proper support. This is not a one size fits all situation.
Good Luck I fear you are going to need it.
Such great advice!! Yes to all of this. My hashis is managed by a doctor but I also have to be active, have to limit simple carbs, and take selenium. It's a careful balancing act finding what works and it takes patience and time. I know I found that I have to work out. That wont be the case for everyone possibly. For me selenium was a game changer for my energy level and hair thinning. Levo stopped my symptoms from progressing but alone it did nothing to get me better.1 -
@GottaBurnEmAll if you actually read anything i said you would know thats not true. I add extra things so it looks like i eat more. I always choose things based off what im actually eating. Im not choosing the lowest calorie options. Idk if youre all from a different country, but nobody around here has a food scale. Not one person. So im not sure who these "everybody" people are but i guess everyone around here doesnt count. And its the fact that a limited few people here are actually listening and responding to what im actually saying. Theres like a ton of people bitching about a scale. But oh not the fact that i need my meds adjusted still. Not the fact that i eat very little and only once a day. Not the fact that i have digestive problems and acid reflux and hypothyroidism. Not the fact that ive suffered with an eating disorder. Not the fact that this is only my second week eating right and that i have just starte back on my thyroid meds a week ago. Oh but when my nutritionist tells me im not eating enough shes just a big fat liar because she didnt shove a food scale up my *kitten*. Im sure all my problems are because im not using a *kitten* scale so my entries are just slightly inaccurate. Kk. Ill remember not to ask for help on this site because its full of *kitten* who want to not listen and not care.-5
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SaraLynnFiske wrote: »@GottaBurnEmAll if you actually read anything i said you would know thats not true. I add extra things so it looks like i eat more. I always choose things based off what im actually eating. Im not choosing the lowest calorie options. Idk if youre all from a different country, but nobody around here has a food scale. Not one person. So im not sure who these "everybody" people are but i guess everyone around here doesnt count. And its the fact that a limited few people here are actually listening and responding to what im actually saying. Theres like a ton of people bitching about a scale. But oh not the fact that i need my meds adjusted still. Not the fact that i eat very little and only once a day. Not the fact that i have digestive problems and acid reflux and hypothyroidism. Not the fact that ive suffered with an eating disorder. Not the fact that this is only my second week eating right and that i have just starte back on my thyroid meds a week ago. Oh but when my nutritionist tells me im not eating enough shes just a big fat liar because she didnt shove a food scale up my *kitten*. Im sure all my problems are because im not using a *kitten* scale so my entries are just slightly inaccurate. Kk. Ill remember not to ask for help on this site because its full of *kitten* who want to not listen and not care.
Quoting for when you this one out, too.10 -
OP, this thread has gotten you a lot of replies from people who have successfully lost a lot of weight. Some of whom have thyroid issues, have digestive issues, have no one else in there life who cares about being healthy. They took time out of their day to give you some free advice from someone who has been where you are, struggled until they figured it out, and finally succeeded. If you don't like the advice you got, that's your prerogative, but there is no reason to insult and belittle their methods. Especially considering their methods worked.
I don't know anyone IRL who uses a food scale, but many successful posters here do, so I got one on Amazon for $15, used it for everything for a couple of week, and then for some meals after that, and I started losing the weight I had been struggling to for years. You don't have to use one forever, even a couple of weeks will probably shine a light on where your problems lie.
And you don't even have to use a food scale, but you do need to use accurate database entries. You just need to spend some time in the beginning looking for good entries and once you use them they are saved in your recent foods. Search by brand name and exact name of the item. If it's not a packaged food, search for raw or usda. Don't use foods that say "generic" or "homemade" - that means another user entered them and who knows if they are right. Otherwise you have no idea how many calories you are eating.
Losing weight is literally a science. You need to eat less calories than you burn. Sometimes being annoyingly exact is necessary to figure out what's going on. If you aren't ready to do that, that's fine, but it doesn't make the advice wrong. Best of luck.5
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