Should I throw out all my peanut butter

jamieparadis20
jamieparadis20 Posts: 129 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
Hi everyone,
So I'll just plain say it: I have a peanut butter addiction. Ever since going vegan, I've been craving nuts, nut butters, beans, etc and I assumed it's because of the protein content; I've always liked protein but NEVER like this. I crave it constantly and could eat it at every meal.
The problem is, I really can't control myself and end up eating way too much. It's really the only food I can't control myself around, I've gotten way healthier habits and can avoid any other binges. I've tried so many things: hiding it, making daily goals to not have any, etc. I've also tried measuring out portions but i ALWAYS end up eating more.
I feel gross after I eat it and I honestly think it's the main thing stalling fat loss. Should I just stop buying it? My school has peanut butter in small tablespoon portioned cups that I'll allow myself to have if I really want it so I'm not depriving myself completely. I just hate how I feel after I eat a lot and want to get rid of that negative feeling.
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  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    In this situation, I would say yes. Or give it away.
  • malindak12
    malindak12 Posts: 1 Member
    Is all natural peanut butter healthy?
  • jennybearlv
    jennybearlv Posts: 1,519 Member
    If the PB is putting you over your calories and you are reaching your daily fat macro, then I would try a PB break. I took a break from sweets for a month and after I brought them back into my diet I felt more in control around them. I think we sometimes get into habits and get silly ideas in our heads about how we need this food to feel good or satiate some craving. Maybe try out a vegan protein powder so you can get more protein with less calories. I used to be vegetarian and it takes a lot of extra planning and thinking about food differently. I felt like I had to throw the food groups idea out the window and really break foods down into their macros to find the right combos and feel satisfied.
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    id finish the peanut butter or give it away and not buy more.
  • crackpotbaby
    crackpotbaby Posts: 1,297 Member
    I'll eat it!
  • unsuspectingfish
    unsuspectingfish Posts: 1,176 Member
    When I was briefly vegan, I bought only unsweetened, unsalted PB. Maybe that would help? If it's a good way for you to get your protein in, I wouldn't give it up entirely, but there are a lot of other vegan protein sources: whole/sprouted grains, beans (obviously), lentils, etc. If you're concerned about fat intake, maybe give it up for awhile and try some other sources.

    P.S.

    Quinoa and soy are also good sources of vegan protein, but I am personally against them. Soy farming contributes to deforestation and quinoa's newfound popularity has made it almost inaccessible to the people who rely on it to survive, as well as causing loss of topsoil.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    You could try to exercise some self control?
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    I would say first of all, how much fat and protein are you getting in your diet?

    Nuts and seeds are almost all fat, not protein, but i'd want to see what you're currently eating. If you're having such strong cravings, it kind of makes you wonder what is insufficient in your current diet.
  • DavidRocketts
    DavidRocketts Posts: 80 Member
    PB in a measured quantity can be a good source of protein and fat, but if you can't handle it 'in moderation' I'd buy no more. I have the same issue with alcohol, so just don't have any in the house. As the good book says - if something causes you to sin, cut it out! Good luck ;) (I'd get rid)
  • smotheredincheese
    smotheredincheese Posts: 559 Member
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned PB2 yet - it's not quite the same as the real stuff but is close enough, with a lot less calories.
  • unsuspectingfish
    unsuspectingfish Posts: 1,176 Member
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.
  • unsuspectingfish
    unsuspectingfish Posts: 1,176 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.

    Did I say that you specifically said that? I said "people on here", as in MFP. There just seem to be a lot of people on this particular thread commenting on the fat content, which is why I brought it up.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.

    Did I say that you specifically said that?
    I said "people on here", as in MFP. There just seem to be a lot of people on this particular thread commenting on the fat content, which is why I brought it up.

    No, but you did respond right after my post where i mention that nuts and seeds are almost pure fat, not "packed full of protein" like the OP suggested.

    Just saying.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    Please post examples as I don't recall seeing that.
    I actually see the opposite stating that fat is an essential nutrient.
  • unsuspectingfish
    unsuspectingfish Posts: 1,176 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    Please post examples as I don't recall seeing that.
    I actually see the opposite stating that fat is an essential nutrient.

    I meant MFP in general, not this particular thread, which I stated in another reply.
  • unsuspectingfish
    unsuspectingfish Posts: 1,176 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.

    Did I say that you specifically said that?
    I said "people on here", as in MFP. There just seem to be a lot of people on this particular thread commenting on the fat content, which is why I brought it up.

    No, but you did respond right after my post where i mention that nuts and seeds are almost pure fat, not "packed full of protein" like the OP suggested.

    Just saying.

    Because you were like the 20th person in a row that I had seen in the forums going straight for the fat, and even if you didn't mean to say it was necessarily bad, I all too often see people suggesting to vegans that they cut out all fatty forms of protein, which, as someone who was on a vegan/vegetarian diet for about 6 years, I know what a bad idea that is.
  • showerbeer182
    showerbeer182 Posts: 798 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.

    Did I say that you specifically said that?
    I said "people on here", as in MFP. There just seem to be a lot of people on this particular thread commenting on the fat content, which is why I brought it up.

    No, but you did respond right after my post where i mention that nuts and seeds are almost pure fat, not "packed full of protein" like the OP suggested.

    Just saying.

    Because you were like the 20th person in a row that I had seen in the forums going straight for the fat, and even if you didn't mean to say it was necessarily bad, I all too often see people suggesting to vegans that they cut out all fatty forms of protein, which, as someone who was on a vegan/vegetarian diet for about 6 years, I know what a bad idea that is.

    As a lifelong vegetarian (26 YEARS now), I know that these are poor sources of protein if that's op's goal. If her goal is to eat protein there are far better sources when on a whopping 1,400 calories. I've even written a long post about this. Here's an excerpt on why nuts and seeds SUCK for protein:

    "Often we see inadequate or poor sources of protein being touted for vegans and vegetarians. These include nuts, seeds, and some grains. In general these have less than 1 gram of protein per 15 calories. Today i’m here to share some of the highest protein sources for vegans and vegetarians. This list is not all-inclusive, but I’ve done my best to include as much as possible.

    Vegetarians or Plant Based
    • Greek Yogurt- 17 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Whey Protein-20 grams of protein per 100 calories (may vary slightly)
    • Eggs- 9 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Cottage Cheese- 12 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Egg Protein Powders– 21 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Faux Meats- Including brands like Morningstar Farms ®, Gardein ®, Boca ®, Quorn ®, Tofurky ®, Amy’s ®, Yves Veggie Cuisine ®, Beyond Meat ®, Tofutti ®, and more. Some of these products may be vegan, while others may include egg or dairy ingredients. Calories vary, but generally range in the 18-20 g per 100 calories range
    • Protein Bars- including many popular bars like: combat crunch ®, quest ®, fitjoy ®, mission 1 ®, fit crunch ®, lenny and larry’s ®, grenade carb killa ®, oh yeah! ®, pure protein ®, and more! Calories vary but generally range in the 9-10 grams of protein per 100 calorie range.


    Vegan
    • Tempeh & Natto– 10 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Lentils– 8 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Tofu– 11 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Soybeans/Edamame- 9 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Pea Protein Powder- 20 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Hemp Protein Powder- 12 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Soy Protein Powder- 24 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Brown Rice Protein Powder- 23 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Protein Bars- Including many popular bars like: Simply protein ®, Cliff Builder’s Bars ®, NuGo ®, and more! Calories vary but generally range in the 9-10 grams of protein per 100 calorie range.

    While there are many other protein sources found in plant foods, many are not “good” sources of protein. I consider these poor sources of protein as they lack the full amino acid spectrum and you would have to consume a high number of calories to obtain the same range of protein as the above.

    Just a Few Sub-Par Protein Sources:
    • Brown Rice- 2.3 grams of protein per 100 calories. You would have to eat over 500 calories of brown rice to obtain a measly 10 grams of protein.
    • Oats- 4.25 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to consume a whopping 400 calories for only 17 g of protein.
    • Nuts and Seeds (Almonds in this example)- 3.6 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 550 calories worth just to get 20 grams of protein.
    • Nut Butters (Peanut butter in this example)- 4.3 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 460 calories for 20 grams of protein.
    • Quinoa- 3.6 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 550 calories worth just to get 20 grams of protein.
    "

    I could go on, but essentially, these protein sources provide poor amounts of protein, lack many amino acids (specifically lysine which is a common low amino acid in vegetarians and vegans), and provide too many overall calories for their protein content.

    Please tell me how using peanut butter as a source of protein would work on a 1,400 calorie vegan diet. You'd have to eat 1/3 of your calorie goal to get a measly 20 grams. Don't even get me started on the fact that vegans and vegetarians need MORE overall protein to account for incomplete protein sources.

    Are fats bad? am i saying to cut fats, nuts, or seeds? No, but they certainly aren't a good source of PROTEIN.

    You totally stole my response!!! I was going to say the same thing!
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    Please post examples as I don't recall seeing that.
    I actually see the opposite stating that fat is an essential nutrient.

    I meant MFP in general, not this particular thread, which I stated in another reply.

    OK will take your word for that, hope you corrected them - I don't actually recall any instance where people said to reduce fat to zero.
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,179 Member
    OP, What's hard about getting exactly as much peanut butter as you budgeted in your daily food plan?

    I'm serious. Use a scale, or use a pre-measured retail portion as you say. Nuts are good for you. Have some.
  • unsuspectingfish
    unsuspectingfish Posts: 1,176 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.

    Did I say that you specifically said that?
    I said "people on here", as in MFP. There just seem to be a lot of people on this particular thread commenting on the fat content, which is why I brought it up.

    No, but you did respond right after my post where i mention that nuts and seeds are almost pure fat, not "packed full of protein" like the OP suggested.

    Just saying.

    Because you were like the 20th person in a row that I had seen in the forums going straight for the fat, and even if you didn't mean to say it was necessarily bad, I all too often see people suggesting to vegans that they cut out all fatty forms of protein, which, as someone who was on a vegan/vegetarian diet for about 6 years, I know what a bad idea that is.

    As a lifelong vegetarian (26 YEARS now), I know that these are poor sources of protein if that's op's goal. If her goal is to eat protein there are far better sources when on a whopping 1,400 calories. I've even written a long post about this. Here's an excerpt on why nuts and seeds SUCK for protein:

    "Often we see inadequate or poor sources of protein being touted for vegans and vegetarians. These include nuts, seeds, and some grains. In general these have less than 1 gram of protein per 15 calories. Today i’m here to share some of the highest protein sources for vegans and vegetarians. This list is not all-inclusive, but I’ve done my best to include as much as possible.

    Vegetarians or Plant Based
    • Greek Yogurt- 17 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Whey Protein-20 grams of protein per 100 calories (may vary slightly)
    • Eggs- 9 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Cottage Cheese- 12 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Egg Protein Powders– 21 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Faux Meats- Including brands like Morningstar Farms ®, Gardein ®, Boca ®, Quorn ®, Tofurky ®, Amy’s ®, Yves Veggie Cuisine ®, Beyond Meat ®, Tofutti ®, and more. Some of these products may be vegan, while others may include egg or dairy ingredients. Calories vary, but generally range in the 18-20 g per 100 calories range
    • Protein Bars- including many popular bars like: combat crunch ®, quest ®, fitjoy ®, mission 1 ®, fit crunch ®, lenny and larry’s ®, grenade carb killa ®, oh yeah! ®, pure protein ®, and more! Calories vary but generally range in the 9-10 grams of protein per 100 calorie range.


    Vegan
    • Tempeh & Natto– 10 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Lentils– 8 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Tofu– 11 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Soybeans/Edamame- 9 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Pea Protein Powder- 20 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Hemp Protein Powder- 12 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Soy Protein Powder- 24 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Brown Rice Protein Powder- 23 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Protein Bars- Including many popular bars like: Simply protein ®, Cliff Builder’s Bars ®, NuGo ®, and more! Calories vary but generally range in the 9-10 grams of protein per 100 calorie range.

    While there are many other protein sources found in plant foods, many are not “good” sources of protein. I consider these poor sources of protein as they lack the full amino acid spectrum and you would have to consume a high number of calories to obtain the same range of protein as the above.

    Just a Few Sub-Par Protein Sources:
    • Brown Rice- 2.3 grams of protein per 100 calories. You would have to eat over 500 calories of brown rice to obtain a measly 10 grams of protein.
    • Oats- 4.25 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to consume a whopping 400 calories for only 17 g of protein.
    • Nuts and Seeds (Almonds in this example)- 3.6 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 550 calories worth just to get 20 grams of protein.
    • Nut Butters (Peanut butter in this example)- 4.3 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 460 calories for 20 grams of protein.
    • Quinoa- 3.6 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 550 calories worth just to get 20 grams of protein.
    "

    I could go on, but essentially, these protein sources provide poor amounts of protein, lack many amino acids (specifically lysine which is a common low amino acid in vegetarians and vegans), and provide too many overall calories for their protein content.

    Please tell me how using peanut butter as a source of protein would work on a 1,400 calorie vegan diet. You'd have to eat 1/3 of your calorie goal to get a measly 20 grams. Don't even get me started on the fact that vegans and vegetarians need MORE overall protein to account for incomplete protein sources.

    Are fats bad? am i saying to cut fats, nuts, or seeds? No, but they certainly aren't a good source of PROTEIN.

    Lord, OK, I wasn't saying she should use it as her only source of protein (in fact, I also made a comment on here suggesting other great sources of vegan protein, which include many on your list), I was simply trying to say that people need to be less afraid of fat, particularly if they're eating a largely plant-based diet, in which they're not getting as much fat with their protein sources as meat-eaters might get.
  • jamieparadis20
    jamieparadis20 Posts: 129 Member
    If you cant control yourself around peanut butter (I'm the same), then yes, stop buying it. But my first thought about craving PB is the fat it contains, not protein which it isnt particularly high in. How much fat are averaging without the peanut butter addition?

    Around 42 grams, but 53 is my goal.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    Why's everyone so afraid of fat?

    Because it has 9 calories per gram and is extremely easy to put you over your daily caloric intake. That aside, there is nothing wrong with dietary fat and is actually required for hormonal functions.

    Exactly what I was getting at (sorry, I often forget that tone is very hard to read in text). There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're getting it from nuts and seeds. People on here just always seem so quick to tell people to cut out ALL the fat.

    did anyone suggest that?

    I know i asked specifically what she's actually eating.

    Did I say that you specifically said that?
    I said "people on here", as in MFP. There just seem to be a lot of people on this particular thread commenting on the fat content, which is why I brought it up.

    No, but you did respond right after my post where i mention that nuts and seeds are almost pure fat, not "packed full of protein" like the OP suggested.

    Just saying.

    Because you were like the 20th person in a row that I had seen in the forums going straight for the fat, and even if you didn't mean to say it was necessarily bad, I all too often see people suggesting to vegans that they cut out all fatty forms of protein, which, as someone who was on a vegan/vegetarian diet for about 6 years, I know what a bad idea that is.

    As a lifelong vegetarian (26 YEARS now), I know that these are poor sources of protein if that's op's goal. If her goal is to eat protein there are far better sources when on a whopping 1,400 calories. I've even written a long post about this. Here's an excerpt on why nuts and seeds SUCK for protein:

    "Often we see inadequate or poor sources of protein being touted for vegans and vegetarians. These include nuts, seeds, and some grains. In general these have less than 1 gram of protein per 15 calories. Today i’m here to share some of the highest protein sources for vegans and vegetarians. This list is not all-inclusive, but I’ve done my best to include as much as possible.

    Vegetarians or Plant Based
    • Greek Yogurt- 17 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Whey Protein-20 grams of protein per 100 calories (may vary slightly)
    • Eggs- 9 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Cottage Cheese- 12 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Egg Protein Powders– 21 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Faux Meats- Including brands like Morningstar Farms ®, Gardein ®, Boca ®, Quorn ®, Tofurky ®, Amy’s ®, Yves Veggie Cuisine ®, Beyond Meat ®, Tofutti ®, and more. Some of these products may be vegan, while others may include egg or dairy ingredients. Calories vary, but generally range in the 18-20 g per 100 calories range
    • Protein Bars- including many popular bars like: combat crunch ®, quest ®, fitjoy ®, mission 1 ®, fit crunch ®, lenny and larry’s ®, grenade carb killa ®, oh yeah! ®, pure protein ®, and more! Calories vary but generally range in the 9-10 grams of protein per 100 calorie range.


    Vegan
    • Tempeh & Natto– 10 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Lentils– 8 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Tofu– 11 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Soybeans/Edamame- 9 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Pea Protein Powder- 20 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Hemp Protein Powder- 12 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Soy Protein Powder- 24 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Brown Rice Protein Powder- 23 grams of protein per 100 calories
    • Protein Bars- Including many popular bars like: Simply protein ®, Cliff Builder’s Bars ®, NuGo ®, and more! Calories vary but generally range in the 9-10 grams of protein per 100 calorie range.

    While there are many other protein sources found in plant foods, many are not “good” sources of protein. I consider these poor sources of protein as they lack the full amino acid spectrum and you would have to consume a high number of calories to obtain the same range of protein as the above.

    Just a Few Sub-Par Protein Sources:
    • Brown Rice- 2.3 grams of protein per 100 calories. You would have to eat over 500 calories of brown rice to obtain a measly 10 grams of protein.
    • Oats- 4.25 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to consume a whopping 400 calories for only 17 g of protein.
    • Nuts and Seeds (Almonds in this example)- 3.6 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 550 calories worth just to get 20 grams of protein.
    • Nut Butters (Peanut butter in this example)- 4.3 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 460 calories for 20 grams of protein.
    • Quinoa- 3.6 grams of protein per 100 calories. You’d have to eat over 550 calories worth just to get 20 grams of protein.
    "

    I could go on, but essentially, these protein sources provide poor amounts of protein, lack many amino acids (specifically lysine which is a common low amino acid in vegetarians and vegans), and provide too many overall calories for their protein content.

    Please tell me how using peanut butter as a source of protein would work on a 1,400 calorie vegan diet. You'd have to eat 1/3 of your calorie goal to get a measly 20 grams. Don't even get me started on the fact that vegans and vegetarians need MORE overall protein to account for incomplete protein sources.

    Are fats bad? am i saying to cut fats, nuts, or seeds? No, but they certainly aren't a good source of PROTEIN.

    Lord, OK, I wasn't saying she should use it as her only source of protein (in fact, I also made a comment on here suggesting other great sources of vegan protein, which include many on your list), I was simply trying to say that people need to be less afraid of fat, particularly if they're eating a largely plant-based diet, in which they're not getting as much fat with their protein sources as meat-eaters might get.


    So... we're on the same page then. :neutral:

    "Nuts and seeds are almost all fat, not protein, but i'd want to see what you're currently eating. If you're having such strong cravings, it kind of makes you wonder what is insufficient in your current diet."
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