Everyone is an "expert"
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It is funny to read what some people write on here, everyone is an expert at everything. Jay Cutler 4x Mr. Olympia has a vid out on YouTube where he says that his clients will argue about the best training methods and "everyone is an expert". Its so true lol. Who else agrees with me?
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As an expert on this topic, I totally agree with you.33
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Which things do people write that you find funny?0
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But are you an expert? I've seen some things you've posted that sound very broscience-y.27
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Its just general advice that people give when asked. Then when someone disagrees with them or even has research or IDK a degree in that field, they are still more knowledgeable and give better advice. Everyone for the most part seems to be an expert at health and fitness, diets, bodybuilding, weigh training etc.2
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I find these threads seem to appear when someone has posted something derpy or brosciency and is called out. But I'm no expert.32
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A lot of us who are not brand new to working out and taking care of our health, professional accreditation or not, are rightfully skeptical of advice received online and do our best to parse it through our own common sense and preferences. Also a lot of people who ask for advice online are actually just looking for support and agreement.6
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There are actually a lot of veteran posters here who ARE experts: personal trainers, registered dietitians, biochemists, research scientists, doctors, professional fitness competitors, etc.
There are also some basic laws of science and physiology that you don't need to be an expert to know are true.
“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynihan20 -
Taking advice from Jay Cutler.........lolz This is MyFitnessPal not Mr. Olympia..... 99.99999% of the people on here could care less about roided up bodybuilders and their diets, workouts, etc..... They are and always will be specific to people who choose to use roids.12
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I like what Wendler has to say on the subject.0
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It is funny to read what some people write on here, everyone is an expert at everything. Jay Cutler 4x Mr. Olympia has a vid out on YouTube where he says that his clients will argue about the best training methods and "everyone is an expert". Its so true lol. Who else agrees with me?
I disagree with you. Anytime somebody uses absolutes such as "everyone" and "everything", I assume they're too lazy to make accurate assessments and I cannot believe much from them.
I do think members of this place are very knowledgeable on a broad range of things and sometimes you have to put your ego away and focus on learning. That's what I do anyways.27 -
My advice is worth what people pay me for it
In all seriousness, most of us here reply based on our own experiences. I can only answer based on my experience, which is different from yours and different from the next guy. What works for me training-wise might not work for you. Experiment, evaluate, adapt.
https://bretcontreras.com/individual-differences-important-consideration-fitness-results-science-doesnt-tell/6 -
Ehh. Everyone has their own opinions, experiences, and beliefs. If something they post helps someone in a positive way, I don't think it matters that they are an expert or not.0
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It is funny to read what some people write on here, everyone is an expert at everything. Jay Cutler 4x Mr. Olympia has a vid out on YouTube where he says that his clients will argue about the best training methods and "everyone is an expert". Its so true lol. Who else agrees with me?
Well, I am an expert in the opinions of others, and I agree wholeheartedly that you have one! Have a bagel!13 -
Cutaway_Collar wrote: »Agree, man. Some of these people will argue nuclear physics with a nuclear physicist.
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I cant help but laugh as I post one comment and I get all kinds of hate for it. Im def smiling. Love this place2
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Experts today are old news tomorrow. Want true expert advice? Think, "ancient history".. Before scientist and experts starting telling everyone that they are doing it wrong and what the 'right way' is. Better yet, look at cultures with the least obesity ratings and health problems who still eat like their ancestors ate. Look at the work they do and how often they work. Look at their quality of life. Those are the "experts". Example.. eating fish for health vs limiting it because of mercury and waste run off. The longest living cultures are still eating their fish!0
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I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.5
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Experts today are old news tomorrow. Want true expert advice? Think, "ancient history".. Before scientist and experts starting telling everyone that they are doing it wrong and what the 'right way' is. Better yet, look at cultures with the least obesity ratings and health problems who still eat like their ancestors ate. Look at the work they do and how often they work. Look at their quality of life. Those are the "experts". Example.. eating fish for health vs limiting it because of mercury and waste run off. The longest living cultures are still eating their fish!
Oh *kitten*, that reminds me...I forgot to pull my salmon out of the freezer for dinner tonight...crap! I don't have a plan B...seriously, this just reminded me...I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Yeah, I feel like I'm missing something too...2 -
Well to be honest. As a NATURE lifter I would never take hypertrophy advice from a Mr Olympia winner for obvious reasons. But op, judging by your profile pick, I feel like his advice might be a bit more suited to you.5
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I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
whos the roided up BB? Jay Cutler? Yes def on steroids, def knows his body, diet, nutrition, exercise etc better than anyone here thats for sure. No one takes steroids, sits on a couch, eats junk and gets in that kind of shape. His life was dedicated to his body and with that came levels of nutritional awareness most of us will never understand.
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I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
whos the roided up BB? Jay Cutler? Yes def on steroids, def knows his body, diet, nutrition, exercise etc better than anyone here thats for sure. No one takes steroids, sits on a couch, eats junk and gets in that kind of shape. His life was dedicated to his body and with that came levels of nutritional awareness most of us will never understand.
But you think his methods apply to the general populous? Srs question.2 -
I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10500919/full-body-workouts-muscle-building#latest1 -
chocolate_owl wrote: »I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10500919/full-body-workouts-muscle-building#latest
Ha, I just stumbled onto that. It all makes sense now0 -
Ohhh this is meta. Well, I'm out.1
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I agree!0
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chocolate_owl wrote: »I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10500919/full-body-workouts-muscle-building#latest
There was also the poofed why aren't more people here talking about steroids thread.
OP, the gen pop here isn't aiming for elite. But many users are well read and versed in the science around weight loss and exercise. While some are experts in these fields, many more have simply taken the time and interest in exploring the subject. This can lead to some lively debates. It's best to check your ego at the door. Keep your mind open to learning some new stuff.9 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10500919/full-body-workouts-muscle-building#latest
There was also the poofed why aren't more people here talking about steroids thread.
OP, the gen pop here isn't aiming for elite. But many users are well read and versed in the science around weight loss and exercise. While some are experts in these fields, many more have simply taken the time and interest in exploring the subject. This can lead to some lively debates. It's best to check your ego at the door. Keep your mind open to learning some new stuff.
Don't forget the it's OK for girls to use gloves but not guys line.1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10500919/full-body-workouts-muscle-building#latest
There was also the poofed why aren't more people here talking about steroids thread.
OP, the gen pop here isn't aiming for elite. But many users are well read and versed in the science around weight loss and exercise. While some are experts in these fields, many more have simply taken the time and interest in exploring the subject. This can lead to some lively debates. It's best to check your ego at the door. Keep your mind open to learning some new stuff.
Dang, I completely missed that one. I hate it when they poof before I can witness the dumpster fire3 -
chocolate_owl wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »chocolate_owl wrote: »I feel like I missed a thread? Was something deleted that I didn't see? A thread or a post? I am lost about the hate and roided up bodybuilders.
Here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10500919/full-body-workouts-muscle-building#latest
There was also the poofed why aren't more people here talking about steroids thread.
OP, the gen pop here isn't aiming for elite. But many users are well read and versed in the science around weight loss and exercise. While some are experts in these fields, many more have simply taken the time and interest in exploring the subject. This can lead to some lively debates. It's best to check your ego at the door. Keep your mind open to learning some new stuff.
Dang, I completely missed that one. I hate it when they poof before I can witness the dumpster fire
Right? Work really cuts into my lolligagging on the net time.6
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