So hungry on herbalife !!
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Tips:
1 - get off herbalife (I know everyone said this already, but had to say it again to provide my position on it)
2- drink more water (gallon per day)
3- get rid of all junk food and "Bad" food in your house (chips, soda's, candy, cakes, fried foods).
4-go grocery shopping and only buy food that will nourish your body. Staples for me are: eggs, chicken, ground turkey, fish (tuna/salmon), veggies, fruit, almonds, yogurt.
5- get rid of bad friends who don't support your goals or tempt you to eat bad.
Doing these things will help remove the temptation of overeating and if you do, it's on stuff that are good for you. I know cooking with new foods can be a challenge when you're used to eating out, having others prepare your food for you, or cooking unhealthy meals...BUT learning, studying and trying new (healthier) recipes will be the only way you will ever "get there". Side NOTE: Meal planning and prepping my meals for the week are a HUGE help to me. Not having to think about what I'm going to eat helps me stay on track. If I have to think, choose, or decide... I'm going to decide bad. So, I eliminate the in the moment decision when I decide healthy on Sunday's.
Good Luck! You can do this... you just have to convince yourself you can. That's the hardest part.
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CafeRacer808 wrote: »Unless you want to drink Herbalife shakes and take their pills for the rest of your life, a program like this isn't sustainable in the long run. Let's assume you're able to stick with Herbalife and reach your goal weight. Then what? If you're like most, you'll go back to eating normal food and the scale will start to slowly creep back up.
Losing weight is only half the battle. The other half is maintaining a healthy weight and for that, you need a lifestyle change. Using MFP at the outset, as the others have suggested above, can provide you with the building blocks for that new lifestyle. By logging calories everyday, I can honestly say I've learned how to eat. I'm much more conscious of the foods I consume, I have a greater awareness of which foods are more satiating for me, which foods leave me hungry after an hour, which foods give me more energy, etc. All of this newfound knowledge will be essential for me once I reach my goal weight and transition to a life of maintenance. So yeah, I vote for ditching Herbalife, going through MFP's guided setup, and using a food scale to accurately weigh and log everything you eat.
And as someone much smarter (and greener) than me once said, "Do, or do not. There is no try."
truth of the matter is the even taking the pills and shakes won't keep the weight off...if you get this hungry you will eat more food eventually and gain it back.
Well, of course. But seeing as that's the road OP is likely headed down at the moment, I didn't think it was necessary to restate the obvious.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail
I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
the biggest part is eating the right food. If you gorge on vegetables you are not going to stay overweight
OP, this can be helpful advice to help you feel full, but it's not a balanced, long-term solution.
I personally eat a lot of vegetables, but I also didn't want to face the rest of my life eating just vegetables.
There is no "wrong" or "right" food, and thinking of it that way isn't helpful.
What there is regarding certain foods concerns the appropriateness of the portion size for the food.
I can eat a pound of broccoli in a sitting, but it's not appropriate to eat a pound of caramels.
Yesterday, I had one caramel. I let it melt slowly in my mouth and savored every moment of eating it. It was 45 calories.
I also ate almost a half a pound of spinach.
Context and portion within your diet of certain foods is important.
OP, you'll learn all of this as you go along.
What GottaBurn is describing here is mindful eating. It can be a really good skill to practice and learn for those of us who eat in response to emotions rather than hunger or for fuel. When you eat sit down, turn off the TV, put the tablet away, focus on how good each bite tastes and how it feels. I don't know about you but I can eat a whole bowl or plate of something so fast, usually while reading or watching TV, that I didn't really even get any enjoyment out of the food. This is usually one of the factors that leads me to seeking out more food.
You got a lot of great advice from previous posters. Best of luck to you!4 -
JamestheLiar wrote: »nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
Sometimes when we start a new way of eating, especially one that forces us to limit the amount we eat rather than what we eat, it can be hard to get motivated. It's easy to sit down to a much smaller meal than we're used to, and imagine the endless boring days of our lives stretching out before us with no joy in sight. While we're in that stage (it really is just a stage), it's hard to keep going. That stage is the "widow-maker" of any life change we ever decide to make.
But changing our way of eating tends to have a kind of momentum. It builds on itself, and soon the widow-maker stage is over and we learn how to find joy in our new lives ... the same way we learned to find joy in our old lives.
The problem with plans like Herbalife is this: it's not a way of eating. It's not a life change.
Herbalife steals your joy.
Agree with this. It's always hard in the beginning but if you bite the bullet...get yourself in the mindset....and stick it out for a week or two you'll see that it starts to get easier. Change is always hard. Forming new habits is hard. BUT...it's doable. Does that mean you'll never slip up? No! None of us is perfect. But it's true that once you get into the swing and start seeing/feeling a difference...you'll want to continue. It's just a matter of getting started. You CAN do this.
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abigail659 wrote: »Tips:
1 - get off herbalife (I know everyone said this already, but had to say it again to provide my position on it)
2- drink more water (gallon per day)
3- get rid of all junk food and "Bad" food in your house (chips, soda's, candy, cakes, fried foods).
4-go grocery shopping and only buy food that will nourish your body. Staples for me are: eggs, chicken, ground turkey, fish (tuna/salmon), veggies, fruit, almonds, yogurt.
5- get rid of bad friends who don't support your goals or tempt you to eat bad.
Doing these things will help remove the temptation of overeating and if you do, it's on stuff that are good for you. I know cooking with new foods can be a challenge when you're used to eating out, having others prepare your food for you, or cooking unhealthy meals...BUT learning, studying and trying new (healthier) recipes will be the only way you will ever "get there". Side NOTE: Meal planning and prepping my meals for the week are a HUGE help to me. Not having to think about what I'm going to eat helps me stay on track. If I have to think, choose, or decide... I'm going to decide bad. So, I eliminate the in the moment decision when I decide healthy on Sunday's.
Good Luck! You can do this... you just have to convince yourself you can. That's the hardest part.
There's nothing wrong with chips, candy, etc if it fits into a person's calorie goals.
Source: Ate ice cream and cookies last night as it fit into my goals.
However, if they are 'trigger foods', then yes...get/keep them out of the house.8 -
abigail659 wrote: »Tips:
1 - get off herbalife (I know everyone said this already, but had to say it again to provide my position on it)
2- drink more water (gallon per day) - not necessary
3- get rid of all junk food and "Bad" food in your house (chips, soda's, candy, cakes, fried foods).
4-go grocery shopping and only buy food that will nourish your body will allow you to meet your calorie goal. Staples for me are: eggs, chicken, ground turkey, fish (tuna/salmon), veggies, fruit, almonds, yogurt.
5- get rid of bad friends who don't support your goals or tempt you to eat bad.
Doing these things will help remove the temptation of overeating and if you do, it's on stuff that are good for you. I know cooking with new foods can be a challenge when you're used to eating out, having others prepare your food for you, or cooking unhealthy meals...BUT learning, studying and trying new (healthier) recipes will be the only way you will ever "get there". Side NOTE: Meal planning and prepping my meals for the week are a HUGE help to me. Not having to think about what I'm going to eat helps me stay on track. If I have to think, choose, or decide... I'm going to decide bad. So, I eliminate the in the moment decision when I decide healthy on Sunday's.
Good Luck! You can do this... you just have to convince yourself you can. That's the hardest part.
fixed it for you11 -
I was a wellness coach for a while last year. I drink the shakes because they taste good, and it's something quick I can have in the morning. I usually eat most of my calories at night, so having 900+ calories to eat for dinner and late night snacks is perfect for me. Plus, I like that I get all my vitamins and minerals just drinking the shakes.
That being said, it's definitely not for everyone. I only drink the shakes and I hate the tea and tablets. You can lose just as much weight without drinking Herbalife as you can with it. If it's not working for you stop. But I would consult with your coach (the person who sold you product), and see if they can help you. A good coach will help you, even if you decide to stop consuming the products.
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The sad reality is that if you are running a calorie deficit, you are going to be hungry. That's just the way it is. Your body monitors the levels of the hormone Leptin, which is produced by your body fat, and as fat levels decline, Leptin levels decline. Your body tries to defend the fat stores and so kicks in a variety of physiological changes to try and save energy and increase caloric uptake. One of these is increasing hunger. There are some "tricks" you can use, like eating more protein, that can act mildly as an appetite suppressant, but in the end you will probably be hungry.
Losing weight is hard. Being fat is hard. Choose your hard.8 -
nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
I bet when you diet you try to lose too much too fast, which often leads to burnout or binging. Try setting your weekly weight loss goal for just a half pound or a pound per week.
Also find what foods fill you up the best and focus on them. For me it is protein and fiber.5 -
I'll give you my experience maybe it will help...
I tried restrictive after restrictive diets (Atkins, juice fasting, no white, slimfast etc) I was able to lose on these no problem. I thought I needed to eliminate or eat different foods instead of eating less food.
BUT each time I got to my goal weight I went back to the way I WANTED to eat AND I overate on the things I cut out. Counting calories solved that for me.
I can eat the foods I love but still lose weight (40 lbs down and counting). Of course I made some modifications to some foods, I add salad or steamed veggies when I want pizza so I only have one or two slices. I learned to make lower calorie options.
The point is this is how I want to eat so this will serve me nicely when I get to maintenance. I know approximately how much I can eat to lose and how much I can eat to maintain.
This was freeing and empowering for me. I'm in control of my food, it no longer controls me because I allow what I want to eat in my diet.
Hope this helps!6 -
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Always listen to wise Master Yoda!3 -
nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
You don't have an addiction to food. What you have is a compulsive behavior. Being on diets is not good for you because it sounds like you go from one diet to the next and probably binge between diets, this is common with yoyo dieting. You should find out why you feel out of control around food. The over eating is a symptom of something else and not the problem itself. Stop saying it's an addiction and take responsibility for what you eat. Get rid of the diets and make a change in your lifestyle by eating differently.9 -
I found in the first month there is a definite adjustment to live with. You will feel hungry at times because your body is not used to this new way of eating. After a couple weeks these go away and i feel full all the time eating 1800 calories and i am dropping weight every week. Also the quality of food... i could have 5 bagels with butter and have the same calories but instead i have loads of fruit and vegetables.0
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I found in the first month there is a definite adjustment to live with. You will feel hungry at times because your body is not used to this new way of eating. After a couple weeks these go away and i feel full all the time eating 1800 calories and i am dropping weight every week. Also the quality of food... i could have 5 bagels with butter and have the same calories but instead i have loads of fruit and vegetables.
Why would the only choices be a diet of nothing but bagels and butter or an Herbalife diet with loads of fruits and vegetables?
Why not....no Herbalife, a balanced diet of real food that includes loads of fruits and vegetables and the occasional bagel with butter?
The Herbalife is just expensive and unnecessary. You don't need Herbalife at all to successfully lose weight and be healthy.12 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »I found in the first month there is a definite adjustment to live with. You will feel hungry at times because your body is not used to this new way of eating. After a couple weeks these go away and i feel full all the time eating 1800 calories and i am dropping weight every week. Also the quality of food... i could have 5 bagels with butter and have the same calories but instead i have loads of fruit and vegetables.
Why would the only choices be a diet of nothing but bagels and butter or an Herbalife diet with loads of fruits and vegetables?
Why not....no Herbalife, a balanced diet of real food that includes loads of fruits and vegetables and the occasional bagel with butter?
The Herbalife is just expensive and unnecessary. You don't need Herbalife at all to successfully lose weight and be healthy.
Yes that is what i was saying, I mentioned the bagels because last year i had that amount on one day. Now i eat good healthy food and am losing weight with less calories than those bagels combined.3 -
Wow Thank you everyone for all the advice
I am very greatful 8 -
So I had my weigh in thisnoring and even after eating all their recommended food and starving I was only down 2oz
I'm done ! 3 -
nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
You have a behavioral problem, not an addiction problem. You habitually overeat, which so many of us are wont to do without willfully changing our behavior regarding comfort/stress eating. You are doing yourself a disservice by saying you are "addicted to food," because you are telling yourself you are not in control. Trust me - you are very much in control of what you put in your mouth.8 -
nickybow86 wrote: »So I had my weigh in thisnoring and even after eating all their recommended food and starving I was only down 2oz I'm done !
If you give up this easy, that certainly explains why you haven't had success in the past. You aren't going to lose big every week, and sometimes you'll even gain. There are many reasons for this. Water weight will mask losses and can occur with: high sodium intake, new/more intense exercise, close to TOM, because it's Saturday and the scale feels like being a jerk. Some women find they gain during ovulation. Read some of the threads stickied at the top of the getting started and general diet forums and be patient. Giving up will get you nowhere fast.9 -
nickybow86 wrote: »So I had my weigh in thisnoring and even after eating all their recommended food and starving I was only down 2oz I'm done !
Do you mean you are done with the Herbalife and are going to follow the advice in this thread, or that you are done with trying to lose weight and are just going to resign yourself to being obese? I hope the answer is that you are going to follow the advice, because you absolutely can lose weight eating a reasonable amount of any food you like. Good luck to you!!
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nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
Well, that's the trick.
Most of us here who are overweight have a poor relationship with food. This app has helped me figure out what reasonable is.
Plus, the success becomes empowering. Food isn't the boss, I am.
You are not going to be on Herbalife for the rest of your life. You have to figure out how to eat reasonably.
My advice is to log everything. Even when you binge. The sticker shock really helped me.4 -
Why don't you try eating the amount of food you normally eat and log it all for a week? Then you can see where you are now, and cut 200-300 calories per day from there.
Even if you maintain, you will be at a better place in 6 months than if you gain. I think you have to look at the big picture, and I wasn't ready for that for a long time. If I lose .2 this week and keep doing that for 6 months I will be 19 pounds lighter than I am now... and it would be feasible to continue.
These fad diets like Herbalife or Jenny Craig or W30 (sorry, guys!) are hard to maintain for forever. I'm sure it could be done, but it's not something I'm willing to do. Plus we need to know how to eat, and be able to enjoy our lives.
I know we all want instantaneous results, but deprivation leads to binges and hardly ever ends in maintenance of weight loss. I wish you success.8 -
nickybow86 wrote: »So I had my weigh in thisnoring and even after eating all their recommended food and starving I was only down 2oz I'm done !
It's been a day!
Stop weighing yourself, stick to the program for one pound a week. Do it absolutely religiously for a month and then weigh yourself.
You didn't get fat in a day, it's not going to come off in a day. It's taken my almost three years to lose 40 pounds, with plenty of missteps and stalls. But I'm still slowly trending down, and when I log like I should I lose weight.
Also in that three years, I went from being completely sedentary to running 15 miles a week and lifting heavy *kitten* above my head.
There isn't an end, I'll never be done. I am going to have to be careful with my eating for the rest of my life. I still want a river of cheese dip and a margarita the size of my head every day. But I am capable of making better choices and so are you.5 -
Hunger is part of the territory losing weight. You can't feel full and totally satisfied when you are at a calorie deficit. I've been down this road a few times in the past 30 years, like many of you. If I were you I would start by just tracking your calories and never lie to yourself about anything. First rule, EVERYTHING goes on the list. Once you are aware, you'll naturally start eating less. I guess I'm suggesting the long game. A permanent life style. Start at say 1800 or 1600 total calories in a day, look at it weekly and make sure that is your average daily intake. Once you're comfortable with that level of calories, cut a 100 the next week.
Your appetite will adjust if you are patient. The hunger pangs will reduce and you'll become more comfortable feeling hungry and it won't be necessarily a negative feeling.
The problem with programs like Herbalife is that to mass market and make a ton of money you have to make a one size fits all. I am currently able to keep to about 1300 calories a day and I'm making progress. However, I didn't just go straight to 1300. I first just tracked everything and that made me aware and I cut down just knowing what I was eating. Next I cut out most sugar, 20g per day is all. That helps a lot because for me sugar and refined flours act like a drug addiction and make me crave a lot of food. Then I started some moderate exercise, not too taxing. Then I started cutting calories. As I adjusted I'm comfortable with hunger because it is just hunger, not withdrawal symptoms. I also eat right before bed. It is a clean meal of about 35 to 45 g protein and 40 g of carbs. This works for me because if I go to bed hugary I just lie there thinking about cooking and eating and I don't sleep. When you are sleep deprived you eat much more the next day and it is painful. Eating late has not affected my weight loss at all. It's the damn booze, had to give it up because I can't just have one.
This has worked for me but I have to be vigilant because it is so easy to fall back in old ways. Just my experience, hope it helps.3 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
the biggest part is eating the right food. If you gorge on vegetables you are not going to stay overweight
OP, this can be helpful advice to help you feel full, but it's not a balanced, long-term solution.
I personally eat a lot of vegetables, but I also didn't want to face the rest of my life eating just vegetables.
There is no "wrong" or "right" food, and thinking of it that way isn't helpful.
What there is regarding certain foods concerns the appropriateness of the portion size for the food.
I can eat a pound of broccoli in a sitting, but it's not appropriate to eat a pound of caramels.
Yesterday, I had one caramel. I let it melt slowly in my mouth and savored every moment of eating it. It was 45 calories.
I also ate almost a half a pound of spinach.
Context and portion within your diet of certain foods is important.
OP, you'll learn all of this as you go along.
Nice post and great point. I believe that when you're limiting calories you certainly want all the calories you can get from super healthy foods like lean meats and veggies. I can't say this is true, but true for me at least. I get less hunger and I can tolerate the hunger when I'm eating healthy foods. Processed foods seem to make me more hungry and it's more of a craving to satisfy and addiction over just eating because you need food.1 -
nickybow86 wrote: »I'm on day 10 and I am 6lb down but I'm so *kitten* hungry I can't take it !! I don't want to give up already but I can't cope much longer !! Any tips for me please ?
Please eat dinner. 3 -
I've tried Herbalife, did it for 2 days and realised how awful it was and threw it out. Real food is always going to be better. Please don't put yourself through being miserable to lose weight. If you've genuinely tried everything and nothing has helped then see your Doctor. Herbalife is NOT the way forward.3
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Ye guys are awesome
I am planning on finishing out the month on herbalife and getting myself into an eating routine ( I use to skip breakfast and not eat until evening). I think I am being a little hard on myself ! I will take all of yer advice 1 -
nickybow86 wrote: »That's guys . I have tried counting calories , weight watchers , slimming worls ect ... to no avail I have an addition to food (like most people on this) so this is a last resort to try help. I'm 5'9 and 215lb ! It's not as easy as " just log your calories" when I start eatting I don't stop !
And when you reach the end of your rope on herbalife, you'll be right back where you started. I was 5'9" and 275 at one point. I was feeling so bad then, I know I considered food one of my very few joys. You're not addicted to anything- you just have some behaviors around food that need to be modified. We all do. Telling yourself that you're helpless is not the way to go.
Just enter your stats and pick no more than a 1.5 lb/week goal. Eat that, using actual food. I suspect that along with your shakes, you are probably undereating. You'll need to eat for the rest of your life... might as well learn how to do it now. 2 -
nickybow86 wrote: »Ye guys are awesome I am planning on finishing out the month on herbalife and getting myself into an eating routine ( I use to skip breakfast and not eat until evening). I think I am being a little hard on myself ! I will take all of yer advice
There is nothing wrong with skipping breakfast. Some of us do that deliberately, so our afternoon and evening meals/snacks can have more calories. Meal timing is also not important - what matters is calorie deficit. During the weekdays especially, I skip breakfast and then have a 500 calorie lunch. For the same calories, I could have a 200 calorie breakfast and a 300 calorie lunch, but I'm not really satisfied at those numbers. I don't mind feeling honestly hungry (as opposed to a sort of rabid munchies level of hungry) for a few hours, knowing that lunch will be really satisfying.1
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