Blood Type Diet Buddies?
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i decided I need a petite female, O+, thyroid diet - can anyone help me?2
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mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
No one was attacked at all. Nothing wrong with how she is eating but it has nothing to do with her blood type.10 -
mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
Actually, sometimes people DO need to be criticized. Your friend on HCG was literally starving herself. That type of behavior should not be encouraged.
But for the OP, not one person has attacked her. Pointing out that certain diets are unnecessary and overly complicated is not attacking, it is supporting. Addressing and debunking various health and diet myths is also not attacking.
What is interesting to you about this diet? Have you found scientific evidence that supports this way of eating?11 -
mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
I don't see any attacking - rather people trying to help someone understand what is actually driving their success. As I mentioned in my post upthread - it sounds like the OP has found a way of eating that enables her to achieve a calorie deficit, improves her overall health, and that she enjoys - something we all strive for. Why she wants to give credit for that success to a named diet is beyond me...
Additionally, HCG is a dangerous approach to weight loss, and the "it's your choice, who am I to comment" philosophy, in my humble opinion, is not in the best interest of your friend. If I were embarking on something dangerous, I would certainly hope that one of my friends would try to convince me that it might not be the best idea.
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mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
HCG is one of the worst diets out there. Its a stavation diet based on 500 to 800 calories per day. This makes it impossible to get adequate nutrients which generally result in increased muscle loss, suppressed metabolic functions, can lead to malnourishment, brittle nails and hair loss from not getting adequate fatty acids and proteins..
It would have been highly beneficial for your friend if someone intervened and gave them more effective programs to enable long term sustainability, that would have been sustainable.12 -
mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
Massage therapists have exactly zero hours of nutritional training. I wouldn't take my dietary advice from an MT. Absolutely no one has been attacking OP. Several people have encouraged her to continue to enjoy her dietary choices and the success she is finding with that. The science behind the diet is what's being questioned.10 -
People have weird definitions of attacked.
No one questioned her diet, just the blood type reasoning, which is a valuable thing to understand (and also explains why she's not getting any takers).
Anyway, I'm B- (I don't think the negative is relevant to the diet, though), and it's big on dairy, which works for me, since I'm pro dairy and have no digestive problems with dairy at all (used to find a glass of milk or yogurt the perfect pre run breakfast). However, oddly enough areas where B is somewhat more common than in the areas my family is from tend to be areas where lactose intolerance is widespread. (My family is all northern and western European, where lactose intolerance is uncommon, but so is type B.) So one more reason why the whole thing is weird.
Also Bs aren't supposed to eat chicken and I eat plenty of chicken and lost weight doing so.
(Won't get into the goat.)7 -
Why not?
A+ here. No issues at all with beef. Or anything else, really. There are some things I don't personally like, but haven't had any issues with them other than taste and/or texture.
Blood-type diet fail.4 -
I'm blood type A, and there is no way I could ever be happy as a vegetarian. Sorry. I have read up on the BTD, and I just can't get behind it. If it works for you, great, but its still "woo."1
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nutmegoreo wrote: »mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
Massage therapists have exactly zero hours of nutritional training. I wouldn't take my dietary advice from an MT. Absolutely no one has been attacking OP. Several people have encouraged her to continue to enjoy her dietary choices and the success she is finding with that. The science behind the diet is what's being questioned.nutmegoreo wrote: »mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
Massage therapists have exactly zero hours of nutritional training. I wouldn't take my dietary advice from an MT. Absolutely no one has been attacking OP. Several people have encouraged her to continue to enjoy her dietary choices and the success she is finding with that. The science behind the diet is what's being questioned.
That's not true actually,at least not in the UK - we do get some training in nutrition but it's basic and wouldn't cover anything that wasn't evidence based. Plus it's not really professional to be advising our clients about diet - I'd always advise them to see a doctor or qualified dietician. We're not att new age quacks3 -
Also, to add my two pennies worth -my blood type is A which apparently means I should eat whole grains,soy and vegetables,preferably raw. As someone who has inflammatory bowel disease this diet would put me in hospital7
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I am Type O. Believe it or not eating more meat (protein) I actually feel better. Surprisingly, what we eat does affect our blood as well as the rest of the body. Because of it I am over 200 pounds and taking my life back by having gastric sleeve done in March 2017. So for those of you who think its all baloney. Only some of it is true. I need to eat meat! I Like meat and it actually make me NOT want sweets. I like that !0
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But eating meat makes me feel good too and I'm type A.3
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People with blood type A (like me), are supposed to under produce stomach acids, therefore should avoid meat, per Http://www.dadamo.com/
The problem is that I often OVER produce stomach acids and have the stomach polyps (ulcer scars) to prove it. Ditto for a bunch of family members. We've been keeping the PPI manufacturers of the world in business. Amusingly, some of the other analysis was a match. To me it's not impossible that we may be able to input our DNA into a computer at some point in the future and get a decent set of dietary guidelines back. But it would have to be much more specific than only one input slotting us into one of only four categories.2 -
If OP stands for Old(er) Person, then that's me! I'm 65. I’m not new to this field. I was a chubby baby and a pleasingly plump child, according to my mother. My weight fluctuated during my teens—mostly up. I used the Grapefruit Diet and the Cottage Cheese Diet among many other ancient weight-loss schemes.
After I had the first of my 3 children (1971) my doctor told me if I’d just eat less than 1000 calories per day, I’d lose weight. It didn’t matter what you ate, he said. You can eat ice cream all day if you want, and if it’s less than 1000 calories, you’ll lose weight, he said. And that’s what I did. Sometimes I’d save my whole day’s calories just to have some gooey, high-cal ice cream concoction. I lost the baby weight and then some within three months. I used the same method after the birth of babies 2 and 3. In between, not so good. I wasn’t out of my 30s yet.
But I was just using the fewer-calories-in-than-expended method (CICO), which was not based on good nutrition. During my 30s and 40s the “science” said high-fat diets were bad, so we all ate no-fat cookies, nonfat ice cream and no-fat cake and wondered why we were expanding still. Especially our waists. By the time I got to 50, carbs were deemed bad. Now, of course, it’s sugar. By the way, also by the time I reached 50 I had passed 200 pounds on my bathroom scale.
Over the years I’ve done Jane Fonda’s No Pain No Gain aerobics, step aerobics, meditation, acupuncture, yoga, Pilates (my fav), swimming, amphetamines, Fen-phen …all of it. You name it, I’ve done it.
My health was bad—partly because of poor diet choices; partly because of genes. At 50 I had severe asthma, arthritis, stomach ulcers, heartburn/GERD and IBS, hypoglycemia, hypothyroidism, psoriasis, allergies, constipation big-time, idiopathic peripheral neuropathy, severe fatigue, etc., etc., etc. You get the picture.
I lost 70 pounds 15 years ago using first the Ornish Diet, which in the beginning banned nearly all carbohydrates, and then the South Beach Diet, which fit my hypoglycemia well and kept me from fainting. Somewhere in there people began to understand that 1000 calories was way too low for the average person, and that any way of eating that had the word Diet in it was an artificial way of eating. Also, that eating almost exclusively protein can wreck your kidneys. I lost the weight over a two-year period by eating 1200-1500 cal per day, depending on how active I was, eating nutritious food, and exercising in any way I could.
Now I’m 65, as I said. Fifteen years have passed since I lost the weight. And I’ve kept that weight off, within 5 pounds or so, up or down. But my health problems remained, for the most part. I’ve read more books on nutrition than I can count. I’ve looked at the science, the case studies. I did the research. I came across the Blood Type Diet about 10 years ago. Back then D’Adamo didn’t sell any products except for the book. First came the people and then the products, not the other way around. Just like the South Beach Diet, Atkins, etc., products became a big deal later on. And damn near everyone’s been on Dr. Oz. Guilt by association hardly seems fair, guys.
I said, “My roommate can't go a few days without beef. I'm nearly a vegetarian. Turns out her blood is type O (eat meat! eat meat!) and mine is type A (vegetarians rock).” Perhaps some in this group missed the point. I had become a near vegetarian because I couldn’t digest red meat and heavy, greasy chicken/turkey, yet I kept trying to keep protein in my life. Eggs and cheese get old. But a steak or hamburger would lie like dead weight in my stomach for days. My whole body ached from top to bottom. When I saw the profile of Type A, it was a huge relief to know I wasn’t crazy, that I really couldn’t digest red meat well, but at the same time I surely didn’t want to go vegetarian at all! Nothing happens overnight. I have worked at this all for years.
My roommate is much younger and newer at this than I. She has consistently carried 30+ excess pounds around and never been able to lose much weight—especially off her middle. She felt tremendous guilt eating red meat and eschewing “diet foods.” She tried just like I did to fit herself into something that was failing her. I’ve known her for 5 years and this is the first time I’ve ever seen her actually excited about eating well. And that’s what this is: eating well. It’s not dieting, or restricting, or denying oneself. It’s knowing that potatoes cause my arthritis to flare (and oranges too). It’s knowing that food is my friend and can make me feel oh so much better.
My asthma has virtually gone away. My stomach is finally right. No more gas, belching, bloating. No more constipation. My fatigue has lessened considerably. I can move again! So, bottom line: I didn’t come here to lose weight. I came to record what I eat and how I move to help myself be the best I can be. I use MyFitnessPal to be sure I’m getting all the nutrients I need and using all the tools available to me to live a happy, healthy life. The BTD way of eating fits my lifestyle.
So, again, here’s my OP: Hi! I'm blood type A and have been following the BTD for several years. It's the times when I get lazy and/or sloppy and eat "avoid" foods that I gain weight, become sluggish, sick, etc. I have lots of great recipes and good info on the Blood Type Diet. Looking for buddies to share with.
This is awesome!!
You will find that people can get carried away with their desire to be right and have a need to "set you straight." And I guess that is true in real life and the virtual world. You made if perfectly clear that you were looking for buddies to partner with. I'm not doing the BTD, but would be happy to have you as a MFP friend.
Best wishes on your journey and congratulations on maintaining your weight loss for so long!!!
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goldthistime wrote: »People with blood type A (like me), are supposed to under produce stomach acids, therefore should avoid meat, per Http://www.dadamo.com/
The problem is that I often OVER produce stomach acids and have the stomach polyps (ulcer scars) to prove it. Ditto for a bunch of family members. We've been keeping the PPI manufacturers of the world in business. Amusingly, some of the other analysis was a match. To me it's not impossible that we may be able to input our DNA into a computer at some point in the future and get a decent set of dietary guidelines back. But it would have to be much more specific than only one input slotting us into one of only four categories.
I'm also an A on a PPI1 -
Unless you are B blood type and then you really shouldn't be eating chicken, right?8 -
fruitydelicious wrote: »You will find that people can get carried away with their desire to be right and have a need to "set you straight."
Or perhaps people just want to give others the ability to make informed decisions when it comes to diet and nutrition.10 -
mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
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snickerscharlie wrote: »fruitydelicious wrote: »You will find that people can get carried away with their desire to be right and have a need to "set you straight."
Or perhaps people just want to give others the ability to make informed decisions based on actual science when it comes to diet and nutrition.
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Kschmidt64 wrote: »I am Type O. Believe it or not eating more meat (protein) I actually feel better. Surprisingly, what we eat does affect our blood as well as the rest of the body. Because of it I am over 200 pounds and taking my life back by having gastric sleeve done in March 2017. So for those of you who think its all baloney. Only some of it is true. I need to eat meat! I Like meat and it actually make me NOT want sweets. I like that !
But feeling better eating meat is not because of your blood type. It may have genetic roots, like the lactose tolerance gene, but not blood type.5 -
Kschmidt64 wrote: »I am Type O. Believe it or not eating more meat (protein) I actually feel better. Surprisingly, what we eat does affect our blood as well as the rest of the body. Because of it I am over 200 pounds and taking my life back by having gastric sleeve done in March 2017. So for those of you who think its all baloney. Only some of it is true. I need to eat meat! I Like meat and it actually make me NOT want sweets. I like that !
But feeling better eating meat is not because of your blood type. It may have genetic roots, like the lactose tolerance gene, but not blood type.
Exactly. As a type O I'm supposed to feel better eating meat and high fat, but I don't. I feel like I've swallowed a rock if I overdo it on meat and fat is not satisfying to me. I'm supposed to have superior digestion for meat as per blood type, but it's not the case for me. It also states that I'm also supposed to have bouts of excessive anger, temper tantrums, impulsivity and hyperactivity. This can't be farther from the truth. I'm generally calm, in fact I'm too calm and diplomatic it gets on some people's nerves, and I WISH I was hyperactive (I'm a couch potato unless purposely get moving). All that NEAT would be great to have while dieting, but yeah.. Not that lucky...The only thing they got right is that exercise helps my emotional health. It does. But then again, like any other woo, make enough assumptions and at least one is bound to be right, grab onto that and gleefully proclaim "I told you so".
This diet is the scientology of diets...4 -
tamusedmonkey wrote: »Kschmidt64 wrote: »I am Type O. Believe it or not eating more meat (protein) I actually feel better. Surprisingly, what we eat does affect our blood as well as the rest of the body. Because of it I am over 200 pounds and taking my life back by having gastric sleeve done in March 2017. So for those of you who think its all baloney. Only some of it is true. I need to eat meat! I Like meat and it actually make me NOT want sweets. I like that !
But feeling better eating meat is not because of your blood type. It may have genetic roots, like the lactose tolerance gene, but not blood type.
Exactly. As a type O I'm supposed to feel better eating meat and high fat, but I don't. I feel like I've swallowed a rock if I overdo it on meat and fat is not satisfying to me. I'm supposed to have superior digestion for meat as per blood type, but it's not the case for me. It also states that I'm also supposed to have bouts of excessive anger, temper tantrums, impulsivity and hyperactivity. This can't be farther from the truth. I'm generally calm, in fact I'm too calm and diplomatic it gets on some people's nerves, and I WISH I was hyperactive (I'm a couch potato unless purposely get moving). All that NEAT would be great to have while dieting, but yeah.. Not that lucky...The only thing they got right is that exercise helps my emotional health. It does. But then again, like any other woo, make enough assumptions and at least one is bound to be right, grab onto that and gleefully proclaim "I told you so".
This diet is the scientology of diets...
Right. It only works and makes perfect sense when you just happen to like the food that was arbitrarily matched up with your blood type when this guy sat down and created the diet out of thin air.2 -
mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
The first time I ever heard of the Blood Type Diet was from a naturopath. She was speaking at a conference I was attending. She told the story of trying out the diet. She LOVED it. Her bloodtype was the one that does best on primarily vegetarian diet. She lost some weight, her skin glowed, people commented. It was awesome. Then, during a chat with her mother, she discovered she had been mistaken about her blood type. She was actually the type that is supposed to do well with lots of meat and fish. Oops.15 -
Wow, again, wow. People really do just skim. I don't blame them because my post was very long. I felt like I needed to explain my OP, and I did. But many of you must have missed the part where I said I lost the weight 15 years ago before I'd ever heard of the BTD. AND I lost the weight using nutritionally balanced CICO with exercise. I still use that same recipe. I use the BTD for the ingredients. So please stop replying to my OP unless you (1) have read the entire OP and/or (2) you'd like to be my buddy. Anything else is off topic. PS -- anyone who has nearly 3,000 posts in this community has too much time on his/her hands. That's the opinion of this Aquarian Rabbit, anyway. Oh, and I'm a flexitarian.2
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Wow, again, wow. People really do just skim. I don't blame them because my post was very long. I felt like I needed to explain my OP, and I did. But many of you must have missed the part where I said I lost the weight 15 years ago before I'd ever heard of the BTD. AND I lost the weight using nutritionally balanced CICO with exercise. I still use that same recipe. I use the BTD for the ingredients. So please stop replying to my OP unless you (1) have read the entire OP and/or (2) you'd like to be my buddy. Anything else is off topic. PS -- anyone who has nearly 3,000 posts in this community has too much time on his/her hands. That's the opinion of this Aquarian Rabbit, anyway. Oh, and I'm a flexitarian.
I don't think people were attacking you or your post;mostly just discussing the evidence,if any,for the BTD diet which,as I understand it, isn't only aimed at weight loss anyway.1 -
1. If you don't want people commenting on your thread, then you should ask the mods to close it. This is an open discussion forum, meaning anyone and everyone is free to comment.
2. Pointing out that BTD, the topic of your thread, is scientifically bogus is both on topic and relevant. You posted this in the Food and Nutrition forum. People come to this forum for advice about food and nutrition. If someone creates a post that is based on bad information, the MFP community has the right (and some would even say an obligation) to correct that information so new members won't get duped into trying something that isn't based on scientifically proven facts.
3. Telling people who have over 3,000 posts that they have too much time on their hands is uncalled for. Most people with high post counts have been here for upwards of 6-7 years, if not longer. That they have a high post count indicates that they've taken the time to help others who have questions about or are struggling with their weight loss plan.
4. That you're getting defensive and taking cheap shots at everyone because they're pointing out that blood type has nothing to do with diet or weight loss reflects poorly on you.20 -
comptonelizabeth wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
Massage therapists have exactly zero hours of nutritional training. I wouldn't take my dietary advice from an MT. Absolutely no one has been attacking OP. Several people have encouraged her to continue to enjoy her dietary choices and the success she is finding with that. The science behind the diet is what's being questioned.nutmegoreo wrote: »mrsbatman314 wrote: »my massage therapist swears by it! I am A+ and interested in it! I have read all the comments and wow nothing like asking for one thing and being attacked...If it works for one stay with it if not don't...But don't tear others apart! That is not what these forums are for. I for one don't believe in shakes as meal replacements. Help yes but the whole meal...is that what ones goals are? Yes you will lose but when you start eating normal healthy food will you gain it all back..I have a friend who did those pregnancy hormones drops HGC...lost 75 lbs..once done (because you cant live on them) gain every pound back...but it was her choice and shouldn't be criticized...just my opinion!
Massage therapists have exactly zero hours of nutritional training. I wouldn't take my dietary advice from an MT. Absolutely no one has been attacking OP. Several people have encouraged her to continue to enjoy her dietary choices and the success she is finding with that. The science behind the diet is what's being questioned.
That's not true actually,at least not in the UK - we do get some training in nutrition but it's basic and wouldn't cover anything that wasn't evidence based. Plus it's not really professional to be advising our clients about diet - I'd always advise them to see a doctor or qualified dietician. We're not att new age quacks
That may be program specific. The only nutritional information I received during my education (former career) involved the order of food consumption. Eating salad at the end of the meal to cleanse the colon with no other dietary changes was supposed to lead to weight loss
ETA: that was 5 minutes of my life I would like back.3
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