Greek Yogurt on a bulk
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I had to eat 1.5 lbs. of red potatoes last night to hit what I needed in carbs. Ice cream would have been much easier to consume. Unfortunately, I was already at what I wanted in fat for the day, and I'd rather eat rotting goat than rice.
Admittedly, I just blew a bench PR out of the water this morning, fuelled by black beans, tilapia, apples and a chocolate chip Clif bar. According to the purists, that last one is horrible for me (processed carbs abloobloobloo). *kitten* given=zero.1 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I had to eat 1.5 lbs. of red potatoes last night to hit what I needed in carbs. Ice cream would have been much easier to consume. Unfortunately, I was already at what I wanted in fat for the day, and I'd rather eat rotting goat than rice.
Admittedly, I just blew a bench PR out of the water this morning, fuelled by black beans, tilapia, apples and a chocolate chip Clif bar. According to the purists, that last one is horrible for me (processed carbs abloobloobloo). *kitten* given=zero.
Well apparently, I need to eat more potatoes. Also, I did make a fantastic garlic and parsley roasted red potato home fries last night along with a brown sugar bourbon sirloin.0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I had to eat 1.5 lbs. of red potatoes last night to hit what I needed in carbs. Ice cream would have been much easier to consume. Unfortunately, I was already at what I wanted in fat for the day, and I'd rather eat rotting goat than rice.
Admittedly, I just blew a bench PR out of the water this morning, fuelled by black beans, tilapia, apples and a chocolate chip Clif bar. According to the purists, that last one is horrible for me (processed carbs abloobloobloo). *kitten* given=zero.
Well apparently, I need to eat more potatoes. Also, I did make a fantastic garlic and parsley roasted red potato home fries last night along with a brown sugar bourbon sirloin.
Not many people can throw down on plain potatoes like I can. Just stab some holes, wrap in wet paper towels, zap in the microwave for ten minutes, eat whole with hands.
It's the fat Irish kid in me.1 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
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Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
How many calories are you eating?0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
How many calories are you eating?
The goal is 3,000
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Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
I did the whole 'clean' bulk thing, and after about a month.. I was miserable, full, bloated and in the end...not gaining. I had to eat a lot of calories in proportion to my size in order to gain. But once I added a treat at the end of the day, usually ice cream since it is so easy to get down for the cals, I was in surplus and gaining... I was finally progressing and my gym performance was great.
But in the end whatever makes you feel good and helps you reach your goals.2 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
I did the whole 'clean' bulk thing, and after about a month.. I was miserable, full, bloated and in the end...not gaining. I had to eat a lot of calories in proportion to my size in order to gain. But once I added a treat at the end of the day, usually ice cream since it is so easy to get down for the cals, I was in surplus and gaining... I was finally progressing and my gym performance was great.
But in the end whatever makes you feel good and helps you reach your goals.
How much Ice Cream do you usually eat?
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Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
I did the whole 'clean' bulk thing, and after about a month.. I was miserable, full, bloated and in the end...not gaining. I had to eat a lot of calories in proportion to my size in order to gain. But once I added a treat at the end of the day, usually ice cream since it is so easy to get down for the cals, I was in surplus and gaining... I was finally progressing and my gym performance was great.
But in the end whatever makes you feel good and helps you reach your goals.
How much Ice Cream do you usually eat?
Usually a serving or two depending on the brand. I would say around 300 cals worth, sometimes more, sometimes less0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
If you've somehow determined that your body has trouble processing those things (whatever that may mean), I don't blame you. No sense eating things you have trouble with, but your n=1 doesn't mean it applies to everybody.
Personally, I have no trouble at all processing ice cream or candy. Or pizza, or Mexican food, fast food, chips, etc. I eat such things in moderation within the context of an overall well-balanced diet and have never had any trouble "processing" any of those things. Context and dosage matter.0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
They don't exist1 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
They don't exist
How not? You don't agree that some cabs have little to no nutritional value.0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
Don't know why you equate eating some ice cream (which isn't just carbs btw, it has quite a bit of fat) = only eating junk food for a year?1 -
singingflutelady wrote: »
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
Don't know why you equate eating some ice cream (which isn't just carbs btw, it has quite a bit of fat) = only eating junk food for a year?
The reply was to my question on empty carbs. Y'all are some die hard ice cream eaters!!0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
If I ate only kale or broccoli for a year believe me my results would be pretty sub par. What is your point?2 -
I really don't understand why there has to always be extremes.. it's either well balanced or junk all day. If you don't want to "spend money" on a "Gucci purse" or "BMW" then that is your prerogative but if I have the budget I am definitely going to have fun and spend it how I please2
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Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
How does all calories are energy automatically default to eating junk 24-7 for a year..???1 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
They don't exist
How not? You don't agree that some cabs have little to no nutritional value.
That does not mean their empty, it just means they are not nutritionally dense..they still provide energy, regardless of nutrition so they are not empty2 -
I don't know how we can't agree that it would be more nutritionally to your advantage to get the rest of your cals from something other than junk food. You guys win... eat it up.0
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Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
If I ate only kale or broccoli for a year believe me my results would be pretty sub par. What is your point?
It proves the point that not all foods provide the same benefits. I'm not saying don't ever eat deserts and candy or whatever , I'm just saying don't act like there are not better choices.
From experience, you don't need the junk cals to put on muscle. That's some bodybuilder "bulking" gym crap that only works for most of the pro's because they have some "help" to get rid of the fat they've put on.
I've put on 6lbs of lean muscle in 3 months and lost .5% of body fat all while not eating ICE CREAM or any other EMPTY sugary stuff to do it.
My point is, is that it's doable. Does it take a little longer to see the scale move? Yes, but it's muscle that translates to gains.
Seriously not trying to start a war either.0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
If I ate only kale or broccoli for a year believe me my results would be pretty sub par. What is your point?
It proves the point that not all foods provide the same benefits. I'm not saying don't ever eat deserts and candy or whatever , I'm just saying don't act like there are not better choices.
From experience, you don't need the junk cals to put on muscle. That's some bodybuilder "bulking" gym crap that only works for most of the pro's because they have some "help" to get rid of the fat they've put on.
I've put on 6lbs of lean muscle in 3 months and lost .5% of body fat all while not eating ICE CREAM or any other EMPTY sugary stuff to do it.
My point is, is that it's doable. Does it take a little longer to see the scale move? Yes, but it's muscle that translates to gains.
Seriously not trying to start a war either.
How did you determine fat and muscle gain?
You associate foods as being bad or good. And that is fine. Its not how I or a lot of people would do it and its cool. But the foods you eat have more impact on satiety than health. Plenty of diets have already proven that. There is a twinkie diet, starbucks diets and Mcdonalds diets. In all cases have people lost subatainal amounts of weight eating thia foods. In all cased they improved metabolic markers. So the hyperbole of junk vs clean doesn't really hold up. That doesnt mean you should change your diet, it just means your argument isnt that valid. You use two extremes as to illustrate a point but whats more nutrious for you a diet in all chicken or all kale?
Personally, i get 85 to 90% of my calories from nutritious sources of food. I hit and/ or exceed protein. I eat adequate fats and carbs are in good position. So dedicating 260 calories to ice cream instead of more fruit has been more valuable to my progress than anything else. It helps keep me on track and allows me to lose at an adequate pace. You have to remember that dieting is multifaceted... and its just as important or more important to address psychological and behavioral needs than eating more nutrients than you need.
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Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
If I ate only kale or broccoli for a year believe me my results would be pretty sub par. What is your point?
It proves the point that not all foods provide the same benefits. I'm not saying don't ever eat deserts and candy or whatever , I'm just saying don't act like there are not better choices.
From experience, you don't need the junk cals to put on muscle. That's some bodybuilder "bulking" gym crap that only works for most of the pro's because they have some "help" to get rid of the fat they've put on.
I've put on 6lbs of lean muscle in 3 months and lost .5% of body fat all while not eating ICE CREAM or any other EMPTY sugary stuff to do it.
My point is, is that it's doable. Does it take a little longer to see the scale move? Yes, but it's muscle that translates to gains.
Seriously not trying to start a war either.
How did you determine fat and muscle gain?
You associate foods as being bad or good. And that is fine. Its not how I or a lot of people would do it and its cool. But the foods you eat have more impact on satiety than health. Plenty of diets have already proven that. There is a twinkie diet, starbucks diets and Mcdonalds diets. In all cases have people lost subatainal amounts of weight eating thia foods. In all cased they improved metabolic markers. So the hyperbole of junk vs clean doesn't really hold up. That doesnt mean you should change your diet, it just means your argument isnt that valid. You use two extremes as to illustrate a point but whats more nutrious for you a diet in all chicken or all kale?
Personally, i get 85 to 90% of my calories from nutritious sources of food. I hit and/ or exceed protein. I eat adequate fats and carbs are in good position. So dedicating 260 calories to ice cream instead of more fruit has been more valuable to my progress than anything else. It helps keep me on track and allows me to lose at an adequate pace. You have to remember that dieting is multifaceted... and its just as important or more important to address psychological and behavioral needs than eating more nutrients than you need.
The whole point is the OP asked about benefits of Greek yogurt. Personally I believe it's more beneficial to eat Greek yogurt than ice cream even if it puts you over your cals for the day. Just my option, so let's just let it die out.
A group of us used the Bod Pod to determine our before and after results.0 -
I don't know how we can't agree that it would be more nutritionally to your advantage to get the rest of your cals from something other than junk food. You guys win... eat it up.
If you meet your macro and Micro requirements for the day, what additional advantage do you get? You can only absorb so many nutrients...1 -
I don't know how we can't agree that it would be more nutritionally to your advantage to get the rest of your cals from something other than junk food. You guys win... eat it up.
If you meet your macro and Micro requirements for the day, what additional advantage do you get? You can only absorb so many nutrients...
Pshah. Eat some polar bear liver and get back to me on dem vitamin A levels.2 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
Why would you be pushing people to waste cals on ice cream.
Because we have a grasp on nutrition and understand that one food does not ruin a diet or inhibit one's ability to achieve a goal. What does inhibit muscle growth, is inadequate calories. So "wasting" calories on ice cream can help people reach their goals. Diets are simple... it's about context and dosage which makes it harder for people to understand. BTW, on my high carb/high calorie days, I eat ice cream because for some reason, I find it difficult to get over 300g of carbs. Who would have thought.
What's your thoughts on "empty carbs"?
How are you defining empty carbs? Are we talking sodas, candy, or what?
This is my point. .5 cups of Ice Cream is roughly 150 cals. 2 scoops of ON's whey protein is 240. So why waste it on ice cream, you get more bang for your buck with protein.
Lump ice cream into the empty carb section as well.
Just my opinion I guess, but the OP would be better off with a cup of plain Greek yogurt with a cup of blueberries than eating ice cream.
Because as Eric Helms said, "Once our nutrient needs are met, we don’t get extra credit for eating more nutritious food."
Once you've met your protein requirements, what do you hope to accomplish by eating more protein? And what difference do you think it's going to make if you eat Greek yogurt and blueberries instead of ice cream?
As far as "empty carbs", I'll offer my .02 - if you're eating so much of them that they're interfering with your ability to meet your macro/micronutrient goals and affecting your satiety/adherence, it's not a good thing; if your diet is well-rounded and you're hitting your goals, there's absolutely nothing wrong with including them (in moderation) in your discretionary intake.
Sounds like I'm just on my own island with the ice cream thing. My personal preference is to avoid eating sugary stuff like ice cream, candy, snack cakes, cake and other things of this nature. I can easily find the cals in other things that my body processes easier.
I'd rather run on clean fuel myself.
Calories are all fuel i.e energy so not sure what your point is....
Not true. If you ate only junk food for a year and I ate a well balanced meals for a year there would be a huge difference between how we both performed.
If I ate only kale or broccoli for a year believe me my results would be pretty sub par. What is your point?
It proves the point that not all foods provide the same benefits. I'm not saying don't ever eat deserts and candy or whatever , I'm just saying don't act like there are not better choices.
From experience, you don't need the junk cals to put on muscle. That's some bodybuilder "bulking" gym crap that only works for most of the pro's because they have some "help" to get rid of the fat they've put on.
I've put on 6lbs of lean muscle in 3 months and lost .5% of body fat all while not eating ICE CREAM or any other EMPTY sugary stuff to do it.
My point is, is that it's doable. Does it take a little longer to see the scale move? Yes, but it's muscle that translates to gains.
Seriously not trying to start a war either.
Ultimately of course it's do-able. But who wants a life with out ice cream?
That's the point- we love our ice cream- and there is literally no harm in eating it WITHIN context of a balanced diet and approximately hitting macro goals.
You don't get bonus points for eating extra healthy- and there is literally no reason to stuff yourself with food if you can hit your calorie goal in a less stressful manner.It proves the point that not all foods provide the same benefits.
specifically regarding what you said here- can you please point to the class where someone said this?
No one thinks ice cream = a steak.
what ice cream = is calories and carbs.
which some of us need for hitting our bulking goals.
Ultimately 3K for a man is chump change- I'm sitting at 2500 right now- and when I start pushing to 3000 I start to need my filler foods to make calories- but my standing calorie goal is usually 1700-2000- so an extra 1000 calories is a fk ton for me.
Most men bulk upwards of 4-6K- and you can best believe- cake and ice cream make their way in. You don't get an award for eating the most chicken breasts to hit your protein.
If you have perfect macros and fail to hit your surplus- all is lost.0 -
Ehh, I don't do cake and ice cream, even at my current 3600-4500. I do however eat the hell out of some calorically dense protein bars (FitCrunch, Supreme, etc.) protein brownies/cookies, etc. 400 kcals in less than 100g? I'll take it.1
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Ehh, I don't do cake and ice cream, even at my current 3600-4500. I do however eat the hell out of some calorically dense protein bars (FitCrunch, Supreme, etc.) protein brownies/cookies, etc. 400 kcals in less than 100g? I'll take it.
some people genuinely don't like it- which is fine- you do you- and I do me (giggity) but like you said on page one- a personal preference isn't "pushing" - which is the great thing about food. Eat what you want to get you to your goals.
I'd probably die if I had to eat protein bars all the time- barf. I'd rather eat fake protein ice cream (halo top- not artice zero). protein bars are purely emergency food for me. necessary cardboard to met a need.0
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