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Are GMOs bad for you?
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »GMO's are absolutely dangerous. There have been several scientific studies on animals that indicate health risks associated with GMO's such as infertility, accelerated aging, immune problems and the list goes on and on. That and the fact that there are over 125 toxic chemicals in the majority of foods we eat. Eat organic and cut out the processed food is my advice to anyone.
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »It has not been proven. They have paid scientists who have a vested interest in the GMO market. My opinion is that it can't be coincidental that food allergies have risen sharply since the introduction of GMO products, the same for mental illness,and gastrointestinal problems. Now that they have begin labeling most GMO items I choose to avoid them as much as possible. Unless they are able to prove GMO's to be harmless beyond a shadow of a doubt and prove it with scientific evidence from some completely independent source who has nothing to gain from the GMO market then I will MAYBE reconsider. As of right now? I do NOT trust them.
It absolutely can be coincidental. There are a number of thing that have changed over this time period.
Not bloody likely.
Really?
so by your faulty logic then organic food causes mental illness?
But, wait a minute
Looks like spending more money on prisons in Pennsyvania could be the cause of mental illness
or could it be that mental ilness is caused by more Australians going on cruises
You can buy into whatever you like. It is your choice to believe that these GMO products are safe. I feel they are not. I stand by my original comment. You are one of those who like to twist words and distort the actual meaning in favor of a new and made up meaning that enables you to argue because you need to inflict yourself on others.
Beliefs and Feels are not science.
Not really a strong stance.7 -
fitforeternity493 wrote: »GMO's are absolutely dangerous. There have been several scientific studies on animals that indicate health risks associated with GMO's such as infertility, accelerated aging, immune problems and the list goes on and on. That and the fact that there are over 125 toxic chemicals in the majority of foods we eat. Eat organic and cut out the processed food is my advice to anyone.
Which studies are you referring to here?3 -
fitforeternity493 wrote: »GMO's are absolutely dangerous. There have been several scientific studies on animals that indicate health risks associated with GMO's such as infertility, accelerated aging, immune problems and the list goes on and on. That and the fact that there are over 125 toxic chemicals in the majority of foods we eat. Eat organic and cut out the processed food is my advice to anyone.
Can you list some of these 125 toxins in our food? Also, you do know that organic foods use an abundance of toxic chemicals in their farming, right? No? Oh.11 -
fitforeternity493 wrote: »GMO's are absolutely dangerous. There have been several scientific studies on animals that indicate health risks associated with GMO's such as infertility, accelerated aging, immune problems and the list goes on and on. That and the fact that there are over 125 toxic chemicals in the majority of foods we eat. Eat organic and cut out the processed food is my advice to anyone.
Complete nonsense.
Which studies? Post them. Just make sure it's not the retracted and debunked serilini studies.
So I guess you'll never eat the following fruits and vegetables, as they contain naturally occurring toxins:
okra - sterculic acid (anti-metabolite)
celery - psoralins (light-stimulated carcinogens)
peanuts - aflatoxin (hepatic carconigen)
lima beans - cyanogenic glycosides
carrots - carotatoxin (neurotxin)
mushrooms - hydrazines (carcinogen)
tomatoes - tomatine (neurotoxin), quercetin glycosides (carcinogens)
broccoli - benzpyrene (carcinogin), goitrin (shuts down thyroid)
potatoes - solanine (toxin; causes spina bifida), chaconine (neutrotoxin), isoflavones (estrogens), arsenic
soy - genistin, daidzin, coumesterol (phytoestrogens)
cabbage - thiocyanates (shuts down thyroid)
spinach - phytic acid (chelates iron and - no absorption - anemia and immiune dysfunction)
wheat germ - phytoestrogens
alfalfa sprouts - canavanine (arginine mimic; highly toxic to growing
mammals)
nutmeg - myristicin (hallucinogen, spasmodic)
mustard - allyl isothiocyanate (war gas)
As for organic, no need to spend the extra money as research has shown that eating organic is not healthier than conventional produce.
Also see here for a list of toxic pesticides allowed in organic farming.
https://risk-monger.blogactiv.eu/2015/11/12/the-risk-mongers-dirty-dozen-12-highly-toxic-pesticides-approved-for-use-in-organic-farming/18 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »finny11122 wrote: »finny11122 wrote: »I heard farmers say animals would not eat the GMO feed .
I find this very hard to believe considering that much of the corn going into animal feed is GMO I believe. Also, I saw a video where a science teacher put out GMO and non-GMO corn, and the squirrels ate both equally. I've seen these statements made before, but have not seen anything to back them up. I would be interested if anyone has a study showing this.
It came straight from the horses mouth
Is the horse's name Ed?
yes it sure is .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GAbc5uQXJo 0 -
fitforeternity493 wrote: »GMO's are absolutely dangerous. There have been several scientific studies on animals that indicate health risks associated with GMO's such as infertility, accelerated aging, immune problems and the list goes on and on. That and the fact that there are over 125 toxic chemicals in the majority of foods we eat. Eat organic and cut out the processed food is my advice to anyone.
Complete nonsense.
Which studies? Post them. Just make sure it's not the retracted and debunked serilini studies.
So I guess you'll never eat the following fruits and vegetables, as they contain naturally occurring toxins:
okra - sterculic acid (anti-metabolite)
celery - psoralins (light-stimulated carcinogens)
peanuts - aflatoxin (hepatic carconigen)
lima beans - cyanogenic glycosides
carrots - carotatoxin (neurotxin)
mushrooms - hydrazines (carcinogen)
tomatoes - tomatine (neurotoxin), quercetin glycosides (carcinogens)
broccoli - benzpyrene (carcinogin), goitrin (shuts down thyroid)
potatoes - solanine (toxin; causes spina bifida), chaconine (neutrotoxin), isoflavones (estrogens), arsenic
soy - genistin, daidzin, coumesterol (phytoestrogens)
cabbage - thiocyanates (shuts down thyroid)
spinach - phytic acid (chelates iron and - no absorption - anemia and immiune dysfunction)
wheat germ - phytoestrogens
alfalfa sprouts - canavanine (arginine mimic; highly toxic to growing
mammals)
nutmeg - myristicin (hallucinogen, spasmodic)
mustard - allyl isothiocyanate (war gas)
As for organic, no need to spend the extra money as research has shown that eating organic is not healthier than conventional produce.
Also see here for a list of toxic pesticides allowed in organic farming.
https://risk-monger.blogactiv.eu/2015/11/12/the-risk-mongers-dirty-dozen-12-highly-toxic-pesticides-approved-for-use-in-organic-farming/
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fitforeternity493 wrote: »GMO's are absolutely dangerous. There have been several scientific studies on animals that indicate health risks associated with GMO's such as infertility, accelerated aging, immune problems and the list goes on and on. That and the fact that there are over 125 toxic chemicals in the majority of foods we eat. Eat organic and cut out the processed food is my advice to anyone.
Complete nonsense.
Which studies? Post them. Just make sure it's not the retracted and debunked serilini studies.
So I guess you'll never eat the following fruits and vegetables, as they contain naturally occurring toxins:
okra - sterculic acid (anti-metabolite)
celery - psoralins (light-stimulated carcinogens)
peanuts - aflatoxin (hepatic carconigen)
lima beans - cyanogenic glycosides
carrots - carotatoxin (neurotxin)
mushrooms - hydrazines (carcinogen)
tomatoes - tomatine (neurotoxin), quercetin glycosides (carcinogens)
broccoli - benzpyrene (carcinogin), goitrin (shuts down thyroid)
potatoes - solanine (toxin; causes spina bifida), chaconine (neutrotoxin), isoflavones (estrogens), arsenic
soy - genistin, daidzin, coumesterol (phytoestrogens)
cabbage - thiocyanates (shuts down thyroid)
spinach - phytic acid (chelates iron and - no absorption - anemia and immiune dysfunction)
wheat germ - phytoestrogens
alfalfa sprouts - canavanine (arginine mimic; highly toxic to growing
mammals)
nutmeg - myristicin (hallucinogen, spasmodic)
mustard - allyl isothiocyanate (war gas)
As for organic, no need to spend the extra money as research has shown that eating organic is not healthier than conventional produce.
Also see here for a list of toxic pesticides allowed in organic farming.
https://risk-monger.blogactiv.eu/2015/11/12/the-risk-mongers-dirty-dozen-12-highly-toxic-pesticides-approved-for-use-in-organic-farming/
Not to mention good old-fashioned cyanide, present in apples and almonds!6 -
38 countries have banned them as of October 2015 even though some participate in the growing. http://sustainablepulse.com/2015/10/22/gm-crops-now-banned-in-36-countries-worldwide-sustainable-pulse-research/#.WJo2H9IrLct2
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GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?5 -
GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?
Ridiculous. Most grown foods have TONS of pesticides on them. Organic produce usually uses more, actually, because they are less effective than synthetic pesticides.
Also, please tell me how eating food alters ones DNA.6 -
GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?
Your post contradicts itself. Very impressive batch of woo here.
Curious - What do you think eating food with modified genes will do to your DNA? Is that a risk?3 -
GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?
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GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?
"You are what you eat" isn't a prediction based on science, it's just a folk saying.
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janejellyroll wrote: »GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?
"You are what you eat" isn't a prediction based on science, it's just a folk saying.
Pfft, obviously you've never met this guy.
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janejellyroll wrote: »GMOs have TONS of pesticides on them (since they're made to be resistant, so farmers spray them more now than ever) that AREN'T good for us and many are known to cause cancer.
You are what you eat. If you're eating food with modified genes, what do you think that will do to your DNA? Is that a risk you want to take?
"You are what you eat" isn't a prediction based on science, it's just a folk saying.
Pfft, obviously you've never met this guy.
That is . . . mesmerizing.1 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl0-Ds6Cioc
I suppose this geneticist knows nothing according to the pro GMO gang .0 -
finny11122 wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl0-Ds6Cioc
I suppose this geneticist knows nothing according to the pro GMO gang .
Lol! That's David Suzuki, who's never actually studied GMO foods (his background is zoology) and made a fortune in the '90s selling books about spiritual healing.
I have no stance on GMOs, having never studied them myself or cared enough to read any related science, but if you're citing David Suzuki, you're really grasping at straws. Even he doesn't say, "They're dangerous." His whole point is that there could maybe be unintended consequences.
But his primary argument is that Monsanto is evil, which I have no disagreement with. Handing our food supply over to a handful of multinationals is dumb and dangerous. That doesn't make the food itself dangerous, which is why Suzuki doesn't claim that.
Really, you should watch the video you posted and read between the lines. It's all in there.13 -
Yeah, pretty much standard for me is that if Suzuki is against it, it can't be all bad. He has learned how to make money off of scaring people. Used to be okay and his CBC tv show the Nature of Things is not terrible, but getting going on any of the hot topics and he falls flat on his face. Especially if the audience is not vetted first.5
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sydney_bosque wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »sydney_bosque wrote: »
But it can have more pesticides on it than a GMO crop. Choose what's important to you.-I would recommend organic because organic legally cannot be GMO.
No, it can't. It still has to fall within specific organic-approved pesticides.
The organic label simply dictates what kinds of pesticides you can use, not how much of them. So yes, organic food can have more pesticides on it than gmo. BTW. many of which are acutely more toxic to humans by volume than the evil roundup used on GMOs. With a degree in horticulture you should know those things.
No, an organic certification means your pesticide use is under constant regulation. You are subject to surprise inspections, and stricter quality tests.
Many commercial growers that don't apply for organic certification are only inspected every 3-5 years. And hardly ever subjected to quality control. You may think they apply less because they say they do. But I have seen growers put 5x the amount of legal pesticide on a crop.
And yes, my degree in horticulture, plus my commercial/agricultural pesticide applicator's license gives me insight into this issue.
This just isn't true.
You have plenty of farms that grow organic right next to non-organic- and no one is under constant regulation.
All are subject to surprise inspections and once certified organic there isn't that much more oversight. The USDA and FDA can't camp out at farms. They don't have the manpower.
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