Vegan/vegetarian facts that fail to address...
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mactaffy428 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »rockymtdeb wrote: »Look at Plant based Whole Foods. All plants have protein, fats, and carbs. Are you eating a lot of processed foods? Processed foods, have extra calories, salt and sugar. Are you drinking enough water? Some suggestions are to research, Chef AJ, Engine 2 Diet, Dr. Greager, Dr. Garth Davis and many more. Their focus is using plants to improve health, but weight loss is a great side effect.
Unless you're referring to trace amounts, it's just not true that all plants contain protein and fat.
Of course they do! Why else would herbivores grow? They only eat plants and they obviously have muscle and fat....
Come on, people!
Plants contain protein and fat. But not *all plants* contain protein and fat.1 -
I've been a fatter vegetarian and a thinner vegetarian. I've been vegan, lacto-only veg and ovo-lacto veg. The only difference between me being a fat herbivore and a thin herbivore is the number of calories I eat every day. I find it much easier to hit my protein targets when I include eggs and dairy, but only because I hate cooking and won't do it every day, and I'm not willing to do what I would need to in order to hit my protein and stay within my calorie budget as a vegan.
Lots of low-calorie foods are vegan, but so are peanut butter, dates, brown rice, roasted root veggies in coconut oil and dark chocolate, and I can eat the *kitten* out of all of them. Whether they're vegan or not, it's still all about the calories.3 -
SophieeBrook wrote: »Its all about the calories and knowing you body. Im vegan and I realised that I cant eat carbs like pasta and rice at night. I enjoy them at lunch and then I eat something light for dinner.
Maybe you are overdoing the pasta and rice and eating more calories then you should.
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marblessed wrote: »I have been a vegan for 4 years and those time are when I gain weight. People fail to say vegan diet to make you full you need to get carbs because vegetable can't make you full. So some one like myself with low metabolism speed retains those carbs. So I switch to vegetarian which is a bit better. That's my two cents for today..
Here's my $.02...
I'm not vegan, but my preferred way of eating is vegetarian about 3x per week...this includes a lot of lentils and beans and potatoes and quinoa and pasta, etc...as well as obviously vegetables and fruits and I do eat dairy and eggs on veg days.
I have zero issue maintaining my weight eating that way, but I struggle losing weight eating that way due in large part to the fact that many of the things that are staples of that way of eating are calorie dense so I have to cut my typical portions and fill them with something less calorie dense...in my case, I eat more lean protein...particularly fish to fill the void when I'm cutting weight.
I also like fish, so it's no biggie for me.
It's not the carbs themselves, it's that the staples tend to be calorie dense, and just eating smaller portions isn't particularly satisfying.0 -
this is some surreal *kitten*0
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jessiferrrb wrote: »this is some surreal *kitten*
Yeah, no baby feline!
I've been vegetarian for 43 years, from thin to fat to obese and back to thin again (and rarely hungry on the return trip from obese to thin). Never been vegan, but understand the way of eating enough to believe I could take the same journey on that WOE. Haven't had any trouble as a veg getting the typically-recommended .6-.8g protein per pound of goal weight, within quite low calories, without supplements (or fake meat). (Not a Religious Principal, I just don't like 'em.)
Now I've just learned that legumes, nuts and seeds aren't plants. Hmm. I mean, I guess they're not the body of the plant, but that's an . . . unusual way to use the term, I think.
SMH.
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