MFP doesn't work.
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3rdof7sisters wrote: »Oh dear, and here I thought it WAS working. I lost 21 pounds and have been doing this for 7 weeks. Am I doing it wrong?
Of course you're doing it wrong. If you were doing it the right way (like a small number of people in this thread), you'd either be maintaining or gaining weight. Are you using a food scale? [/sarcasm]3 -
boy Im tired from trying to help people today lol. seems like its a "dont give me advice Im right" kind of day3
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »boy Im tired from trying to help people today lol. seems like its a "dont give me advice Im right" kind of day
If I'm not accepting feedback I'm not learning and growing.
I've been here almost 8 months and I'm still learning!!
ETA -I for one appreciate the help.4 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »boy Im tired from trying to help people today lol. seems like its a "dont give me advice Im right" kind of day
If I'm not accepting feedback I'm not learning and growing.
I've been here almost 8 months and I'm still learning!!
ETA -I for one appreciate the help.
people like you are great,even being here almost 3 years I still sometimes need to learn new things and appreciate feedback as well.but some people just make you want to shake them silly lol2 -
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leanjogreen18 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »boy Im tired from trying to help people today lol. seems like its a "dont give me advice Im right" kind of day
If I'm not accepting feedback I'm not learning and growing.
I've been here almost 8 months and I'm still learning!!
ETA -I for one appreciate the help.
I'm several years into maintenance, and I've been on and off MFP for around 3 years, and I still learn new things from here all the time
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My opinions not wrong, it's mine, and it does work, for me.0
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On WW I lost 1.5 to 2 lbs per week. Never stayed the same or gained.
I am at 1200 calories per day
57 year old woman
180 lbs
Slightly active. Walk on treadmill 4x a week.
I am 61, and lost quite a bit of weight on WW, when I was around 47 or so. (Please ignore the flames that will follow.) I have kept it off until the last couple of years because I got lazy with journalling, so I am at it again.
I was probably using an earlier points system that you, but it was easy to follow (I never joined it, I just bought the books). My goal back then was 135 lbs. I never quite made it, but I made 136, and I was happy with that. But here's there thing. The points were worth about 50 calories each.
My point range, when I got down to near-goal, was the 18 - 23 point range. You do the math.
less than 150 pounds / 18-23
150 to 174 pounds / 20-25
175 to 199 pounds / 22-27
200 to 224 pounds / 24-29
225 to 249 pounds / 26-31
250 to 274 pounds / 28-33
275 to 299 pounds / 29-34
300 to 324 pounds / 30-35
325 to 349 pounds / 31-36
more than 350 pounds / 32-37
My last few weeks, here were my points...I was very good about staying in my range. As you can see, my points stayed in that range. Now, we had plenty of no-point foods then too - leafy greens, carrots, tomatoes, green beans, asparagus, onions, broccoli and radishes were all 0 point foods. So we could eat up as much as we wanted. I ate a LOT of green beans back then.
Total pts Pts avg To go! avg wt
147 21.00 7.2 143.09
163 23.29 8.4 143.23
134 19.14 7.2 143.03
153 21.86 8.6 143.43
136.5 19.50 5.6 142.37
126 18.00 4 140.17
117.5 16.79 3.8 139.40
148.5 21.21 3.4 139.34
156.5 22.36 4 139.69
110 15.71 1 138.86
121 17.29 2 136.91
The way the points were calculated, it encouraged higher fiber content, and the zero-point foods were all very healthy. I really had no problems at all using this plan - it worked great for me. But I can't use the MFP suggested calories - saying that I can lose weight on 1200 is simply not possible, for me. I know this because I have counted calories for so many years. So I use my own numbers. And I use the MFP site to track.
Many people fall on the extreme end of the ranges of caloric needs. I am on the low end, and I know it.
My point here is, you need to find what works for you. MFP can certainly help you meet your goal.0 -
Wow this thread has made my day. OP, hopefully now you will have the constructive information you will need to assess what needs to be tweaked in order for you to start seeing results.
1. Like many people say...Weigh your food accurately with a digital scale
2. Double check you are getting the correct entry on the database AND picking the correct quantity (check it against the packaging if in doubt)
3. Ensure you are counting oils, condiments and the like to ensure you are not missing calories.
3. Scales are not a great indicator of weight loss. your weight will fluctuate throughout the day and the accuracy of your scales may change if you move them around. Make sure you weigh at the same time of day, make sure your scales are in the same place. Basically go for consistency when weighing.
4. Measurements. In addition to scales, throw in some measurements too. I measure waist, stomach, chest and incidental measurements like how loose my wedding ring is for example.
Lastly, I think you should give any new regime at least 12 weeks. You need to give yourself a good chance and ensure you are using the tools correctly. This app is an absolute gem, that is why you have generated so much opinion and passion from the MFP user base.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »On WW I lost 1.5 to 2 lbs per week. Never stayed the same or gained.
I am at 1200 calories per day
57 year old woman
180 lbs
Slightly active. Walk on treadmill 4x a week.
I haven't all the replies but this made me lol why change what's working ? If it's money you know the plan you can do it without paying now.
Calories are strict weigh solids on scales measure liquids in jugs
Log everything you eat and drink
Eat enough
Why are you in 1200 calories way too low if your honesty eating drinking only 1200 you'd lose weight
Thing is if your not losing but lost on we your not logging everything honestly
Everything needs logging sauces fruit veg etc etc
the plans change often,the points change often. ww never stays the same so its hard but she could probably find someone she knows doing it and they can help her out with what is X amount of points and go from there.
The ww business is just that introducing new plans every January to make more money
If it's working fur her why change that's what I'm wondering ?
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »FreyasRebirth wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Also...be careful on ONLY counting Calories! Good weight loss, you need to increase the amount of Protein that they say. I try to get 1 g of protein for EVERY pound of body weight.
i could be wrong on the numbers slightly.. but isnt it .85g to 1g of protein for every pound of LEAN muscle mass you have? not weight in total
Human Nutrition course book, current edition (as I'm enrolled in the class right now), gives 1.7 grams per kg as the absolute maximum "recommended" for athletes in the building muscle phase. Non-athletes have an RDA of 0.8 grams per kilo. 136 lb non-athlete me would get 49.5 grams, nowhere near 1 gram per pound. (Higher amounts "do not appear to be harmful" but not actually necessary, according to the textbook on the subject.)
but is that lean muscle or total body weight because i have always thought it was lean muscle
every site will give you something different. some will say lean body weight, some will say per body weight,another one said when you are losing weight 1g per lb of body weight and 1.7 or 1.8 when trying to build muscle.so I guess it varies. I did a macro calculator and to maintain muscle and lose fat it gives me 1g per lb of weight.
I have heard 0.8-1.2 g per pound of lean mass (which is not the same as lean muscle... muscle is always lean... lean mass includes water, bones and organs and such. Everything but fat).
But I digress. OP, MFP works if you work to make it work. Just like any reasonable weight loss program. I lost and kept my weight off using MFP since 2014. I think that's pretty good. I am gaining it back now, plus probably about 10 more... but I think it's understandable since I'm pregnant. I fully expect MFP will work JUST fine for me once baby comes and it's time to lose what I gained while growing a human.1 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »FreyasRebirth wrote: »Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Also...be careful on ONLY counting Calories! Good weight loss, you need to increase the amount of Protein that they say. I try to get 1 g of protein for EVERY pound of body weight.
i could be wrong on the numbers slightly.. but isnt it .85g to 1g of protein for every pound of LEAN muscle mass you have? not weight in total
Human Nutrition course book, current edition (as I'm enrolled in the class right now), gives 1.7 grams per kg as the absolute maximum "recommended" for athletes in the building muscle phase. Non-athletes have an RDA of 0.8 grams per kilo. 136 lb non-athlete me would get 49.5 grams, nowhere near 1 gram per pound. (Higher amounts "do not appear to be harmful" but not actually necessary, according to the textbook on the subject.)
but is that lean muscle or total body weight because i have always thought it was lean muscle
every site will give you something different. some will say lean body weight, some will say per body weight,another one said when you are losing weight 1g per lb of body weight and 1.7 or 1.8 when trying to build muscle.so I guess it varies. I did a macro calculator and to maintain muscle and lose fat it gives me 1g per lb of weight.
I have heard 0.8-1.2 g per pound of lean mass (which is not the same as lean muscle... muscle is always lean... lean mass includes water, bones and organs and such. Everything but fat).
But I digress. OP, MFP works if you work to make it work. Just like any reasonable weight loss program. I lost and kept my weight off using MFP since 2014. I think that's pretty good. I am gaining it back now, plus probably about 10 more... but I think it's understandable since I'm pregnant. I fully expect MFP will work JUST fine for me once baby comes and it's time to lose what I gained while growing a human.
I have heard so many different variables that its confusing lol. one site will say per lean mass,one will say per lb of bodyweight,another will say per kg of bodyweight,etc ,etc
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