Tonight I had the dumbest conversation with target staff
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CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Hope I didn't offend @elphie754, I honestly thought it was a typo. I've come across the term before and was familiar with it. I've never heard of a brother husband, but it's logical as a term for the male equivalent.
Absolutely not. I'd rather someone ask and answer their questions rather than have the assume and make the wrong assumptions.3 -
Shanel0916 wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »What the hell is a sister wife?
When a man has more than one wife.
Well, not more than one wife, as that would be illegal (in the US anyway).
I've been in trios, and would support legalizing marriage to more than one person, but I don't know where to draw the line. I'm definitely fine with three, but after that get hazy. And am not ok with the many many multiple wives like in the compound on Big Love.1 -
https://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/Transparency/Basics/ucm210073.htm this says they can sell past exp date.
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Sure enoughshe stopped at target on her way home for cat litter (apparently this is non-negotiable in the house lol). Guess what was back on the shelves....... I would have dumpednitnin the nearby garbage, but she left it so the secret shopper would be able to see it.5
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Sure enoughshe stopped at target on her way home for cat litter (apparently this is non-negotiable in the house lol). Guess what was back on the shelves....... I would have dumpednitnin the nearby garbage, but she left it so the secret shopper would be able to see it.
Give Target corporate another call to let them know. Just a suggestion.1 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »Sure enoughshe stopped at target on her way home for cat litter (apparently this is non-negotiable in the house lol). Guess what was back on the shelves....... I would have dumpednitnin the nearby garbage, but she left it so the secret shopper would be able to see it.
Give Target corporate another call to let them know. Just a suggestion.
I agree with this! Did your SO get some pictures? They are unbelievable!0 -
Sure enoughshe stopped at target on her way home for cat litter (apparently this is non-negotiable in the house lol). Guess what was back on the shelves....... I would have dumpednitnin the nearby garbage, but she left it so the secret shopper would be able to see it.
Wow. At least it's a secret shopper who's going to fill them in and not the health department.0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »Sure enoughshe stopped at target on her way home for cat litter (apparently this is non-negotiable in the house lol). Guess what was back on the shelves....... I would have dumpednitnin the nearby garbage, but she left it so the secret shopper would be able to see it.
Give Target corporate another call to let them know. Just a suggestion.
Might be a bit late-it's after 5 here, but can try.Alatariel75 wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »Sure enoughshe stopped at target on her way home for cat litter (apparently this is non-negotiable in the house lol). Guess what was back on the shelves....... I would have dumpednitnin the nearby garbage, but she left it so the secret shopper would be able to see it.
Give Target corporate another call to let them know. Just a suggestion.
I agree with this! Did your SO get some pictures? They are unbelievable!
She didnt, but she is still there so texted her to get some pictures.2 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Wait, was it frozen or refrigerated? If frozen, it's not dangerous (but almost certainly dried out and nasty after that length of time).
Freezing doesn't stop food from rotting/going bad - it just slows it down. The colder the temp, the longer it (generally) takes. But freezing won't stop the process - not unless you hit 0 K.
Tell that to the frozen baby mammoths!
Seriously, you're mistaken on this. Freezing to -18C (0F, which is the temperature of a home freezer) stops microbial activity and guarantees food safety indefinitely. What it doesn't stop is drying out and deteriorating due to enzyme activity.
So frozen food still deteriorates, but safely - it does not rot and it does not go bad. It just dries out and gets nasty, and possibly rancid in the case of fatty food - but rancidity is not dangerous, it just tastes bad.
If you don't believe me (and why would you? I'm just an Internet stranger) check out the USDA's word on the subject - https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/freezing-and-food-safety/CT_Index
I made the mistake of cooking and eating chicken that I thought was safe because it was frozen-never again. Not I labelmwhen it goes in the freezer.
Assuming the freezer was working properly, it must have already have been bad before it was frozen. Otherwise there was a fault with the freezer.
What I've quoted above is the science on the subject and USDA's official advice - and they are not cavalier when it comes to food safety, they are firmly towards to anal end of the spectrum.
What about Listeria? A la Blue Bell ice cream?
In the case of Blue Bell, the Listeria was present in the product before it was frozen. Freezing at proper temps will not kill off existing bacteria, but it does prevent them from multiplying.3 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Wait, was it frozen or refrigerated? If frozen, it's not dangerous (but almost certainly dried out and nasty after that length of time).
Freezing doesn't stop food from rotting/going bad - it just slows it down. The colder the temp, the longer it (generally) takes. But freezing won't stop the process - not unless you hit 0 K.
Tell that to the frozen baby mammoths!
Seriously, you're mistaken on this. Freezing to -18C (0F, which is the temperature of a home freezer) stops microbial activity and guarantees food safety indefinitely. What it doesn't stop is drying out and deteriorating due to enzyme activity.
So frozen food still deteriorates, but safely - it does not rot and it does not go bad. It just dries out and gets nasty, and possibly rancid in the case of fatty food - but rancidity is not dangerous, it just tastes bad.
If you don't believe me (and why would you? I'm just an Internet stranger) check out the USDA's word on the subject - https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/freezing-and-food-safety/CT_Index
I made the mistake of cooking and eating chicken that I thought was safe because it was frozen-never again. Not I labelmwhen it goes in the freezer.
Assuming the freezer was working properly, it must have already have been bad before it was frozen. Otherwise there was a fault with the freezer.
What I've quoted above is the science on the subject and USDA's official advice - and they are not cavalier when it comes to food safety, they are firmly towards to anal end of the spectrum.
What about Listeria? A la Blue Bell ice cream?
In the case of Blue Bell, the Listeria was present in the product before it was frozen. Freezing at proper temps will not kill off existing bacteria, but it does prevent them from multiplying.
This has always kind of scared me since I was a teen (contaminated food). I know I can't go around being afraid of all good because anything is possible to be contaminated, but I try to stay away from things that have had issues in the past/have been recalled in the past.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Shanel0916 wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »What the hell is a sister wife?
When a man has more than one wife.
Well, not more than one wife, as that would be illegal (in the US anyway).
I've been in trios, and would support legalizing marriage to more than one person, but I don't know where to draw the line. I'm definitely fine with three, but after that get hazy. And am not ok with the many many multiple wives like in the compound on Big Love.
I would draw the line at one. No freaking way.-1 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Shanel0916 wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »What the hell is a sister wife?
When a man has more than one wife.
Well, not more than one wife, as that would be illegal (in the US anyway).
I've been in trios, and would support legalizing marriage to more than one person, but I don't know where to draw the line. I'm definitely fine with three, but after that get hazy. And am not ok with the many many multiple wives like in the compound on Big Love.
I would draw the line at one. No freaking way.
I dont see the issue with more than one wife ,IF they are all consenting adults,when it comes to marrying off underage girls to perverted old men,Then NO. But I sure as heck couldnt share my hubby,to each their own though.0 -
Yes, to each their own. Let's move on, shall we? Ancient egg sandwiches are the topic.16
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Heh, this is my fault and can't be blamed on Target or any other retailer, but on the weekend I cleaned out my baking shelf and threw out a container of Gelatine that had expired in...
... wait for it...
2007.
I don't even know how it got there, I was living in another country in 2009, for goodness sake, and certainly didn't bring any ingredients home with me.4 -
After the Fort McMurray fire the local Wal-Mart has been charged for restocking the shelves authorities had identified as contaminated. No excuse.0
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Lol, if that were true, then why an expiration date? People are dumb.
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There are expiration dates on canned goods, but the food bank accepts them 18 months past.0 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Wait, was it frozen or refrigerated? If frozen, it's not dangerous (but almost certainly dried out and nasty after that length of time).
Freezing doesn't stop food from rotting/going bad - it just slows it down. The colder the temp, the longer it (generally) takes. But freezing won't stop the process - not unless you hit 0 K.
Tell that to the frozen baby mammoths!
Seriously, you're mistaken on this. Freezing to -18C (0F, which is the temperature of a home freezer) stops microbial activity and guarantees food safety indefinitely. What it doesn't stop is drying out and deteriorating due to enzyme activity.
So frozen food still deteriorates, but safely - it does not rot and it does not go bad. It just dries out and gets nasty, and possibly rancid in the case of fatty food - but rancidity is not dangerous, it just tastes bad.
If you don't believe me (and why would you? I'm just an Internet stranger) check out the USDA's word on the subject - https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/freezing-and-food-safety/CT_Index
I made the mistake of cooking and eating chicken that I thought was safe because it was frozen-never again. Not I labelmwhen it goes in the freezer.
Assuming the freezer was working properly, it must have already have been bad before it was frozen. Otherwise there was a fault with the freezer.
What I've quoted above is the science on the subject and USDA's official advice - and they are not cavalier when it comes to food safety, they are firmly towards to anal end of the spectrum.
What about Listeria? A la Blue Bell ice cream?
Listeria will not grow in the freezer, but it can grow in the refrigerator. Unfortunately, freezers don't always maintain temp due to opening and closing. And listeria doesn't die in the freezer.0 -
Elphie, I hope that mystery shopper (?) nails them! A year past expiry.... nope!Alatariel75 wrote: »Heh, this is my fault and can't be blamed on Target or any other retailer, but on the weekend I cleaned out my baking shelf and threw out a container of Gelatine that had expired in...
... wait for it...
2007.
I don't even know how it got there, I was living in another country in 2009, for goodness sake, and certainly didn't bring any ingredients home with me.
Mmmmgross. :laugh:
My husbands grandmother had a can of cheddar soup that expired in 1989 that she refused to throw out. That was fun.3 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »
And it affects you how exactly?
@elphie754 I'm glad you got a good response from the manufacturer and from Target Head Office. The stupidity of some people just never ceases to amaze me...2
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