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  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
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    cmtigger wrote: »
    My dad was a chiropractor. He's retired now and is so ashamed of what the profession has become that he doesn't tell people what he used to do. My cousin is a chiropractor and is into all of the woo bullshite and shares it on facebook and really irritates the crap out of me. Chiropractors have no business handing out nutritional advice.

    I have always felt that anywhere you go for something.. they should stick to that thing you are there for..

    Like the other day i went in to get my eyebrows waxed at a hair salon place here... and she proceeded to tell me how i needed a cream for my face to help my complexion.. uhh.. okay?? lol.. ill be 31, my skin is in great shape, ive yet to even get a wrinkle yet.. what exactly is wrong with my complexion in your opinion eyebrow wax lady? I almost found it kind of rude and became slightly irritated on the inside, i wasn't there for skin advice, just fix my damn eyebrows!!

    I think there is also this disturbing, fast growing trend of people believing what they're told and not critically analyzing the information or the source.

    Consider the threads that get started on here. A new poster starts a thread which says "I'm here to answer your questions and help you reach your goals!" and they get an influx of people saying "i'm in! Please tell me what I'm doing wrong!"

    Um, what? You have NO idea who this person is, what their qualifications are, whether they are worth their salt or some woo peddling keyboard warrior with no actual clue. But people just jump right on it. It boggles the mind.

    THAT... and that same type of person who would start a thread like that going around giving answers to other peoples boards about things that aren't even real.. and two things about that boggle my mind too... the thread could have 57 replies and 56 of those replies could all be the same answer and the OP will quote that ONE different response thats complete garbage and thank them and believe it... Or you constantly call out that persons answers that aren't real and they don't even respond back to you so you don't even know if they even came back to the thread.. its like they are so far stuck up in their own woo that even a map couldn't help them find their way back.

    I called someone out on that crap yesterday and i might as well of just been peeing in the wind.
    He just kept going from board to board talking and talking and besides all the talking he even talked himself up saying "Ive only done this for years, but what do i know!"..... well buddy, you would know a lot more if you just...stopped... talking...

    There was the person this morning who started posting a bunch of links from questionable websites that supported her "side."

    Is it just me or do others find DietDoctor and Authority Nutrition to be very questionable in the information tney give as they go against what we learn from more reliable sources like WHO?
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
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    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    cmtigger wrote: »
    My dad was a chiropractor. He's retired now and is so ashamed of what the profession has become that he doesn't tell people what he used to do. My cousin is a chiropractor and is into all of the woo bullshite and shares it on facebook and really irritates the crap out of me. Chiropractors have no business handing out nutritional advice.

    I have always felt that anywhere you go for something.. they should stick to that thing you are there for..

    Like the other day i went in to get my eyebrows waxed at a hair salon place here... and she proceeded to tell me how i needed a cream for my face to help my complexion.. uhh.. okay?? lol.. ill be 31, my skin is in great shape, ive yet to even get a wrinkle yet.. what exactly is wrong with my complexion in your opinion eyebrow wax lady? I almost found it kind of rude and became slightly irritated on the inside, i wasn't there for skin advice, just fix my damn eyebrows!!

    I think there is also this disturbing, fast growing trend of people believing what they're told and not critically analyzing the information or the source.

    Consider the threads that get started on here. A new poster starts a thread which says "I'm here to answer your questions and help you reach your goals!" and they get an influx of people saying "i'm in! Please tell me what I'm doing wrong!"

    Um, what? You have NO idea who this person is, what their qualifications are, whether they are worth their salt or some woo peddling keyboard warrior with no actual clue. But people just jump right on it. It boggles the mind.

    THAT... and that same type of person who would start a thread like that going around giving answers to other peoples boards about things that aren't even real.. and two things about that boggle my mind too... the thread could have 57 replies and 56 of those replies could all be the same answer and the OP will quote that ONE different response thats complete garbage and thank them and believe it... Or you constantly call out that persons answers that aren't real and they don't even respond back to you so you don't even know if they even came back to the thread.. its like they are so far stuck up in their own woo that even a map couldn't help them find their way back.

    I called someone out on that crap yesterday and i might as well of just been peeing in the wind.
    He just kept going from board to board talking and talking and besides all the talking he even talked himself up saying "Ive only done this for years, but what do i know!"..... well buddy, you would know a lot more if you just...stopped... talking...

    There was the person this morning who started posting a bunch of links from questionable websites that supported her "side."

    Is it just me or do others find DietDoctor and Authority Nutrition to be very questionable in the information tney give as they go against what we learn from more reliable sources like WHO?

    Not just you. This is why you will often see people recommending to look for funding sources and/or agendas from the websites where they are getting their information. In fact, websites in general aren't great. Pubmed, or if you have access to peer-reviewed journals are going to be better. So many sites use journal articles but with either extend the information beyond the parameters of the study to sensationalize and get more hits on their site, or misrepresent the findings in some way. Of course there is also bad science.
  • junodog1
    junodog1 Posts: 4,792 Member
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    bpetrosky wrote: »
    I had some oatmeal this morning, apples for a snack, and veggies from a bag for lunch. Will I die?

    You're already dead.

    This thread needs this recipe of Kim's Cravings that was posted via the MFP blog. I think it looks pretty good. I'm planning on making it and having some later.

    Blueberry Cheesecake Baked Oatmeal

    I made that and took it to the office. Big mistake taking it to the office as I barely got my serving before it was gone. It's quite tasty.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 9,964 Member
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    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I found out recently that chiropractors in Canada and Australia have to go to medical school and then specialise in chiropractor work. So they've been to the same medical school as doctors for the first 4 or 5 years and then the last couple years are a specialisation. My favourite chiropractor in Canada specialised in sports medicine and chiropractic.

    But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I can say that I've been to chiropractors in Canada and Australia and none of them have given me any nutritional advice other than a very general suggestion to eat lots of veggies and drink water ... the usual stuff any GP will tell you.

    Please refer to these links. Chiropractors in the US need to go thru a long medical training before they get their doctoral degree. If Medicare covers for chiropractic's visits, it must be proven to work. I can vouch for that.

    http://www.nbce.org/about/chiro_education/
    http://www.palmer.edu/about-us/chiropractic-schools-origins/

    From the first site

    "Training to become a chiropractor generally takes about seven to eight years of college (four undergraduate years followed by three to five at chiropractic college) and then a clinical internship."

    Chiropractic college is not medical school. You can do three to five years of post-graduate work in all kinds of things that are health-related without becoming a medical doctor. (Not that medical doctors know everything about every health-related subject, either.)

    The second site is just the website of a particular chiropractic college.


    As for Medicare coverage, the discussion here is about a chiropracter giving out nutritional advice. Medicare will not reimburse for a chiropracter's provision of nutritional advice.

    "Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance) covers manual manipulation of the spine if medically necessary to correct a subluxation when provided by a chiropractor or other qualified provider."

    "You pay all costs for other services or tests ordered by a chiropractor (including X-rays and massage therapy)."

    Source: https://www.medicare.gov/coverage/chiropractic-services.html


  • cmtigger
    cmtigger Posts: 1,450 Member
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    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    cmtigger wrote: »
    My dad was a chiropractor. He's retired now and is so ashamed of what the profession has become that he doesn't tell people what he used to do. My cousin is a chiropractor and is into all of the woo bullshite and shares it on facebook and really irritates the crap out of me. Chiropractors have no business handing out nutritional advice.

    I have always felt that anywhere you go for something.. they should stick to that thing you are there for..

    Like the other day i went in to get my eyebrows waxed at a hair salon place here... and she proceeded to tell me how i needed a cream for my face to help my complexion.. uhh.. okay?? lol.. ill be 31, my skin is in great shape, ive yet to even get a wrinkle yet.. what exactly is wrong with my complexion in your opinion eyebrow wax lady? I almost found it kind of rude and became slightly irritated on the inside, i wasn't there for skin advice, just fix my damn eyebrows!!

    I think there is also this disturbing, fast growing trend of people believing what they're told and not critically analyzing the information or the source.

    Consider the threads that get started on here. A new poster starts a thread which says "I'm here to answer your questions and help you reach your goals!" and they get an influx of people saying "i'm in! Please tell me what I'm doing wrong!"

    Um, what? You have NO idea who this person is, what their qualifications are, whether they are worth their salt or some woo peddling keyboard warrior with no actual clue. But people just jump right on it. It boggles the mind.

    THAT... and that same type of person who would start a thread like that going around giving answers to other peoples boards about things that aren't even real.. and two things about that boggle my mind too... the thread could have 57 replies and 56 of those replies could all be the same answer and the OP will quote that ONE different response thats complete garbage and thank them and believe it... Or you constantly call out that persons answers that aren't real and they don't even respond back to you so you don't even know if they even came back to the thread.. its like they are so far stuck up in their own woo that even a map couldn't help them find their way back.

    I called someone out on that crap yesterday and i might as well of just been peeing in the wind.
    He just kept going from board to board talking and talking and besides all the talking he even talked himself up saying "Ive only done this for years, but what do i know!"..... well buddy, you would know a lot more if you just...stopped... talking...

    There was the person this morning who started posting a bunch of links from questionable websites that supported her "side."

    Is it just me or do others find DietDoctor and Authority Nutrition to be very questionable in the information tney give as they go against what we learn from more reliable sources like WHO?

    This morning it was natural news and similar sites.
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
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    cmtigger wrote: »
    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    cmtigger wrote: »
    My dad was a chiropractor. He's retired now and is so ashamed of what the profession has become that he doesn't tell people what he used to do. My cousin is a chiropractor and is into all of the woo bullshite and shares it on facebook and really irritates the crap out of me. Chiropractors have no business handing out nutritional advice.

    I have always felt that anywhere you go for something.. they should stick to that thing you are there for..

    Like the other day i went in to get my eyebrows waxed at a hair salon place here... and she proceeded to tell me how i needed a cream for my face to help my complexion.. uhh.. okay?? lol.. ill be 31, my skin is in great shape, ive yet to even get a wrinkle yet.. what exactly is wrong with my complexion in your opinion eyebrow wax lady? I almost found it kind of rude and became slightly irritated on the inside, i wasn't there for skin advice, just fix my damn eyebrows!!

    I think there is also this disturbing, fast growing trend of people believing what they're told and not critically analyzing the information or the source.

    Consider the threads that get started on here. A new poster starts a thread which says "I'm here to answer your questions and help you reach your goals!" and they get an influx of people saying "i'm in! Please tell me what I'm doing wrong!"

    Um, what? You have NO idea who this person is, what their qualifications are, whether they are worth their salt or some woo peddling keyboard warrior with no actual clue. But people just jump right on it. It boggles the mind.

    THAT... and that same type of person who would start a thread like that going around giving answers to other peoples boards about things that aren't even real.. and two things about that boggle my mind too... the thread could have 57 replies and 56 of those replies could all be the same answer and the OP will quote that ONE different response thats complete garbage and thank them and believe it... Or you constantly call out that persons answers that aren't real and they don't even respond back to you so you don't even know if they even came back to the thread.. its like they are so far stuck up in their own woo that even a map couldn't help them find their way back.

    I called someone out on that crap yesterday and i might as well of just been peeing in the wind.
    He just kept going from board to board talking and talking and besides all the talking he even talked himself up saying "Ive only done this for years, but what do i know!"..... well buddy, you would know a lot more if you just...stopped... talking...

    There was the person this morning who started posting a bunch of links from questionable websites that supported her "side."

    Is it just me or do others find DietDoctor and Authority Nutrition to be very questionable in the information tney give as they go against what we learn from more reliable sources like WHO?

    This morning it was natural news and similar sites.

    Natural News is a wealth of information for those against vaccines. You can add mecola to that list too. He is a perfect example of a chiropractic woo who spouts crappola.
  • TonyB0588
    TonyB0588 Posts: 9,520 Member
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    bpetrosky wrote: »
    I had some oatmeal this morning, apples for a snack, and veggies from a bag for lunch. Will I die?

    All of us will die some day, but not specifically because of oatmeal, apples, or bagged veg. Most of the centenarians attribute their long life to a varied and balanced diet, and hard work.

    It is our modern day easy life and poor eating habits that shorten our days.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    cmtigger wrote: »
    My dad was a chiropractor. He's retired now and is so ashamed of what the profession has become that he doesn't tell people what he used to do. My cousin is a chiropractor and is into all of the woo bullshite and shares it on facebook and really irritates the crap out of me. Chiropractors have no business handing out nutritional advice.

    I have always felt that anywhere you go for something.. they should stick to that thing you are there for..

    Like the other day i went in to get my eyebrows waxed at a hair salon place here... and she proceeded to tell me how i needed a cream for my face to help my complexion.. uhh.. okay?? lol.. ill be 31, my skin is in great shape, ive yet to even get a wrinkle yet.. what exactly is wrong with my complexion in your opinion eyebrow wax lady? I almost found it kind of rude and became slightly irritated on the inside, i wasn't there for skin advice, just fix my damn eyebrows!!

    I think there is also this disturbing, fast growing trend of people believing what they're told and not critically analyzing the information or the source.

    Consider the threads that get started on here. A new poster starts a thread which says "I'm here to answer your questions and help you reach your goals!" and they get an influx of people saying "i'm in! Please tell me what I'm doing wrong!"

    Um, what? You have NO idea who this person is, what their qualifications are, whether they are worth their salt or some woo peddling keyboard warrior with no actual clue. But people just jump right on it. It boggles the mind.

    THAT... and that same type of person who would start a thread like that going around giving answers to other peoples boards about things that aren't even real.. and two things about that boggle my mind too... the thread could have 57 replies and 56 of those replies could all be the same answer and the OP will quote that ONE different response thats complete garbage and thank them and believe it... Or you constantly call out that persons answers that aren't real and they don't even respond back to you so you don't even know if they even came back to the thread.. its like they are so far stuck up in their own woo that even a map couldn't help them find their way back.

    I called someone out on that crap yesterday and i might as well of just been peeing in the wind.
    He just kept going from board to board talking and talking and besides all the talking he even talked himself up saying "Ive only done this for years, but what do i know!"..... well buddy, you would know a lot more if you just...stopped... talking...

    There was the person this morning who started posting a bunch of links from questionable websites that supported her "side."

    Is it just me or do others find DietDoctor and Authority Nutrition to be very questionable in the information tney give as they go against what we learn from more reliable sources like WHO?



    I've said many times: if it comes from authoritynutrition, the truth is probably the exact oppposite.
  • Theo166
    Theo166 Posts: 2,564 Member
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    I recently went to a chiropractor's lecture. He said he lost 40 pounds in 6 weeks. If we come to see him, he could help us. He said not to eat wheat, dairy and sugar. Do not eat bananas, pineapple and grapes. He acted like he has a diet that was his own. After I did research on him, he sells this product - Chiro something - you take a drop o two of some liquid every day and eat only 500 calories a day. What a joke. Oatmeal is great to eat!

    When someone is that full of BS, just a colonic hydro cleanse would drop 40lbs of weight.
  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
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    4 pounds - what? Are you mixing in bags of Cadbury Eggs?
  • Gisel2015
    Gisel2015 Posts: 4,136 Member
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    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I found out recently that chiropractors in Canada and Australia have to go to medical school and then specialise in chiropractor work. So they've been to the same medical school as doctors for the first 4 or 5 years and then the last couple years are a specialisation. My favourite chiropractor in Canada specialised in sports medicine and chiropractic.

    But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I can say that I've been to chiropractors in Canada and Australia and none of them have given me any nutritional advice other than a very general suggestion to eat lots of veggies and drink water ... the usual stuff any GP will tell you.

    Please refer to these links. Chiropractors in the US need to go thru a long medical training before they get their doctoral degree. If Medicare covers for chiropractic's visits, it must be proven to work. I can vouch for that.

    http://www.nbce.org/about/chiro_education/
    http://www.palmer.edu/about-us/chiropractic-schools-origins/

    From the first site

    "Training to become a chiropractor generally takes about seven to eight years of college (four undergraduate years followed by three to five at chiropractic college) and then a clinical internship."

    Chiropractic college is not medical school. You can do three to five years of post-graduate work in all kinds of things that are health-related without becoming a medical doctor. (Not that medical doctors know everything about every health-related subject, either.)

    The second site is just the website of a particular chiropractic college.


    As for Medicare coverage, the discussion here is about a chiropracter giving out nutritional advice. Medicare will not reimburse for a chiropracter's provision of nutritional advice.

    "Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance) covers manual manipulation of the spine if medically necessary to correct a subluxation when provided by a chiropractor or other qualified provider."

    "You pay all costs for other services or tests ordered by a chiropractor (including X-rays and massage therapy)."

    Source: https://www.medicare.gov/coverage/chiropractic-services.html


    My posting and link was only in reference to what @Machka9 wrote : 'But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that." meaning that in the US chiropractors didn't had the same medical training like in Canada and/or Australia. And also to some other poster saying that chiropractors were quack.

    Since I am on medicare I do know what kind of services (chiropractor, acupuncture, doctors and specialist in general, procedures, etc.), are covered and what is/are not. Not need to lecture about it.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I found out recently that chiropractors in Canada and Australia have to go to medical school and then specialise in chiropractor work. So they've been to the same medical school as doctors for the first 4 or 5 years and then the last couple years are a specialisation. My favourite chiropractor in Canada specialised in sports medicine and chiropractic.

    But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I can say that I've been to chiropractors in Canada and Australia and none of them have given me any nutritional advice other than a very general suggestion to eat lots of veggies and drink water ... the usual stuff any GP will tell you.

    Please refer to these links. Chiropractors in the US need to go thru a long medical training before they get their doctoral degree. If Medicare covers for chiropractic's visits, it must be proven to work. I can vouch for that.

    http://www.nbce.org/about/chiro_education/
    http://www.palmer.edu/about-us/chiropractic-schools-origins/

    From the first site

    "Training to become a chiropractor generally takes about seven to eight years of college (four undergraduate years followed by three to five at chiropractic college) and then a clinical internship."

    Chiropractic college is not medical school. You can do three to five years of post-graduate work in all kinds of things that are health-related without becoming a medical doctor. (Not that medical doctors know everything about every health-related subject, either.)

    The second site is just the website of a particular chiropractic college.


    As for Medicare coverage, the discussion here is about a chiropracter giving out nutritional advice. Medicare will not reimburse for a chiropracter's provision of nutritional advice.

    "Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance) covers manual manipulation of the spine if medically necessary to correct a subluxation when provided by a chiropractor or other qualified provider."

    "You pay all costs for other services or tests ordered by a chiropractor (including X-rays and massage therapy)."

    Source: https://www.medicare.gov/coverage/chiropractic-services.html


    My posting and link was only in reference to what @Machka9 wrote : 'But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that." meaning that in the US chiropractors didn't had the same medical training like in Canada and/or Australia. And also to some other poster saying that chiropractors were quack.

    Since I am on medicare I do know what kind of services (chiropractor, acupuncture, doctors and specialist in general, procedures, etc.), are covered and what is/are not. Not need to lecture about it.

    Your post left the impression that you believe Chiropractors are on par with MD's which they aren't so I understand the other poster trying to clear up the confusion. They are on par with Optometrists, Podiatrists, and Dentists which I am sure is what you meant, but your statement did not come across that way.
  • AnvilHead
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    In honor of this thread, I made overnight oats last night and had them for breakfast today. It reminded me that I haven't had them in a while. Yum.
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    I found out recently that chiropractors in Canada and Australia have to go to medical school and then specialise in chiropractor work. So they've been to the same medical school as doctors for the first 4 or 5 years and then the last couple years are a specialisation. My favourite chiropractor in Canada specialised in sports medicine and chiropractic.

    But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that.

    I don't know if that's true or not, but I can say that I've been to chiropractors in Canada and Australia and none of them have given me any nutritional advice other than a very general suggestion to eat lots of veggies and drink water ... the usual stuff any GP will tell you.

    Please refer to these links. Chiropractors in the US need to go thru a long medical training before they get their doctoral degree. If Medicare covers for chiropractic's visits, it must be proven to work. I can vouch for that.

    http://www.nbce.org/about/chiro_education/
    http://www.palmer.edu/about-us/chiropractic-schools-origins/

    From the first site

    "Training to become a chiropractor generally takes about seven to eight years of college (four undergraduate years followed by three to five at chiropractic college) and then a clinical internship."

    Chiropractic college is not medical school. You can do three to five years of post-graduate work in all kinds of things that are health-related without becoming a medical doctor. (Not that medical doctors know everything about every health-related subject, either.)

    The second site is just the website of a particular chiropractic college.


    As for Medicare coverage, the discussion here is about a chiropracter giving out nutritional advice. Medicare will not reimburse for a chiropracter's provision of nutritional advice.

    "Medicare Part B (Medical Insurance) covers manual manipulation of the spine if medically necessary to correct a subluxation when provided by a chiropractor or other qualified provider."

    "You pay all costs for other services or tests ordered by a chiropractor (including X-rays and massage therapy)."

    Source: https://www.medicare.gov/coverage/chiropractic-services.html


    My posting and link was only in reference to what @Machka9 wrote : 'But the chiropractors in the US don't go through a process like that." meaning that in the US chiropractors didn't had the same medical training like in Canada and/or Australia. And also to some other poster saying that chiropractors were quack.

    Since I am on medicare I do know what kind of services (chiropractor, acupuncture, doctors and specialist in general, procedures, etc.), are covered and what is/are not. Not need to lecture about it.

    Your post left the impression that you believe Chiropractors are on par with MD's which they aren't so I understand the other poster trying to clear up the confusion. They are on par with Optometrists, Podiatrists, and Dentists which I am sure is what you meant, but your statement did not come across that way.

    They aren't even on par ODs, DPMs, and DDSs. Those fields, while they may possibly have had some pseudoscientific leanings in their pasts, they are all scientific based practitioners. Whereas chiropractors are purely based on pseudoscientific, non-existent subluxations and vitalism. Yeah they may learn some science but it's basically lipstick on a pig.
  • Machka9
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  • SLLRunner
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    AnvilHead wrote: »
    In honor of this thread, I made overnight oats last night and had them for breakfast today. It reminded me that I haven't had them in a while. Yum.

    I cooked mine in the crockpot while I was at the gym this morning, and now I have oats for the entire week!! I'm sooooo happy!
  • brichards_
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    Natural oats, as in just plain oats without added sugar/salt are good for you. They contain protein and fiber and other things.