I ATE PIZZA AND ICE CREAM BED, WOKE UP LESS FAT
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That's the way to do it for me too. I'm good 6 days a week and I enjoy myself on one of my exercize days. Last one was filled with pork belly, tiramisu and a whole bottle of wine. And I feeeeeeeel goood.0
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I had a professor in college who did the experiment of 1200 calories a day eating only twinkies for two weeks and lost weight. Calories are calories. On the other hand, I saw photos of after surgery of a really skinny person and their insides had more fat than normal. That's why I firmly believe is not how much you eat but what you eat that determines good health. If I eat dairy at night I wake up weighing less. Great post.0
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It's truly a crazy phenomenon, isn't it? There's so much defiance from those that eat junk food and lose weight, that those of us that try to eat healthy (most of the time) are doing something 'wrong.' Yes, my thyroid is fine. Yes, I understand that calorie deficit is king, and I can get that eating cheeseburgers and pizza every day. But I'm trying to do more than just lose weight, and since I think it's important to be healthy (which includes being at a healthy weight, but is more than just tha), that's what I would advocate for others if they asked for my advice. If they choose to do it on a steady diet of McDonalds and Burger King, then great for them. I just can't recommend it with a good conscious - that's how I got fat, and I'm sure what contributed to my dad being obese, and my mom (not obese) having a heart attack and stroke before age 50.
Proof? Or simply baseless conjecture?
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You seriously need proof that a steady consumption of fast food and total crap eating is/was a contributing factor to my dad's obesity, or my mom's heart attack and stroke before age 50? I forgot about the Type II diabetes she was dx'd with while in the hospital after the stroke. Do you want me to get their doctor to write a note for you? There isn't a family history of obesity or heart attack and smoking/drinking isn't a factor for either of them.
There's a million studies that would tell you it's a logical assumption. Or you could just use common sense. I'm honestly not even sure what you're questioning.0 -
It's truly a crazy phenomenon, isn't it? There's so much defiance from those that eat junk food and lose weight, that those of us that try to eat healthy (most of the time) are doing something 'wrong.' Yes, my thyroid is fine. Yes, I understand that calorie deficit is king, and I can get that eating cheeseburgers and pizza every day. But I'm trying to do more than just lose weight, and since I think it's important to be healthy (which includes being at a healthy weight, but is more than just tha), that's what I would advocate for others if they asked for my advice. If they choose to do it on a steady diet of McDonalds and Burger King, then great for them. I just can't recommend it with a good conscious - that's how I got fat, and I'm sure what contributed to my dad being obese, and my mom (not obese) having a heart attack and stroke before age 50.
Proof? Or simply baseless conjecture?
You seriously need proof that a steady consumption of fast food and total crap eating is/was a contributing factor to my dad's obesity, or my mom's heart attack and stroke before age 50? I forgot about the Type II diabetes she was dx'd with while in the hospital after the stroke. Do you want me to get their doctor to write a note for you? There isn't a family history of obesity or heart attack and smoking/drinking isn't a factor for either of them.
There's a million studies that would tell you it's a logical assumption. Or you could just use common sense. I'm honestly not even sure what you're questioning.
I'm questioning the suggestion that it was fast food specifically and that an over consumption of home cooked food couldn't have also lead to obesity and health issues.
The question remains: Can you prove it was fast good, or was it merely over consumption? If you can find me a study that says that fast food itself, as part of a normal balanced diet, causes health issues and doesn't point to over consumption as the source of problems I'd be interested to see it.
So. Yeah. Seriously.0 -
Although it is good to eat in moderation, in order to become a healthier being, some foods are better for you than others. Many foods, such as baby carrots, have fat more vitamins and other good nutrients than ice cream, pizza, and burgers do - weight loss and becoming healthy isn't only about calories.0
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Although it is good to eat in moderation, in order to become a healthier being, some foods are better for you than others. Many foods, such as baby carrots, have fat more vitamins and other good nutrients than ice cream, pizza, and burgers do - weight loss and becoming healthy isn't only about calories.
But I already got all of my Vitamins and minerals in today, and I hear you don't get extra credit for getting more than your daily allotment (In fact I hear you just pee out the extra.)
Not to mention I had 400 calories left over after dinner. Am I supposed to eat 400 calories in baby carrots? Do you know how many baby carrots that would be? Over 1000 grams! 1000 grams of what is basically empty fluff, since I've already maxed out all of my 'good stuff' today! Or I could have a cup of ice cream.0 -
I'm questioning the suggestion that it was fast food specifically and that an over consumption of home cooked food couldn't have also lead to obesity and health issues.
The question remains: Can you prove it was fast good, or was it merely over consumption? If you can find me a study that says that fast food itself, as part of a normal balanced diet, causes health issues and doesn't point to over consumption as the source of problems I'd be interested to see it.
So. Yeah. Seriously.
Where did I say anything about them eating a normal balance diet?!? It wasn't possible for them to over consume home cooked food because they didn't cook much. It's sort of a logical conclusion for MY parents. YMMV.
I had Burger King for dinner. I'm not saying that you can't have fast food ever. I'm saying that it's a logical conclusion, based on how MY parents ate, that a steady intake of crap foods has been a contributing factor to my dad's obesity, and my mom's health problems. I didn't say it was the only factor. I acknowledged in my first post that you can lose weigh at a calorie deficit, but it isn't all about just dropping pounds, to ME personally. I'm a little confused as to how you can argue what I know about my own parents since you don't know anything about them. You seem to be confusing a calorie deficit with being healthy. They are not the same thing to me.
But here's the risk factors for heart disease that can't be controlled:
Male sex
Older age
Family history of heart disease
Post-menopausal
Race (African Americans, American Indians, and Mexican Americans are more likely to have heart disease than Caucasians)
Here's how many of those risk factors my mom had: 0
The rest of the risk factors are things that a person CAN control to some extent:
Smoking.
High LDL, or "bad" cholesterol and low HDL, or "good" cholesterol.
Uncontrolled hypertension (high blood pressure).
Physical inactivity.
Obesity (more than 20% over one's ideal body weight).
Uncontrolled diabetes.
High C-reactive protein.
Uncontrolled stress and anger.
And here's some of the ways you can reduce your risk of heart attack - as you can see, most of them have to do with eating a balanced diet, limiting saturated fats (quite high in most fast food), being at an ideal body weight, etc. My parents weren't eating salads with dressing on the side every day, clearly. Most people don't.
Improve cholesterol levels. The risk for heart disease increases as your total amount of cholesterol increases. In general, your total cholesterol goal should be less than 200 mg/dl; HDL, the good cholesterol, higher than 40 mg/dl in men and 50 mg/dl in women (and the higher the better); and LDL should be less than 130 mg/dl in healthy adults. For those with diabetes or multiple risk factors for heart disease, LDL goal should be less than 100 mg/dl (some experts recommend less than 70 mg/dl if you are very high risk). Interpretation and treatment of cholesterol values must be individualized, taking into account all of your risk factors for heart disease. A diet low in cholesterol and saturated and trans fat will help lower cholesterol levels and reduce your risk for heart disease. Regular exercise will also help lower "bad" cholesterol and raise "good" cholesterol. Medications are often needed to reach cholesterol goals.
Control high blood pressure. About 60 million people in the U.S. have hypertension, or high blood pressure, making it the most common heart disease risk factor. Nearly one in three adults has systolic blood pressure (the upper number) over 140, and/or diastolic blood pressure (the lower number) over 90, which is the definition of hypertension. Like cholesterol, blood pressure interpretation and treatment should be individualized, taking into account your entire risk profile. Control blood pressure through diet, exercise, weight management, and if needed, medications.
Control diabetes. If not properly controlled, diabetes can contribute to significant heart damage, including heart attacks and death. Control diabetes through a healthy diet, exercise, maintaining a healthy weight, and taking medications as prescribed by your doctor.
Get active. Many of us lead sedentary lives, exercising infrequently or not at all. People who don't exercise have higher rates of death and heart disease compared to people who perform even mild to moderate amounts of physical activity. Even leisure-time activities like gardening or walking can lower your risk of heart disease. Most people should exercise 30 minutes a day, at moderate intensity, on most days. More vigorous activities are associated with more benefits. Exercise should be aerobic, involving the large muscle groups. Aerobic activities include brisk walking, cycling, swimming, jumping rope, and jogging. If walking is your exercise of choice, use the pedometer goal of 10,000 steps a day. Consult your doctor before starting any exercise program.
Eat right . Eat a heart-healthy diet low in salt, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, and refined sugars. Try to increase your intake of foods rich in vitamins and other nutrients, especially antioxidants, which have been proven to lower your risk for heart disease. Also eat plant-based foods such as fruits and vegetables, nuts, and whole grains.
Achieve and maintain a healthy weight. Excess weight puts significant strain on your heart and worsens several other heart disease risk factors such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol and triglycerides. Research is showing that obesity itself increases heart disease risk. By eating right and exercising, you can lose weight and reduce your risk of heart disease.0 -
I'm questioning the suggestion that it was fast food specifically and that an over consumption of home cooked food couldn't have also lead to obesity and health issues.
The question remains: Can you prove it was fast good, or was it merely over consumption? If you can find me a study that says that fast food itself, as part of a normal balanced diet, causes health issues and doesn't point to over consumption as the source of problems I'd be interested to see it.
So. Yeah. Seriously.
Where did I say anything about them eating a normal balance diet?!? It wasn't possible for them to over consume home cooked food because they didn't cook much. It's sort of a logical conclusion for MY parents. YMMV.
I had Burger King for dinner. I'm not saying that you can't have fast food ever. I'm saying that it's a logical conclusion, based on how MY parents ate, that a steady intake of crap foods has been a contributing factor to my dad's obesity, and my mom's health problems. I didn't say it was the only factor. I acknowledged in my first post that you can lose weigh at a calorie deficit, but it isn't all about just dropping pounds, to ME personally. I'm a little confused as to how you can argue what I know about my own parents since you don't know anything about them. You seem to be confusing a calorie deficit with being healthy. They are not the same thing to me.
But here's the risk factors for heart disease that can't be controlled:
Male sex
Older age
Family history of heart disease
Post-menopausal
Race (African Americans, American Indians, and Mexican Americans are more likely to have heart disease than Caucasians)
Here's how many of those risk factors my mom had: 0
The rest of the risk factors are things that a person CAN control to some extent:
Smoking.
High LDL, or "bad" cholesterol and low HDL, or "good" cholesterol.
Uncontrolled hypertension (high blood pressure).
Physical inactivity.
Obesity (more than 20% over one's ideal body weight).
Uncontrolled diabetes.
High C-reactive protein.
Uncontrolled stress and anger.
And here's some of the ways you can reduce your risk of heart attack - as you can see, most of them have to do with eating a balanced diet, limiting saturated fats (quite high in most fast food), being at an ideal body weight, etc. My parents weren't eating salads with dressing on the side every day, clearly. Most people don't.
Improve cholesterol levels. The risk for heart disease increases as your total amount of cholesterol increases. In general, your total cholesterol goal should be less than 200 mg/dl; HDL, the good cholesterol, higher than 40 mg/dl in men and 50 mg/dl in women (and the higher the better); and LDL should be less than 130 mg/dl in healthy adults. For those with diabetes or multiple risk factors for heart disease, LDL goal should be less than 100 mg/dl (some experts recommend less than 70 mg/dl if you are very high risk). Interpretation and treatment of cholesterol values must be individualized, taking into account all of your risk factors for heart disease. A diet low in cholesterol and saturated and trans fat will help lower cholesterol levels and reduce your risk for heart disease. Regular exercise will also help lower "bad" cholesterol and raise "good" cholesterol. Medications are often needed to reach cholesterol goals.
Control high blood pressure. About 60 million people in the U.S. have hypertension, or high blood pressure, making it the most common heart disease risk factor. Nearly one in three adults has systolic blood pressure (the upper number) over 140, and/or diastolic blood pressure (the lower number) over 90, which is the definition of hypertension. Like cholesterol, blood pressure interpretation and treatment should be individualized, taking into account your entire risk profile. Control blood pressure through diet, exercise, weight management, and if needed, medications.
Control diabetes. If not properly controlled, diabetes can contribute to significant heart damage, including heart attacks and death. Control diabetes through a healthy diet, exercise, maintaining a healthy weight, and taking medications as prescribed by your doctor.
Get active. Many of us lead sedentary lives, exercising infrequently or not at all. People who don't exercise have higher rates of death and heart disease compared to people who perform even mild to moderate amounts of physical activity. Even leisure-time activities like gardening or walking can lower your risk of heart disease. Most people should exercise 30 minutes a day, at moderate intensity, on most days. More vigorous activities are associated with more benefits. Exercise should be aerobic, involving the large muscle groups. Aerobic activities include brisk walking, cycling, swimming, jumping rope, and jogging. If walking is your exercise of choice, use the pedometer goal of 10,000 steps a day. Consult your doctor before starting any exercise program.
Eat right . Eat a heart-healthy diet low in salt, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, and refined sugars. Try to increase your intake of foods rich in vitamins and other nutrients, especially antioxidants, which have been proven to lower your risk for heart disease. Also eat plant-based foods such as fruits and vegetables, nuts, and whole grains.
Achieve and maintain a healthy weight. Excess weight puts significant strain on your heart and worsens several other heart disease risk factors such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol and triglycerides. Research is showing that obesity itself increases heart disease risk. By eating right and exercising, you can lose weight and reduce your risk of heart disease.
I can hear the actual whoosh as you miss the point. You want to attribute your parents medical issues to fast food specifically when, in reality, it was over consumption. Fast food in neither inherently bad or unhealthy so you can't say 'fast food contributed to XYZ' when over consumption and an unbalanced diet was the issue.
Let's take the opposite stance for a moment: I was an obses teenager who was never allowed fast food. My mother cooked at home, usually from scratch, every night. And I ate all the things, and got to be 200+ pounds by 15. When I was in the Navy I ate fast food nearly every day and was healthy (all of my blood tests were optimal and my fitness level has never been better). Ergo Fast Food made me healthy. Makes sense, right?
And you don't know what I think regarding calories deficits and their relation to health, so you shouldn't make even more assumptions based off faulty knowledge.0 -
MFP: Eat all the crap you want in moderation, get thin, but never healthy.0
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The race card...
I'm questioning the suggestion that it was fast food specifically and that an over consumption of home cooked food couldn't have also lead to obesity and health issues.
The question remains: Can you prove it was fast good, or was it merely over consumption? If you can find me a study that says that fast food itself, as part of a normal balanced diet, causes health issues and doesn't point to over consumption as the source of problems I'd be interested to see it.
So. Yeah. Seriously.
Where did I say anything about them eating a normal balance diet?!? It wasn't possible for them to over consume home cooked food because they didn't cook much. It's sort of a logical conclusion for MY parents. YMMV.
I had Burger King for dinner. I'm not saying that you can't have fast food ever. I'm saying that it's a logical conclusion, based on how MY parents ate, that a steady intake of crap foods has been a contributing factor to my dad's obesity, and my mom's health problems. I didn't say it was the only factor. I acknowledged in my first post that you can lose weigh at a calorie deficit, but it isn't all about just dropping pounds, to ME personally. I'm a little confused as to how you can argue what I know about my own parents since you don't know anything about them. You seem to be confusing a calorie deficit with being healthy. They are not the same thing to me.
But here's the risk factors for heart disease that can't be controlled:
Male sex
Older age
Family history of heart disease
Post-menopausal
Race (African Americans, American Indians, and Mexican Americans are more likely to have heart disease than Caucasians)
Here's how many of those risk factors my mom had: 0
The rest of the risk factors are things that a person CAN control to some extent:
Smoking.
High LDL, or "bad" cholesterol and low HDL, or "good" cholesterol.
Uncontrolled hypertension (high blood pressure).
Physical inactivity.
Obesity (more than 20% over one's ideal body weight).
Uncontrolled diabetes.
High C-reactive protein.
Uncontrolled stress and anger.
And here's some of the ways you can reduce your risk of heart attack - as you can see, most of them have to do with eating a balanced diet, limiting saturated fats (quite high in most fast food), being at an ideal body weight, etc. My parents weren't eating salads with dressing on the side every day, clearly. Most people don't.
Improve cholesterol levels. The risk for heart disease increases as your total amount of cholesterol increases. In general, your total cholesterol goal should be less than 200 mg/dl; HDL, the good cholesterol, higher than 40 mg/dl in men and 50 mg/dl in women (and the higher the better); and LDL should be less than 130 mg/dl in healthy adults. For those with diabetes or multiple risk factors for heart disease, LDL goal should be less than 100 mg/dl (some experts recommend less than 70 mg/dl if you are very high risk). Interpretation and treatment of cholesterol values must be individualized, taking into account all of your risk factors for heart disease. A diet low in cholesterol and saturated and trans fat will help lower cholesterol levels and reduce your risk for heart disease. Regular exercise will also help lower "bad" cholesterol and raise "good" cholesterol. Medications are often needed to reach cholesterol goals.
Control high blood pressure. About 60 million people in the U.S. have hypertension, or high blood pressure, making it the most common heart disease risk factor. Nearly one in three adults has systolic blood pressure (the upper number) over 140, and/or diastolic blood pressure (the lower number) over 90, which is the definition of hypertension. Like cholesterol, blood pressure interpretation and treatment should be individualized, taking into account your entire risk profile. Control blood pressure through diet, exercise, weight management, and if needed, medications.
Control diabetes. If not properly controlled, diabetes can contribute to significant heart damage, including heart attacks and death. Control diabetes through a healthy diet, exercise, maintaining a healthy weight, and taking medications as prescribed by your doctor.
Get active. Many of us lead sedentary lives, exercising infrequently or not at all. People who don't exercise have higher rates of death and heart disease compared to people who perform even mild to moderate amounts of physical activity. Even leisure-time activities like gardening or walking can lower your risk of heart disease. Most people should exercise 30 minutes a day, at moderate intensity, on most days. More vigorous activities are associated with more benefits. Exercise should be aerobic, involving the large muscle groups. Aerobic activities include brisk walking, cycling, swimming, jumping rope, and jogging. If walking is your exercise of choice, use the pedometer goal of 10,000 steps a day. Consult your doctor before starting any exercise program.
Eat right . Eat a heart-healthy diet low in salt, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, and refined sugars. Try to increase your intake of foods rich in vitamins and other nutrients, especially antioxidants, which have been proven to lower your risk for heart disease. Also eat plant-based foods such as fruits and vegetables, nuts, and whole grains.
Achieve and maintain a healthy weight. Excess weight puts significant strain on your heart and worsens several other heart disease risk factors such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol and triglycerides. Research is showing that obesity itself increases heart disease risk. By eating right and exercising, you can lose weight and reduce your risk of heart disease.
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It's truly a crazy phenomenon, isn't it? There's so much defiance from those that eat junk food and lose weight, that those of us that try to eat healthy (most of the time) are doing something 'wrong.' Yes, my thyroid is fine. Yes, I understand that calorie deficit is king, and I can get that eating cheeseburgers and pizza every day. But I'm trying to do more than just lose weight, and since I think it's important to be healthy (which includes being at a healthy weight, but is more than just tha), that's what I would advocate for others if they asked for my advice. If they choose to do it on a steady diet of McDonalds and Burger King, then great for them. I just can't recommend it with a good conscious - that's how I got fat, and I'm sure what contributed to my dad being obese, and my mom (not obese) having a heart attack and stroke before age 50.
Proof? Or simply baseless conjecture?
You seriously need proof that a steady consumption of fast food and total crap eating is/was a contributing factor to my dad's obesity, or my mom's heart attack and stroke before age 50? I forgot about the Type II diabetes she was dx'd with while in the hospital after the stroke. Do you want me to get their doctor to write a note for you? There isn't a family history of obesity or heart attack and smoking/drinking isn't a factor for either of them.
There's a million studies that would tell you it's a logical assumption. Or you could just use common sense. I'm honestly not even sure what you're questioning.
don't need a million. could you provide just one? one study that says fast food, in and off itself causes diabetes and heart attacks? even when eaten within calorie limits? and somehow causes those maladies moreso than overconsumption of home cooked food?0 -
MFP: Eat all the crap you want in moderation, get thin, but never healthy.
define healthy. is it quantifiable? is it something that will show up in my labs? or is something mystical that you'll claimed killed me before my time even if i live to be 90?0 -
MFP: Eat all the crap you want in moderation, get thin, but never healthy.
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...to learn how my healthy blood markers are somehow unhealthy because so many of my calories come from "fast food".0 -
But here's the risk factors for heart disease that can't be controlled:
Male sex
Older age
Family history of heart disease
Post-menopausal
Race (African Americans, American Indians, and Mexican Americans are more likely to have heart disease than Caucasians)
Here's how many of those risk factors my mom had: 0
The rest of the risk factors are things that a person CAN control to some extent:
Smoking.
High LDL, or "bad" cholesterol and low HDL, or "good" cholesterol.
Uncontrolled hypertension (high blood pressure).
Physical inactivity.
Obesity (more than 20% over one's ideal body weight).
Uncontrolled diabetes.
High C-reactive protein.
Uncontrolled stress and anger.
What am I missing here? Your parents were 5 for 5 on the risk factors that can't be controlled. But when it comes to the ones that can be controlled, it seems like they were batting between 0 for 6 and 0 for 8 (did they smoke? how was their stress?). So all of those things they could have improved to mitigate their health risks were ignored, but Big Macs were *obviously* the issue?
My grandparents suffered from diabetes as well, and they never ate fast food. They made home cooked meals 6 days a week. Alas, they were from the South, and home cooked meals by black people from Mississippi will kill you faster than any Quarter Pounder with Cheese ever will.
The problem is how much you eat, not where you eat.0 -
I ate pizza and went over on my goal by 204 calories, then weighed myself today and lost just over two and a half pounds. I was pretty shocked!0
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MFP: Eat all the crap you want in moderation, get thin, but never healthy.
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...to learn how my healthy blood markers are somehow unhealthy because so many of my calories come from "fast food".
Cause common sense.
Gosh, weren't you paying attention. 0 -
Sure you can eat junk food and lose weight. As your calories gets lower the volume of food you can eat from say mcdonalds is pretty small. Where as the volume of food you can get from whole non-processed foods is much larger, and more filling.
Also why eat all those chemicals? There are nearly 30+ ingredients in a mc donalds bun. Bread generally has 5 ingredients if you eat real bread. Not to mention sodium. Sodium is nasty.
But I do love mc donalds and eat it every once in a while. I am just at such low calories at the moment that junk food is not an option volume wise.0 -
Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.0
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Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
What? For me it doesn't matter what time I eat, I always get up the next morning. <insertpuzzlednotsureifseriousgifhere>0 -
Sure you can eat junk food and lose weight. As your calories gets lower the volume of food you can eat from say mcdonalds is pretty small. Where as the volume of food you can get from whole non-processed foods is much larger, and more filling.
Also why eat all those chemicals? There are nearly 30+ ingredients in a mc donalds bun. Bread generally has 5 ingredients if you eat real bread. Not to mention sodium. Sodium is nasty.
But I do love mc donalds and eat it every once in a while. I am just at such low calories at the moment that junk food is not an option volume wise.
...Why would my calories get lower? They're increasing as I lose weight. I'm up to 1925 now, started at 1650. So much more room for FOOD!0 -
Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
ummm...you realize the food you eat had actual weight before you ate it, and once you put that weight in your body, the weight of your body now weighs the amount of the food until it's digested and used as fuel or expelled from your body, right? like, if I drink 2 liter of diet coke and then weigh myself right after, i'm going to weigh more. we're on the same page here, right?0 -
Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
ummm...you realize the food you eat had actual weight before you ate it, and once you put that weight in your body, the weight of your body now weighs the amount of the food until it's digested and used as fuel or expelled from your body, right? like, if I drink 2 liter of diet coke and then weigh myself right after, i'm going to weigh more. we're on the same page here, right?
Do you think I'm an idiot? I was referring to being down on the scale the next morning as the OP mentioned.0 -
Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
ummm...you realize the food you eat had actual weight before you ate it, and once you put that weight in your body, the weight of your body now weighs the amount of the food until it's digested and used as fuel or expelled from your body, right? like, if I drink 2 liter of diet coke and then weigh myself right after, i'm going to weigh more. we're on the same page here, right?
Do you think I'm an idiot? I was referring to being down on the scale the next morning as the OP mentioned.
Ah...Wait.
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Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
ummm...you realize the food you eat had actual weight before you ate it, and once you put that weight in your body, the weight of your body now weighs the amount of the food until it's digested and used as fuel or expelled from your body, right? like, if I drink 2 liter of diet coke and then weigh myself right after, i'm going to weigh more. we're on the same page here, right?
Do you think I'm an idiot? I was referring to being down on the scale the next morning as the OP mentioned.
Ah...Wait.
Ah...wait.
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Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
ummm...you realize the food you eat had actual weight before you ate it, and once you put that weight in your body, the weight of your body now weighs the amount of the food until it's digested and used as fuel or expelled from your body, right? like, if I drink 2 liter of diet coke and then weigh myself right after, i'm going to weigh more. we're on the same page here, right?
Do you think I'm an idiot? I was referring to being down on the scale the next morning as the OP mentioned.
Ah...Wait.
Ah...wait.
Makes statement about eating before bed and waking up weighing more. Is offered logical reasoning. Gets pissy, and assumes was being insulted. Demands to know if they come across as an idiot. I cautioned against answering that question (as there is no proper answer).
Yes. I could see where I come off as the moron. :huh:0 -
Sure you can eat junk food and lose weight. As your calories gets lower the volume of food you can eat from say mcdonalds is pretty small. Where as the volume of food you can get from whole non-processed foods is much larger, and more filling.
Also why eat all those chemicals? There are nearly 30+ ingredients in a mc donalds bun. Bread generally has 5 ingredients if you eat real bread. Not to mention sodium. Sodium is nasty.
But I do love mc donalds and eat it every once in a while. I am just at such low calories at the moment that junk food is not an option volume wise.
...Why would my calories get lower? They're increasing as I lose weight. I'm up to 1925 now, started at 1650. So much more room for FOOD!
Hmm MFP suggests lower and lower calories for me as I lose weight. MFP wants me to eat around 1545 or so now. I started around 1900 calories 44 lbs ago.0 -
Sadly, I am not this lucky. If I eat within three hours or so before going to bed, I will inevitably be up the next morning.
ummm...you realize the food you eat had actual weight before you ate it, and once you put that weight in your body, the weight of your body now weighs the amount of the food until it's digested and used as fuel or expelled from your body, right? like, if I drink 2 liter of diet coke and then weigh myself right after, i'm going to weigh more. we're on the same page here, right?
Do you think I'm an idiot? I was referring to being down on the scale the next morning as the OP mentioned.
Ah...Wait.
Ah...wait.
Makes statement about eating before bed and waking up weighing more. Is offered logical reasoning. Gets pissy, and assumes was being insulted. Demands to know if they come across as an idiot. I cautioned against answering that question (as there is no proper answer).
Yes. I could see where I come off as the moron. :huh:
OP stated they ate in bed and weighed less the next morning. I stated that isn't the case for me. I'm thinking you're over-complicating a pretty simple statement. Nite nite.
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Sure you can eat junk food and lose weight. As your calories gets lower the volume of food you can eat from say mcdonalds is pretty small. Where as the volume of food you can get from whole non-processed foods is much larger, and more filling.
Also why eat all those chemicals? There are nearly 30+ ingredients in a mc donalds bun. Bread generally has 5 ingredients if you eat real bread. Not to mention sodium. Sodium is nasty.
But I do love mc donalds and eat it every once in a while. I am just at such low calories at the moment that junk food is not an option volume wise.
...Why would my calories get lower? They're increasing as I lose weight. I'm up to 1925 now, started at 1650. So much more room for FOOD!
Hmm MFP suggests lower and lower calories for me as I lose weight. MFP wants me to eat around 1545 or so now. I started around 1900 calories 44 lbs ago.
Because you're trying to lose the same amount you started with. I was at one pound a week, not it's more like half a pound. So rather than decreasing as I get smaller I'm allotted more calories. You should reevaluate your weekly goal at certain hallmarks.0 -
I eat this stuff in moderation too and I don't see any problem with it, I'm still continuing to lose at about 2 lbs a week. Granted, I'm not eating it everyday, but if I feel like having a burger, I'm having a burger, I just make sure that the rest of my day is somewhat healthy to balance it off. I think it really just comes down to finding a healthy balance. I've been a yo-yo dieter my whole life. I've tried every diet under the sun. South Beach, Atkins, Sonoma diet etc, ect. I lose the weight quick, and then I end up gaining it back because they are to hard to stick too long term. I tried keto, I lost 40lbs in about 3 or 4 months, it made me lethargic, constipated and gave me bad breath. Not to mention they say your carb cravings go away because your blood insulin level is stable, but mine didn't go away. I craved pasta and chocolate like never before, which is why I fell off the wagon and gained it all back, plus some. These diets just are not realistic to sustain long term, at least not for me anyway. Maybe for someone more disciplined. I think it's much better to for the most part eat healthy but not to deprive yourself constantly. If I want Ice cream I'm having it. I'm not going to sit there and eat a whole half gallon, I'll have one maybe two serving to satisfy my craving and then go back to eating mostly healthy foods to balance it off. My diet is not clean, I just try to stic to my macros and balance everything out. I feel like for the first time in my life this is something I can actually stick to long term because I'm not eliminating any foods. the funny thing is as overweight as I am, ( still have 94 lbs to lose) I got my blood work done about 5 months ago when I was at my heighest weight, totally prepared for the worst and unbelievably my triglycerides were normal, my good cholesterol was a little above normal, my bad cholesterol was under, my blood pressure was normal, no diabetes. My only issue was my vimin D levels were low, which I now take supplements for. Is there such thing as being fat and still healthy, I don't know, but it kind of seems that way. I know people who are skinny or at least at a normal weight, whose cholesterol levels are through the roof. A friend of mine is in a size 3 pants and her cholesterol is over 300! I'm much healthier then her, on paper at least, but she looks much healther than me. I'm not doing this to get healthy, because I basically already am, I'm doing this to look better, feel better about myself and improve my confidence, and if I want a burger, beer or a slice of pizza along the way ever once in a while you bet your sweet *kitten* I'm having it, just not in exess.0
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He said, defiantly.
That's great for you. Some people don't want to eat pizza and ice cream, because it doesn't work for them.
Does that fact somehow affect YOUR life?
It doesn't affect my life because I know the truth. Pizza, ice cream, iguana sticks, etc may not work for some people due to a medical condition such as diabetes. However, if you are free from disease (And most of you are. Your thyroid is fine.) then it's all about the caloric deficit.
I take offense to people peddling arugula salads and spirulina tonics as the way to "be healthy" and lose weight. Desperate people arrive on forums like this and are told that hamburgers are fattening and they should only eat pancakes once and a while , which sets them up for failure.
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. It's all about moderation. And when you cut out 'most' of the crap, you open your culinary world up to a huge variety of good clean fresh delicious food that there just isn't TIME to eat, when you exist on pizza and burgers.
If all you care about is calories and weight loss, then good for you. But some of us here because we give a *kitten* about nutrition, body fat and all the other indicators of good health. How's your skin? Energy levels? Can you belt out a really good session the morning after pizza and icecream?
Sorry but it's absurd to think there's some direct correlation between what you eat for dinner and what the scales show 8 hours later. Peddling THAT message sets the 'noobs' up for failure.0
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