How many grams of sugar a day can you have and still lose weight?
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Someone stated that sugar is carbs so since I now know where my sugar allotment is if say it says 12g of carbs do i add 12 g to sugar?0
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NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Someone stated that sugar is carbs so since I now know where my sugar allotment is if say it says 12g of carbs do i add 12 g to sugar?
No. When you enter a food into your diary it will say something like 15 g. carbs, 12 g sugars. You are getting 15 grams of total carbs, 12 of those come from sugar. The other 3 may be starches or it may be fiber. Sugar is included in the carbs, but it is also listed as a separate entity for the few who want to know.
Again, since you said you do not have a medical condition, ignore sugars and just look at the carbs.2 -
NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Only 1.02987 grams. Any more and you gain. And go bald.
Kidding. Calories are what matter with weight loss, not specific foods. Although no doubt thousands will disagree.
I have trouble getting in my calories a day because of sugar and because I'm watching my sodium. I try not to go over 1200 mg of sodium a day and if I watch what I eat, it's possible to stay under that amount. However at the end of the day I still have so many calories left. Like right now it says i have about 1000 left in my alloted calories.
Then stop tracking sugar.
Do you have a medical reason to stay so low in sodium?
I had high blood pressure. Since going down on sodium I haven't had that problem. Also it swells me up like a balloon if I eat more than 1200 mg or so. I have been tweaking my sodium intake and 1200 mg is what seems to be okay for me.0 -
NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Someone stated that sugar is carbs so since I now know where my sugar allotment is if say it says 12g of carbs do i add 12 g to sugar?
No. When you enter a food into your diary it will say something like 15 g. carbs, 12 g sugars. You are getting 15 grams of total carbs, 12 of those come from sugar. The other 3 may be starches or it may be fiber. Sugar is included in the carbs, but it is also listed as a separate entity for the few who want to know.
Again, since you said you do not have a medical condition, ignore sugars and just look at the carbs.
I hope you don't think I'm stupid but let's say the package says 16g total carbs and says 4g is sugar so would i add 12 g to my carbs and 4 to my sugar or would I just add the 16 to my carbs and nothing to my sugar. I just want to understand.0 -
Here is the nutrition label for Quaker oats.
Total carbohydrates are 27 g
of those:
4 g are fibers (2 grams each soluble and insoluble)
1 g is sugars
22 grams are starches
Does this make sense?
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Do you have a medical reason to stay super low with either? My doctor told me to try to stay under 2000 mg of sodium and I can easily go over in calories and still stay under in sodium.NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Only 1.02987 grams. Any more and you gain. And go bald.
Kidding. Calories are what matter with weight loss, not specific foods. Although no doubt thousands will disagree.
I have trouble getting in my calories a day because of sugar and because I'm watching my sodium. I try not to go over 1200 mg of sodium a day and if I watch what I eat, it's possible to stay under that amount. However at the end of the day I still have so many calories left. Like right now it says i have about 1000 left in my alloted calories.
You don't have to stop eating when you hit the top of any nutrient, only calories. If you have a medical restriction just eat food without it.
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NavajoGirl85 wrote: »NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Someone stated that sugar is carbs so since I now know where my sugar allotment is if say it says 12g of carbs do i add 12 g to sugar?
No. When you enter a food into your diary it will say something like 15 g. carbs, 12 g sugars. You are getting 15 grams of total carbs, 12 of those come from sugar. The other 3 may be starches or it may be fiber. Sugar is included in the carbs, but it is also listed as a separate entity for the few who want to know.
Again, since you said you do not have a medical condition, ignore sugars and just look at the carbs.
I hope you don't think I'm stupid but let's say the package says 16g total carbs and says 4g is sugar so would i add 12 g to my carbs and 4 to my sugar or would I just add the 16 to my carbs and nothing to my sugar. I just want to understand.
You don't add anything. If you pick the correct entry in the database it takes the information and puts it in your diary for you. You do not add the sugars and the carbs to get the total carbs. The carbs in your diary already is total carbs.
ETA: let MFP do the work for you.2 -
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NavajoGirl85 wrote: »NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Someone stated that sugar is carbs so since I now know where my sugar allotment is if say it says 12g of carbs do i add 12 g to sugar?
No. When you enter a food into your diary it will say something like 15 g. carbs, 12 g sugars. You are getting 15 grams of total carbs, 12 of those come from sugar. The other 3 may be starches or it may be fiber. Sugar is included in the carbs, but it is also listed as a separate entity for the few who want to know.
Again, since you said you do not have a medical condition, ignore sugars and just look at the carbs.
I hope you don't think I'm stupid but let's say the package says 16g total carbs and says 4g is sugar so would i add 12 g to my carbs and 4 to my sugar or would I just add the 16 to my carbs and nothing to my sugar. I just want to understand.
I don't understand what you're wanting to "add" to. The app automatically tracks carbs and sugar for you. It is giving you total carbs, then telling you that you have so many sugar, which is already part of the carbs. You don't need to track sugar. To avoid confusion, just look at total carbs.2 -
Sugar is a subset of carbs, so add 16 to carbs and 4 to sugar, if you are looking at a pie chart, the full circle is carbs and a wedge of that is sugar0
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NavajoGirl85 wrote: »I'
I'M SO BALD BECAUSE OF THIS!!Only 1.02987 grams. Any more and you gain. And go bald.
Kidding.
Also kidding.
It is about your calorie deficit. The only time you should worry about sugar/carbs or any other macro is if you're in serious athletics or there's a medical reason. I usually go over the MFP sugar limit if I have my coffee with creamer and 1 serving of ice cream. And yet, still have lost weight. And not hair.
I don't have the premium subscription to MFP so I don't get the sugar allotment.
I have a free account and have the option to track sugar (I've switched it out and track fiber instead though).
eta: see that you got it figured out, never mind me lol.1 -
Do you have a medical reason to stay super low with either? My doctor told me to try to stay under 2000 mg of sodium and I can easily go over in calories and still stay under in sodium.NavajoGirl85 wrote: »Only 1.02987 grams. Any more and you gain. And go bald.
Kidding. Calories are what matter with weight loss, not specific foods. Although no doubt thousands will disagree.
I have trouble getting in my calories a day because of sugar and because I'm watching my sodium. I try not to go over 1200 mg of sodium a day and if I watch what I eat, it's possible to stay under that amount. However at the end of the day I still have so many calories left. Like right now it says i have about 1000 left in my alloted calories.
You don't have to stop eating when you hit the top of any nutrient, only calories. If you have a medical restriction just eat food without it.
I just get super bloated when I eat anywhere over 1200 mg. I started low on sodium and have been tweaking it. I have gotten to 1200mg and it seems to be good. I will increase sodium and fiddle with it a little.0 -
NavajoGirl85 wrote: »NavajoGirl85 wrote: »NavajoGirl85 wrote: »I'm alloted 1700 calories a day. How many grams of sugar do you eat a day and still see weightloss? Usually I don't go over 20 grams of sugar a day and most days I don't get close to that. Just a curious question.
As many as you want. Sugar only affects your weight loss if you eat enough of it to no longer be in a deficit.
ETA: I don't track sugar, it is only a subcategory of carbs and total carbs is more important.
That is another thought of mine. How many carbs are too many? I never go over 100 carbs a day but even things like bananas have high carbs.
Do you have a medical reason to control carbs like diabetes, PCOS, etc?
ETA: I am T2Dm and I eat up to 170 grams of carbs per day.
No medical reason. I am just uneducated about carbs I guess.
You are making things far more difficult then they need to be.
First, if your calories that are eaten are less than those your body burns in a day from its normal functioning and exercise, you will lose fat.
Second, unless you have a medical reason to restrict sugar and sodium (BTW the recommended maximum for people with high blood pressure or in high risk groups is 1500mg a day not 1200, restricting below 1500 if you don't need to is completely unnecessary), there is really little reason to worry about them. At worse, eating higher sodium for a day than you usually do will result in water retention, it will have zero effect on fat loss except to mask that it is happening if you are in a calorie deficit (see first point).
Third, macro (Protein, Fat, Carb) amounts have no effect on fat loss outside of those that come from calorie control. Where they do come in is either in getting sufficient protein to help reduce muscle loss while losing fat, or in terms of helping you feel full longer where some people feel full longer on higher protein, higher fat others on higher carb with higher protein. That is more a matter of looking at a meal if you feel hungry soon after and comparing it to meals where you feel full longer and seeing what is different to find out what helps you. When you do, eating that sort of macro breakdown will help you stick with your calorie goal better, thus aiding you in sticking to what is really important for fat loss.
TLDR--Only worry about calories right now. Eat your calorie goal doing the best you can log what you eat and drink as accurately as you can.2 -
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »
I post this photo a lot... but... Seriously... i eat all the carbs.
You look amazing!0 -
Thank you all! You are all giving me some information that I honestly didn't know. I feel that my weightloss journey will be a great success with talking to all of you.4
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Thanks very much.
I only share it because i want people to visually see that all you need to do is count calories and nothing more to have success, no need to make it any more complicated then it needs to be!
We'll your photo inspires me. It also eases some restraints I've had on my numbers!0 -
It's funny. You always hear "sugar turns into fat in your system", which we know is BS.
Foods like York Peppermint Patties claim "fat free food" ..Which can be confusing.1 -
TheRambler wrote: »It's funny. You always hear "sugar turns into fat in your system", which we know is BS.
Foods like York Peppermint Patties claim "fat free food" ..Which can be confusing.
Yeah it doesn't help when there are so many different things you hear about nutrition. I will believe the people on here because they are living proof of what is okay and what is not okay for your body to consume.1 -
NavajoGirl85 wrote: »TheRambler wrote: »It's funny. You always hear "sugar turns into fat in your system", which we know is BS.
Foods like York Peppermint Patties claim "fat free food" ..Which can be confusing.
Yeah it doesn't help when there are so many different things you hear about nutrition. I will believe the people on here because they are living proof of what is okay and what is not okay for your body to consume.
There are good sources out there like Alan Aragon, Brad Schonenfeld (sp?), Lyle MacDonald, and others like them; but the main stream media, television shows, and all the health magazines are questionable sources as their goal is advertising money so they publish a lot of stuff that appeals to the idea that something more is needed than a calorie deficit. People like to complicate things, or be able to blame something other than the overall amount of food they eat.2 -
TheRambler wrote: »It's funny. You always hear "sugar turns into fat in your system", which we know is BS.
Foods like York Peppermint Patties claim "fat free food" ..Which can be confusing.
I have one in front of me right now and it says 70% less fat,but doesnt say fat free food.total fat is 2.4g and sat fat is 1.5 grams. not too bad for fat content but it has 31g of carbs,thats IF it weighs the 39g on the package.The only way anything is stored as fat is if you eat more than you burn.1 -
What I've seen of James Fell is pretty good. http://www.bodyforwife.com/the-most-important-thing-you-can-do-to-lose-weight/2
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It depends on how many calories you burn. You can consume an equivalent amount of sugar and not gain fat, but keep in mind that carbs retain water, so eating all of your calories in sugar might cause water weight gain.1
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I've lost 110 lbs by counting calories. I do not track sugar, I told MFP to shut up already about that, I went in and manually adjusted its recommended amount by a factor of 10 so that it would NEVER tell me I go over sugar, because the app giving me warnings about sugar really irritated me.
Today was a pretty typical day for me:
I ate four cookies. FOUR! Yes, my entire exercise budget, earned today by hiking through a really hilly state park, was used on glorious homemade chocolate chip cookies. Because foods with sugar are delicious.
*Note
My sodium is usually MUCH lower but we also went out for pizza tonight. I also noticed that I used the wrong entry for the dill pickle spears I ate. Apparently the one I selected logged a single kosher dill pickle spear at 900 mg sodium. I find that highly unlikely.4 -
I don't pay attention to sugar. I do make sure I get sufficient protein, fat and fibre though and try to eat foods without added sugar most of the time.
... That said, I'm always over the sugar target, with most coming from vegies, fruit and dairy. If I cared, I'd have to eat less fresh produce and that seems ridiculous to me.1 -
NavajoGirl85 wrote: »I'm alloted 1700 calories a day. How many grams of sugar do you eat a day and still see weightloss? Usually I don't go over 20 grams of sugar a day and most days I don't get close to that. Just a curious question.
Literally as many as you want, as long as you stay in a calorie deficit.
As whether eating a lot of sugar is nutritionally sound is another story.2 -
NavajoGirl85 wrote: »NavajoGirl85 wrote: »I'm alloted 1700 calories a day. How many grams of sugar do you eat a day and still see weightloss? Usually I don't go over 20 grams of sugar a day and most days I don't get close to that. Just a curious question.
As many as you want. Sugar only affects your weight loss if you eat enough of it to no longer be in a deficit.
ETA: I don't track sugar, it is only a subcategory of carbs and total carbs is more important.
That is another thought of mine. How many carbs are too many? I never go over 100 carbs a day but even things like bananas have high carbs.
Again....carb amount does not matter. Weight loss is all about the calorie deficit.2 -
You're again getting yourself all tangled up in knots majoring in the minors. Track your calories. Focus primarily on protein. Job done.
When it all become less confusing, you've started to lose and are feeling more confident in the process then you can start paying more attention to other things if you feel you need to. But really, unless you're an athlete or shooting for a specific fitness goal, none of it really matters. Get a wide and varied diet rich in protein and you're golden.2
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