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"Drink Shakeology because protein turns to fat"
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xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.27 -
BrunetteRunner87 wrote: »I have a lot of facebook friends who are friends with a beachbody coach and so her posts pop up in my newsfeed sometimes. Last night she posted this long post about how shakeology is better than protein shakes because only body builders need protein shakes, the rest of us will end up with too much protein and it will turn to fat. So drink shakeology instead because it's not all protein but all kinds of nutrition and is the healthiest meal you can have all day!
Don't let this shill ruin your feed with spam.6 -
NorthCascades wrote: »BrunetteRunner87 wrote: »I have a lot of facebook friends who are friends with a beachbody coach and so her posts pop up in my newsfeed sometimes. Last night she posted this long post about how shakeology is better than protein shakes because only body builders need protein shakes, the rest of us will end up with too much protein and it will turn to fat. So drink shakeology instead because it's not all protein but all kinds of nutrition and is the healthiest meal you can have all day!
Don't let this shill ruin your feed with spam.
@NorthCascades is absolutely right.1 -
well I can say I lost weight and so did many others here without using any kind of MLM products. I lost it eating in a deficit and moving more. I gained it by eating more than I burned and moving less. I know how I got fat and I figured out how to lose it. never used any weight loss supplements,shakes,pills,etc. I made and still make my own protein smoothies when I need a little extra protein or calories.
There were days I was lucky enough to get over 150g of protein and none of it turned to fat. and all it takes IS a calorie deficit. I have several health issues including a metabolic disorder and still lost weight by being in a deficit.11 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Alcohol has zero storage and no way to convert to triglycerides, so it will never "make you fat".
Sooo... hypothetically... if you were at a calorie surplus, but your macros were all from alcohol, you wouldn't gain? Not that you could survive long like that...
I had thought that alcohol "makes you fat" mostly the same way as anything else. If your maintenance is 1500 and you eat 1400 and drink 200 cals of booze, you'll gain. Now you may burn off those 200 alcohol calories first and then the next 1300 from food, but ultimately you're still 100 calories over.
Does it really matter which macro ends up getting stored? And if so, why? I guess that's my main question.3 -
I don't know but the idea that you can't get fat from alcohol doesn't make sense, with CICO. It's still calories. The sugar in it would be used as sugar from any food source, wouldn't it? What does a beer belly come from?3
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lucerorojo wrote: »I don't know but the idea that you can't get fat from alcohol doesn't make sense, with CICO. It's still calories. The sugar in it would be used as sugar from any food source, wouldn't it? What does a beer belly come from?
Pure alcohol does not contain sugar - hard liquor and the like. Wine and beer both contain sugar and other carbohydrates and that's where the beer belly comes from, not from the alcohol. Also, people tend to get the munchies when they drink and consume lots of extra calories along with the alcohol.6 -
clicketykeys wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Alcohol has zero storage and no way to convert to triglycerides, so it will never "make you fat".
Sooo... hypothetically... if you were at a calorie surplus, but your macros were all from alcohol, you wouldn't gain? Not that you could survive long like that...
I had thought that alcohol "makes you fat" mostly the same way as anything else. If your maintenance is 1500 and you eat 1400 and drink 200 cals of booze, you'll gain. Now you may burn off those 200 alcohol calories first and then the next 1300 from food, but ultimately you're still 100 calories over.
Does it really matter which macro ends up getting stored? And if so, why? I guess that's my main question.
That is correct. You'd most likely die well before reaching maintenance cals from alcohol, but yeah, that's how it works.
As for your question, it was well explained in the article that I linked. The general idea is that storage order for excess macros is fat, then carbohydrate, then protein. This is mostly due to the processes for converting each to storable triglyceride getting more energy intensive the further down you go. The body is, above all else, energy efficient.
Interestingly, we are seeing more and more than the conversion of protein to triglyceride requires a stupid amount of overfeeding to take place. Dr. Jose Antonio's research has been quite interesting in this area.4 -
lucerorojo wrote: »I don't know but the idea that you can't get fat from alcohol doesn't make sense, with CICO. It's still calories. The sugar in it would be used as sugar from any food source, wouldn't it? What does a beer belly come from?
Pure alcohol does not contain sugar - hard liquor and the like. Wine and beer both contain sugar and other carbohydrates and that's where the beer belly comes from, not from the alcohol. Also, people tend to get the munchies when they drink and consume lots of extra calories along with the alcohol.
Ok. Thanks. That explains it. In a mixed drink whatever is added could raise the calories and sugar to quite a bit (piña coladas, margaritas, cuba libres, etc.) Also many people say "alcohol" or "booze" and they mean wine, beer too.0 -
beer, wine, and cocktails also contain lots of calories from ingredients other than the ethanol.
Maybe the discussion would be clearer if instead of "alcohol" people would specify that they're talking about ethanol.0 -
Beer belly does not come from alcohol, or the sugars in alcohol. It's not a "beer" belly at all.
It comes from consuming more calories than you burn and having a genetic predisposition to store fat in you belly. Doesn't matter where the calories come from.7 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »Beer belly does not come from alcohol, or the sugars in alcohol. It's not a "beer" belly at all.
It comes from consuming more calories than you burn and having a genetic predisposition to store fat in you belly. Doesn't matter where the calories come from.
this is true. I used to drink a lot, and I never grew a "beer belly." I do however have sizable beer love handles. My body tends to store excess fat on the sides for some reason.3 -
well just want to say that my mother is an alcoholic and she lives off beer. you are lucky if she eats a small meal. she lost so much weight from not eating that she is maybe 75lbs. her normal weight is around 125. she has NO beer belly. she has no fat at all on her. shes been drinking like this the last few years but has been an alcoholic for the last 32 years. she hasnt died yet and I cant figure out how she is still surviving.3
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Wrong thread.1
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xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
All you need is a calorie deficit.11 -
xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
some of us have to work harder than others,but it is all about a calorie deficit. if you are having problems losing it could be to not using correct entries,not weighing your foods, having cheat meals that wipe out a deficit, overeating or not counting certain things(say a bite of cookie,or the oils you cook with,etc) or its possible you have a health issue which means your CICO may be different than what MFP gives you.like I said Im in perimenopause, have some health issues and have a metabolic disorder and lost weight just accurately counting calories.
I was off 2 months from exercise due to an injury and still lost weight. and trust me weight loss for me is HARD. when I should have been losing half a lb a week I was lucky to lose a tenth of a lb every 2 weeks or less. even with being accurate and working out a lot. there is also such thing as too much exercise which can put your body under more stress which raises cortisol levels which can affect weight loss. too little sleep is another factor. There are weeks I ate way under my net calories and didnt lose anything. most people would have lost a few lbs. not me. it takes time for people like me to lose the weight.13 -
xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
Uhhh...exercise helps with the calorie deficit. All you need is a calorie deficit...it's math and science. If I need 2800 calories to maintain my weight, and I eat less than that, I will lose weight.
Also, a lot of people like me are in maintenance...I exercise nearly everyday...not losing weight because I eat maintenance calories...that's how it works.10 -
xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
Yeah, I'm down 30 pounds myself with just a deficit. I've not been "unsuccessful" I've just stopped following all the woo-woo diet/exercise fads out there. Now I just eat fewer calories than I burn and voila, success.12 -
Seriously, the answer is don't allow people to advertise to you in your feeds.3
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NorthCascades wrote: »Seriously, the answer is don't allow people to advertise to you in your feeds.
so true. I had a friend get drawn into the Herbalife pyramid scheme and I had to delete him.3 -
xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
You do realize that you working out hard is just how you choose to create that calorie deficit right? The end answer is still, a calorie deficit is what you need to lose weight.
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NorthCascades wrote: »Seriously, the answer is don't allow people to advertise to you in your feeds.
so true. I had a friend get drawn into the Herbalife pyramid scheme and I had to delete him.
My wife's two closest friends (who happen to be the wives of my two closest friends) are now selling It Works. But who's the bad guy if I say so much as a single negative thing about it? That's right...me.4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »Seriously, the answer is don't allow people to advertise to you in your feeds.
so true. I had a friend get drawn into the Herbalife pyramid scheme and I had to delete him.
My wife's two closest friends (who happen to be the wives of my two closest friends) are now selling It Works. But who's the bad guy if I say so much as a single negative thing about it? That's right...me.
Just constantly eat Oreos in front of them and flex
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clicketykeys wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Alcohol has zero storage and no way to convert to triglycerides, so it will never "make you fat".
Sooo... hypothetically... if you were at a calorie surplus, but your macros were all from alcohol, you wouldn't gain? Not that you could survive long like that...
I had thought that alcohol "makes you fat" mostly the same way as anything else. If your maintenance is 1500 and you eat 1400 and drink 200 cals of booze, you'll gain. Now you may burn off those 200 alcohol calories first and then the next 1300 from food, but ultimately you're still 100 calories over.
Does it really matter which macro ends up getting stored? And if so, why? I guess that's my main question.
Alcohol isn't the direct cause of fat gain. It's because of oxidative priority: alcohol > protein > carb/glucose > fat and their inverse relationships of storage. Example: drink alcohol and any food you eat with it will get stored immediately until the alcohol is burned off.
The caveat to this graph is that since protein is constantly being broken down, eating an adequate amount of protein will actually put it behind everything else in terms of energy usage; i.e. the body doesn't like destroying organs, muscles, and tissue for energy if it doesn't have to. So eat adequate protein, and then choose whether you want your body to preferentially use carbs or fat for fuel.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5326984/4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »Seriously, the answer is don't allow people to advertise to you in your feeds.
so true. I had a friend get drawn into the Herbalife pyramid scheme and I had to delete him.
My wife's two closest friends (who happen to be the wives of my two closest friends) are now selling It Works. But who's the bad guy if I say so much as a single negative thing about it? That's right...me.
Just constantly eat Oreos in front of them and flex
You've just revolutionized my instagram feed. Lol6 -
Shakeology is loaded with sugar. Not something I'd ever use.2
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xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
All you need is a calorie deficit.
I'm sorry you feel that way.14 -
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
All you need is a calorie deficit.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Why? It sounds like you'd prefer NOT to work out as much as you do, so why would you be resistant to the idea that a calorie deficit is what works for weight loss?
How you achieve that deficit is up to you - seems like you create yours more by burning off extra than by consuming less, but if you'd like to take life a little easier you could experiment with doing it the other way around. Either way, it's the deficit that's causing the weight loss.
(Nutrition is another matter entirely.)8 -
xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
All you need is a calorie deficit.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
I'm sorry that you are upset that you feel you must workout 6 days a week to achieve deficit . You seem to be upset but what you don't realize as other have stated you don't need to create a deficit by exercise alone you can choose to eat less. In my case I eat less than my tdee (-700 a day) and workout 3-4 days so I don't feel like I hate going to gym. When I go it's relaxing to me not a chore.9 -
xmichaelyx wrote: »Shakeology is a scam, Beachbody is for the weak, and yes, excess calories are stored as fat even if they come from protein.
I'm confused, how is Beachbody for the weak? I've lost 40lbs following different workout programs they have and I'm very far from weak. Enlighten me.
AH! We found the beachbody salesman! Welcome to the logic zone where all you need is a calorie deficit to lose 40 pounds! *queue twilight theme*
If all you needed was a calorie deficit I wouldn't be getting my butt up and working out as hard as I do six days a week. I'm not a coach, I'm not affiliated with them at all, I have not purchased a single shake or supplement. It was a simple question so if YOU have been unsuccessful do not play yourself and take that out on me with your attitude.
All you need is a calorie deficit.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
When you're all out of insight but you can't admit you're wrong, just make it personal
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